Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Energy Absorption Relay (Or some either cool, sci-fi name)
Low slot. Damage received by your shields recharges capacitor according to some balanced ratio.

And, the armour counterpart:
Momentum Redirection Matrix (Or other)
Med slot. Damage received by armour increases max speed for a few seconds according to some balanced ratio.

And, for real men:
Structural Instability Vent (Or a much, much better name)
High slot. Damage received by hull increases weapon damage according to some balanced ratio for a few seconds.

Oh, it seams that the CCP talking about modules on the funfest just ran of the questions about AFK cloaking and Stuff!!! Probably that is what would be asked all the time by the comunity!!! Most of ppl do Want the end of AFK cloaking!!!

Who is AFK cloaking usualy have 2 acounts... 1 they play and have fun, the other he uses to prevent the ones who have 1 acount to have fun... this is unfair!!! Make Cloak hunting ships/modules!!!!

Also the local being used as intel, It could be a 1 Minute delay in it to show ships.... and some Sistems Upgrades to make it faster (up to real time) ... Guys, you must fix it as sooner as possible... dont let it pass trogh inferno unsolved please!!! this is a snowball!!!

(And inferno should melt all snowball problems!!!)

heyy CCP SoniClover..

great presentations btw! have done a few b4 and know battling nerves can be difficult, u did well bro

My main issue with Mods currently are the strange situation that most modules that fit on a Cap can also it on a frigate and generally they both have the same level of effect (obviously %age modules that take into account the ship its fitted on are relatively exempt from this)

this limits the use of Larger ships in a fleet for stronger more effective tactical opportunities as well as further including the risk reward mechanic ill give you an example

Gate Camp
an interceptor, assault frig and a sabre are guarding a gate with a carrier providing remote reps and assigning fighters. one of the ceptors and the sabre have a remote sensor booster mod to allow a boost to catch smaller ships trying to slip through
(the carrier is superfluous typically in this scenario

The remote sensor booster mods all work at the same level regardless of what ship theyre on. though theyre subject to stacking penalties of course
This means there is absolutely no reason for a Cap ship to use that module as there are much more effective mods it can use if in that scenario (cap regen, sebo for quicker locking to ships to provide remote rep
This situation in effect limits the use of both modules and ships in various situations. However providing ships with modules of varying sizes has allowed interesting and innovative combat setups that we've already seen in combat (heavy neut curses for example and the new tier 3 BC's)

so in reference to the situation above it can be augmented by allowing the Carrier to fit a capital remote sensor booster. this would provide a significantly increased bonus to scan resolution than small or medium versions of this on the interceptor. Of course playing with percentages would be required to get the balancing right on the new modules


So TL;DR...

Iterate on Modules first by getting the most use out of the used mechanics we have right now, by changing Ewar/prop jamming/assist mods into 4 new size groupings (Small/Medium/Large/Capital) and staggering the bonuses/effectiveness accordingly, whilst still keeping the stacking penalties

this would add a ton more tactical opportunities to both subcap and capital warfare, and greatly fuel the risk vs reward incentive

How about a new cloak, that is tied to sheild percentage, but allows for the break of target locks upon its cycle completion.

example.

Harmonized Cloak

X second cycle time, slightly higher cpu usage and drops a random sheild stat upon each use, cloak only activates after X amount of time has elapsed, but when it does, as long as the sheild is above ( at a "off the top of my head" amount say 60% ) upon the cycle concluding all locks are broken and the ship cloaks,

imagine a ship has been caught off guard, interceptors are racing towards it after locking it from a far distance, with a conventional cloak, as soon as that target lock is applied, your pretty much screwed,

however as you ships computer anylyses the incoming locks it slowly alters the sheild changing the frequency to break the enemys lock, allowing the ship to escape,

however this changes the stopping power of the sheild dropping a stat and potentially allowing more damage, and can only function if it has a certain amount of power left., (ie 60%)

if the enemy ships are too far out, or a ship is not being activley engaged it could allow ships to slip out from the net,

all other restrictions for cloaks would apply ie, 2500m decloak, no cloaks in pos sheilds etc

im not too sure about a movement penalty, during cloak, so thats something for you guys...

First of all Nova your such a thread hog!!

My kronos would love some of the following to utilize the utility slots

High slots mods either alter existing so they can use mids and high, or new high only version.
1) Target painter (its a laser too after all!)
2) Sensor booster (takes scripts)
3 ) Some ecms mods, but maybe much better than mid based ones? (your giving up a gun slot after all...)
4) Magazine extender, holds or doubles weapon ammo space currently fitted to ships high slot. sb's might have alot of love for this.. also slow reloading turret based weapons systems would maybe benefit over less time spent reloading
it might also speed up ammo switching speed, ie, swapping between close and long range ammo types.
(possible mid slot item also?)



5) Drone launcher
lets a non cap ship fire out extra drones.
3 sizes
small - + 5 lights 25m drone space
medium + 5 drones & 50m drone space (10 lights or 5 mediums)
large + 5 drones 100m drone space

requires same fitting (cpu & pg) as typically ship turret weapon of same size.
and also due to fragile nature of ecm and non weapon based drones cant fit ewar type drones.


6) Ship Tractor beam,
One that can pull in webb'd and pointed ships for some hugs and kisses

and that about rounds out what would be great to free up mids or allow a bit of flexablity between mids and highs some what

Droneboats, drones and modules, a closer look.


