Ships & Modules

The info comes from fanfest. There was a load of new modules discussed in one of the presentation. The problem they're trying to solve isn't in the balance or any broken element. The problem is that things have stayed the same for too long and ship fittings have in some areas become too predictable. The purpose of these new modules and affects is to mix things up again and give people more choices when choosing what to fit. With these new mechanics CCP seems to be trying out a lot of different things, test them in the game in a limited fashion and see what works and what doesn't.

CCP Soundwave had an interview with Ten Ton Hammer where he stated the overall goal of shaking up stale fits. Having said that, batteries would have to have a third effect such as x% immunity to nuets or x% less draw from active modules to get me to consider them.

Quick Amarr has a useful PvP ship.


NERF THAT **** INTO THE GROUND.

IMO, Nos is the true counter to neuts. The problem with Nos is that it's too hard to fit, and possibly should drain a bit more too. Cut the CPU and PG of Nos by about 50%.

I guess Curse pilots are gonna have to fit cap batteries to reflect the reflected neuts...

Not sure I agree with this completely - maybe medium and large are a bit heavy on the PG/CPU but smalls are ok.

The new Assault Frigates are pretty much designed to always fit a nos. They all have one utility high slot, and the CPU and PG to fit one.

I do have to agree here.

As much as I love neuting the **** out of someone, it's frustrating having a blaster boat that fights best inside neut range and being forced to sacrifice a mid for a cap booster. Other than a Tornado or a Maelstrom, how many minmatar ships are there out there that do not include a neut as part of their standard fit? How many ships in general use that extra high slot (if they have one) for something other than a neut.

I'm not sold on the sounds of this proposal in terms of cap battery usage though, as they're generally less useful than a lot of other things I can think of for a mid slot, and too pg/cpu intensive. If the 5% chance to reflect somehow hits a neuting ship back, all it has to do is simply inject another booster. How many neuting ships do we know of that run without cap boosters?

Not really, as a 5% chance to turn someone's neuting around is MUCH worse than a 100% chance for me to just inject cap and keep going.

Edit...

Agreed again, I can think of a LOT of other things that need work before something like this.

I've found that most fights involving neuts didn't require them in the first place. The damage output in a 1v1 BC fight is high enough that neuts aren't likely to play a role unless they're active tanked or you overheat multiple neuts (Hurricane/Cyclone basically). It seems that neuts are mostly used against:
- Capitals: They're unlikely to fit batteries simply because of how much it gimps the cap recharge. Better to be neuted than to not have the cap you need in the first place.
- Frigs: They're unlikely to fit batteries simply because of how much fittings they require. Furthermore, they'll just be overwhelmed next cycle by cruiser/BC neuts while the cruiser/BC isn't going to be too negatively affected by the 'failures'.

Basically: the idea isn't well baked.

-Liang

ya, I'm not seeing any kind of need for this change. Maybe there was a reason that a module is not used. Because it's not needed.

If people were going around complaining about how these modules sucked or where not powerful enough, then there may be a reason to look at this.