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Disciples of Ston and NUVOS offer counter proposal

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Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#1 - 2012-03-23 14:37:55 UTC
The Conditions set forth by the SSP are not acceptable for the following reason
1. Those we rescue and/liberate are free to choose where they go and shall not be forcibly repatriated anywhere. That is contrary to the principles of liberty
2. We cannot co-exist as a single because neither Edaine nor Kentt share DSTON principles of pacifism and total non-violence
3. The Placid region is not where the need for rescue ops is
4. This condition was acceptable


A Counter Proposa

The Disciples of Ston and NUVOS will agree to a period of silence to last 6 months in exchange for all agitated and irritated or annoyed parties transferring the care of 10 million slaves to the Disciples of Ston and/or NUVOS. Transfers will be conducted and confirmed in as many high security stations as necessary in the Khanid Kingdom, Amarr Empire and Ammatar Mandate. All hostilities will cease during the time of the transfers and thereafter. The Period of Silence will commence when the last transfer is made and no posts will be made on the IGS for 6 months. At the end of the six month period, DSTON agrees to have only one active thread on the IGS and NUVOS agrees to have only one active thread on the IGS. At the end of the 6 month period, Summit access will be renewed.

Imagine that Silent Paradise you seek for six whole months

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#2 - 2012-03-23 14:48:22 UTC
Ston Momaki wrote:
The Conditions set forth by the SSP are not acceptable for the following reason
1. Those we rescue and/liberate are free to choose where they go and shall not be forcibly repatriated anywhere. That is contrary to the principles of liberty
2. We cannot co-exist as a single because neither Edaine nor Kentt share DSTON principles of pacifism and total non-violence
3. The Placid region is not where the need for rescue ops is
4. This condition was acceptable


A Counter Proposa

The Disciples of Ston and NUVOS will agree to a period of silence to last 6 months in exchange for all agitated and irritated or annoyed parties transferring the care of 10 million slaves to the Disciples of Ston and/or NUVOS. Transfers will be conducted and confirmed in as many high security stations as necessary in the Khanid Kingdom, Amarr Empire and Ammatar Mandate. All hostilities will cease during the time of the transfers and thereafter. The Period of Silence will commence when the last transfer is made and no posts will be made on the IGS for 6 months. At the end of the six month period, DSTON agrees to have only one active thread on the IGS and NUVOS agrees to have only one active thread on the IGS. At the end of the 6 month period, Summit access will be renewed.

Imagine that Silent Paradise you seek for six whole months


As an irritated or annoyed party, I feel I have the right to tell you that these terms will get you no-where. You are requiring the party that is currently killing you to GIVE you 10,000,000 slaves. You have not done anything which requires them to even consider this, and in fact if for some insane reason they did stop their war with this condition, I would strongly consider asking the Foundations to take up where they have left off.

I have some comments to make on the other conditions, but as they are not addressed to me and others like me (irritated or annoyed), I will refrain.

However, do keep in mind that you have no applied enough force to the Seekers to make them stop killing you. Here is where your pacifism breaks down, Ston.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#3 - 2012-03-23 14:54:24 UTC
May I say that the Disciples of Ston are starting to get on my nerves for opening new threads on the IGS for every single thing they decide to do?
Is the next topic about what you had for dinner and the one after what was for dessert?

I for one am contemplating of dropping down to where you base from and see if I can "convince" you to reconsider your stance in this matter and do the smart thing.

Remain very silent for a long time.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#4 - 2012-03-23 14:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiberious Thessalonia
Just to point out that 10,000,000 slaves, at roughly 700 isk a piece on the market, is worth 7,000,000,000 ISK.

7 billion ISK will buy 3500 weeks of corp to corp warfare. 3500 weeks is 67 years, roughly.

You are not capable of causing them significant harm, so really they have no reason not to wage constant warfare against you, or let you continue your activities for a while and then kill you when it actually matters, IE when you have people on your ship.

