EVE General Discussion

Defiantly need some feed back, eye candy of course. A simple number of dead and vehicles destroyed would be nice. I suppose the simplest thing to do is put it up where we see dmg notifications now, but that is not terribly exciting, although will allow players to post it in their Bios easily enough for epeening. How much damage you did to this dust player or that I don't think matters so much.

Since over powering the weapons is a bad idea, overpowering the effects would be bad too. Don't want to have a nuke go off and it kill three guys out of 100. Then it looks like the game is trying too hard and drifts into cheesy.

As for more feed back ... I'm not sure how far you want to go with that, I can come up with a number of ideas that will consume all your bandwidth if you'd like, I am sure many can and will.

I gather that the idea long term is multiple orbital structures of some kind, one for each possible district on the ground, and space fights will not be taking place necessarily at the planet warp in position. It would be nice from a defensive point of view, and more strategic depth, if districts adjacent to the contested orbital area, could fire into that area of space, so that whatever ground defesnes there are, are not the only ones that can be brought to bear. This could be said for the fire comming from space as well.

This will allow a battle to consist of more than one part of a planet at a time, it will allow for larger Dust Corps to participate since the battle instances will likely not be supprting 500 v 500 battles any time soon. This way more of the dust players and all the eve players from any one alliance/corp can take part in one larger battle at the same time, raging across multiple districts and multiple grids.

If you look carefully at the video you'll see we are not actually at the planet warp in, but at a location closer to the target.

We are iterating on a number of solutions to achieve this.

An easy way to get around orbiting a planet to be on top of a district would to have districts line up with existing celestial objects around the planet (asteroid belts, customs offices, planet warpin, etc) so that if you wanted to bombard a specific district you would warp to a specific celestial. Of course, the districts should say which object they are closest to to make it easy.

If you don't want to do this, you could group together a bunch of districts in a specific area on the planet and have them become new warpable objects.

Planets spin in Eve. The grids do not spin with them.

I would really like to have a possibility of being able to assign fighters to help dusties as an air force and drones while were at it.
They could obviously be destroyed by ground forces once deployed of c.

A cheap solution would be to park somewhere and sling shot the strike to location. However i feel thats very un-science fictiony despite being an actual possibility in reality.

two warp-ins could handle the planet. and the further away from the equator the site is, the more angled the strike becomes in Dust to the point hills or large structures could block the shot? leading to different planning per area as the same thing wont always work.

Here's my 0.02 isk. In the time it took to write this some of it might have already been suggested :)

Target feedback:

Seeing the bombardment from the caller's point of view in the target window on the new UI would be awesome.
A more simple solution would be just a box that lists the damaged and destroyed targets. If nothing gets hit list the distance to the nearest hostile to give a hunch if it's just someone messing around or if the enemy moved out of range. Not nearly as exciting but gets the job done

Weapon effects:

The weapon types really need distinctive efffects. A laser vapourizes everything it hits, rails cough up a huge shockwave and a dust cloud, projectiles explode and missiles do their thing by slowly drifting into the area few seconds later but with bigger AoE or something. Fighters (and fighter bombers, maybe even drones) would be awesome too if they could be assigned to an area and the ground soldiers were able to point targets for them as long as they are assigned to the ground troops. Of course they should be destroyable

Shooting back to space:

Big stationary cannons or missile batteries on the surface. If it's unfeasible to place them on the maps, make it low-orbit defence platforms. Need a structure or a vehicle to scan the orbit for targets. Scanning should take some time and require the player scanning to hold the position for the duration. Make them captureable for more fun. Alternatively or additionally create a module usable on the EvE ships to point targets to shoot at. Ideally the damage for the weapons would be high enough to drive the ships in orbit off (or destroy them if they decide to stay) with maybe a doomsday cannon with a long cooldown as a planetary upgrade. Fighter (or drone) garrisons could be an option too (AI piloted, of course).

Other stuff:

Depending on the frequency the planet can be bombarded there might be a need for some additional defensive options. A bombardment shield vehicle that can absorb some fire coming from above. Of course it shouldn't stand up to a concentrated orbital fire and being vulnerable to ground attacks would make it an interesting option. Another way of preventing a bombardment could be with an area scrambler. It either blocks the signal entirely or redirects the fire to a random spot on the map. This option might need a signal strength indicator for the spaceship but opens up another option of adding signal amplifiers for dedicated bombardment ships. And lastly there's always an option for point defence cannons. Always on, defends a few kilometers of area near them but can be disabled by cutting off the ammunition supply or destroying the weapon itself. High chance of deflecting any incoming fire from orbit.

Interesting point as currently there is no physical object to bounce off of for a planet. Will there be a large bounding spheres around planets soon that make us "skip" across the atmosphere?

The idea behind the relative system is to be less stressful on the server at least.

Something that is always XYZ away from reference and stuck on this rotation/obit rate tied into the server clock is three entry lines in data base and they're static.

Moving a grid is where we start to have problems. This is where some of those phsyics come into play. While its possible to keep a grid stuck into a XYZ cordinate in releative to a reference and everything on this grid is hunkydory the server would probably flip a lid if two grids 'collided.'

This would mean having to reprogram site spawning to avoid any pernament grids.

You can also further reduce server stress by making spawned/used grids non orbital.

The list of problems however still go on like book marks and the sort.

Pernament Grid bookmarks would be easy. In a realtive system theyll be filed under that grid's inventory. Its the free floating grid bookmakrs that get collided with orbtiging pernament grids we have concerns over.