EVE General Discussion

From what I heard this was just an idea thrown out there with no timeframe presented & it sounds like it'll be a long time before implementation. There was the idea of a "trawler" mining fleet

They stated that it might be a possibility of having asteroids with moon goo in them when they introduce full rings around planets for ring mining. They did not specify that they would only be in asteroids around moons with goo. This is a bit far off right now.

moon goo from moons will still be something to fight over, might also be fights over the best rings in nullsec.

I like the idea of having to find the best belts, and having the deposits more spread out. I hate mining because it's boring. I only do it as a semi-passive income while I do other things with my main on a different screen.


Miners like me need to be weeded out, lol

If you never lived in Null then you better keep your mouths shut about such proposals.
The simple reason you cannot sneak in a Fleet to ninja-harvest the stuff is that when there is a fight going on in Null you cannot sneak in due to the lag. In enough Cases you cant load grid cause that game is so bugged.
Gee you cant even move a decent sized fleet through 0.0 without getting 80% TIDI on every gate.

Apart from that no rightminded FC would bring a helpless mining fleet into a system while there are fleet fights going on.
It would be equally silly to bring in Hulks while there are Drake, Hellcat or Cap Fleets fighting each other. They welp your Hulk fleet in 30 Seconds and what gain would you have from lets say 10 minutes of mining in that system?

See?

Do I even need to comment how stupid that idea with the rotating Moon Minerals is?
I think everyone understood what to think about that proposal, right?
Because everyone making a Proposals here actually runs a POS network themselfs, correct?

So if you have no Clue about Live in Null or don't run POS yourselfs please spare us your wisdom on the effects this will have in Nullsec. OK?

So maybe the rings are at moons or around planets that had those moons? I don't think it is going to be like current ore distribution where ABCs can be found anywhere so long as security is low enough. Instead it might be two things, low enough security AND regional/constellation based.

Do that, and smooth out build requirements across the various moon mins and it'll still create conflict, perhaps even more, and allow smaller raiding parties the opportunity to disrupt or even ninja the materials them selves.

Well - they were very unclear on the subject, but I assumed they'd add them to some nullsec systems whilst leaving the old POS-based system untouched.

In case that assumption is true, I think it's a good idea. Moon POSes are good, because as you said they're a catalyst for conflict. Except for Supercap building (which mostly serves fighting for moons and can be done in some rented backwater), there is not much reason to hold sov.

Pretty much anything else can be obtained from somewhere else with less risk (that might change with nerfs to mission loot and drone poo).

So currently, the only means to get the only thing of value in nullsec involves putting a POS in reinforced, wait for it to come out, put your own up and defend that.
For smaller entities that means as soon as it's a valuable moon, it will either belong to PL, Raiden., NC. or Goons which will either blob you with a couple of Supers or a bazillion people and tbh it should be like that - why should some small entity with a BS fleet be able to hold one of the most valuable ressources?


However, this is also a problem as it leads to 0.0 wastelands - the superpowers living there only log in after a Jabber-ping to defend a moon pos once in a while unless there's a major war going - and why should they? The moons provide the money they pretty much have a monopoly on and they couldn't care less if some small roaming gangs passes through as anything of real value is safe anyway, has massive EHP and a timer on it.

For the same reason, smaller entities have abslutely no reason to go there - there is nothing of value to be stolen and no fights to be had - so if ringmining doesn't once more involve a giant blob, it could be a great incentive to populate nullsec.

Personally, I wish they would impliment Ring Mining as a more advanced and lucurative form of regular mining... one that rewards active team mining participation and requires a modicum of skill to be sucessful at.

I would rather see Moon Goo moved to be another resource available through PI, or better yet see the PI system expanded to include moons, so that they could be fought over (or at least interdicted to various degrees) via DUST if fleet battles were impractical.

If you want DUST mercs (and PI) to be an important consideration for a Null Sec alliance, that would do it.