Edit: Alternately, you could form into an alliance with NUVOS and force them to pay 50 million a week to maintain the war, but at that price they can still wage war on you for 2.67 years. And it will cost you a billion isk.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#5 - 2012-03-23 15:27:56 UTC
If they wanted to end the war but keep killing you, that much money would buy 1400 suicide destroyers on an expensively fit one (the math being more in your benefit. The 'best case scenario' as it were.

It would buy 87.5 suicide Tier 3 Battlecruisers, with the same conditions.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2012-03-23 15:54:47 UTC
It's always refreshing to see a new scam.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#7 - 2012-03-23 15:59:50 UTC
Now you're annoying me, Ston.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-23 18:46:52 UTC
Your offer is rejected. My original offer still stands.
Dilaro thagriin
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-24 01:35:26 UTC
that was not a counter proposal....

I cannot believe i am agreeing with Tiberious... but the things you demand are just that... demands.

you are in no position to make demands.
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-24 01:53:01 UTC
While completely un-involved with this war in any way... I do want to take the chance to say, I did say the Stonites where up to shady dealings.

This is New Eden, trusting that someone because they say they are innocent is generally a bad idea.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#11 - 2012-03-24 02:58:35 UTC
Stand. Up. And. Fight.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#12 - 2012-03-24 04:23:22 UTC
Its times where moments like this make me wish all the people who annoyed me would neatly gather in one star system where a super nova was suspect to happen. The only refreshing or good part of this way/forum posts/talk? is that everyone else finally joined the band wagon of shut-up-ston.

Long over due imho.

Given that people war deck mostly at random to generate money or sport I highly doubt anyone cares what your cause is Ston. This can be a depressing fact when you have a cause you yourself see to be noble but such is life. You can't expect every war to be holy and your can't call every criminal a heretic though I'm sure some try.

But I digress....

Even if said party War-decked you in an attempt to focus your attention more on flying and less on these forums spouting all the louder isn't going to stop them.

They are just going to find another way.

Frankly at this point all you doing is giving them more support, you less and more people are paging Concords office to have you forum rights revoked or worse you pilots licenses.

Normally I'd ask someone like you to quite while you ahead but in your case I've long past the point of that. Now I wish to painfully remove your tongue both literally and metaphorically as well as genetically so your new clones won't have one either.

I'm quite please you've generated so much hate for yourself that if I had the power to do the above I think no one would stop me.

Perhaps you should ponder on that and while doing so don't reply, or post a new thread or make any attempt to respond.

Ever.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.
ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2012-03-26 21:01:49 UTC
Ston Momaki wrote:
The Conditions set forth by the SSP are not acceptable for the following reason
1. Those we rescue and/liberate are free to choose where they go and shall not be forcibly repatriated anywhere. That is contrary to the principles of liberty
2. We cannot co-exist as a single because neither Edaine nor Kentt share DSTON principles of pacifism and total non-violence
3. The Placid region is not where the need for rescue ops is
4. This condition was acceptable


A Counter Proposa

The Disciples of Ston and NUVOS will agree to a period of silence to last 6 months in exchange for all agitated and irritated or annoyed parties transferring the care of 10 million slaves to the Disciples of Ston and/or NUVOS. Transfers will be conducted and confirmed in as many high security stations as necessary in the Khanid Kingdom, Amarr Empire and Ammatar Mandate. All hostilities will cease during the time of the transfers and thereafter. The Period of Silence will commence when the last transfer is made and no posts will be made on the IGS for 6 months. At the end of the six month period, DSTON agrees to have only one active thread on the IGS and NUVOS agrees to have only one active thread on the IGS. At the end of the 6 month period, Summit access will be renewed.

Imagine that Silent Paradise you seek for six whole months


You should not negotiate about something you do not own. I also urge you to have only a single thread running about the same topic.

Thread locked.

ISD Eshtir

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons

Interstellar Services Department