Since drone damage modules of some sort were announced by CCP at Fanfest, we can expect ships, using drones as their primary weaponsysten, for the first time.
Let me list the most used boats, from cruisers to battleships, which have a bonus for drone damge and hitpoints:
( I also include suggestions on fixing bonuses of those ships)

a) Gallente / Faction:

Vexor -> remove Hybrid bonus, add drone speed and optimal
Vexor navy Issue -> remove Hybrid bonus, add drone speed and optimal
Ishtar
Myrmidon -> add 25 mbit bandwidth, can use 4 heavies, keep the rep bonus
Dominix -> remove Hybrid bonus, add drone speed and optimal, remove one turret bay
Dominix Navy Issue -> remove Hybrid bonus, add drone speed and optimal

b) Pirate

Gila
Rattlesnake


A module, increasing damage and usability of drones, could look like this:

Drone Damage Enhancer II:

+22,5 % damage for light, medium, heavy and sentry drones
+10% increase of MWD speed for light, medium and heavy drones

There also should be a Faction version of it, just like the Omnidirectional Tracking Link has.
Do not increase the orbiting speed of drones, meaning the speed they maintain when they arrive at the target, because that would gimp the tracking and as a followup, the damage applied.


Here is an example of a Domi using said modules:

[Dominix, Drone Assault]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Enhancer II
Drone Damage Enhancer II
Drone Damage Enhancer II

Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
100MN Afterburner II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Heavy Drone Damage Augmentor I -> should be implemented
[empty rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x5
Ogre II x5


This fitting should get around 850 DPS from Drones with perfect skills. A real Drone platform, I would like to fly.


o/

Tactical Probe

Charge

Designed as solution for required fast relocation on battlefield, this probe is launched with extreme velocity from a standard Core Probe Launcher and will travel at 30,000 m/s in a direct line from your ship along your current path. As the fuelcache of the probe is very restrictive, it's accleration only lasts for 6 seconds.

Volume: 0.8m³ (Only one can be fitted into the launcher at a time)

Skillbonus: Drone Navigation increases velocity by 4,000 m/s per skill level.


Idea: Launch it, have a warpin at 180 - 280 km in front of you within a few seconds. Short duration, Probe explodes after 5 minutes, can not be retrieved. Make it, that everybody can warp to the probe and I really think, this concept can not be overpowered, under no circumstances.



Drone Bandwidth Jammer

Highslot Module

An Electronic Warfare Module which is designed to reduce the drone bandwidth of the target. This module emits very strong radio signals on the frequency on which drones usually communicate, thus scrambling broadcasts from the target ship to it's own drones. Comes in two sizes, standard and capital.

Idea: Reduce Bandwidth of drone ships. If the affected ship hasn't deployed drones yet, it will only be able to deploy drones as far as it's new, scrammed bandwidth allows him to do. If he already has drones deployed, some of the drones, which aren't receiving the bandwidth now, go into a 'JAMMED' status, like the now available statuses 'In Combat, Returning, Idle'. A jammed drone will fulfil the last order it was given to, after then, it will stay idle in space until bandwidth is restored or someone scoops it to cargo / dronebay (yeah, drone pirating, wooo).

The Capital version of the module would be able to jam even targets usually immune to all forms of electronic warfare, thus being able to bring EWAR onto Supercarriers. Very Capacitor intensive, very CPU greedy, maybe very long cycle time (30 sec, 1 min) and making the ship unable to jump or warp while active. Maybe.



Short Range Multispectral Scanner

Passive Medium Slot Module

This module is a state of the art scanner, able to detect even the tiniest bit of exhaust created by an object, be it engine trails, radio transmissions, or, and that is the real new totally cool stuff, even the (tachyons blablabla scientific explanation of what a cloaking device does and why it MIGHT be 'detected'). This module is passive, and enhances the directional scan of your ship in ranges up to 300 kilometeres from your current location. If there is a cloaked ship within the 300 km of you while you use the dscan, it will show up on the directional scan als 'Unknown' - 'Cloaked Object'. It will NOT allow you to decloak or lock a cloaked ship. It will only be an indicator to tell you, if you're being observed. And some very skilled pilots might actually be able to get the direction of the ship, gaining the oppotunity to try and decloak some silent observers.






That's it from me so far, maybe more ideas to be had.


More ideas to be had!


Dual Hardener

This modules are fresh out of the laboratory of the huge empire factions. There are only faction versions of it and they are only obtainable via the LP Stores. They are available for both, shield and armor and boost 2 resistances at a time. They come in many fashions and combine all resistances. There a modules for EM-Thermal, EM-Kinetic, EM-Explosive, Explosive-Thermal, Explosive-Kinetic and Kinetic-Thermal. They boost more than an Invul or EANM would do, but less than a regular Hardener would do. The Caldari and Amarr Versions provide a slightly better resistance boost than the Gallente and Minmatar, however, those are way easier to fit in terms of CPU usage and consume less capacitor.


Idea should be simpe to get ;)



New Rigs

New Rig category, 'Hull'. These rigs directly affect the hull of the ship.
Examples are:
Turret recustomization - Modifies an existing missile hardpoint into a turret hardpoint. Tech II version simply adds one turret hardpoint without a missile hardpoint needed.
Missile Bay recustomization - Modifies an existing turret hardpoint into a missile hardpoint. Tech II version simply adds one missile hardpoint without a turret hardpoint needed.
Defensive Capability Augmenter - Adds one Low slot.
Electronics Capability Augmenter - Adds one Medium slot.
Offensive Capability Augmenter - Adds one High slot.
Research of any of these BPOs might result in a Tech II BPC for a rig, which provides 2 slots. There can be: High and Low. Medium and Low. Low and Low. High and Medium. High and High. Medium and Medium.

All these rigs require a GOOD chunk of calibration, maybe 250 for Tech I and 350 for Tech II.

Recalibrator - This one actually uses one rig slot, but increases your calibration by 50 on Tech I and 100 on Tech II. Yeah, with the Tech II variant, you can actually fit TWO Tech II Damage Modifing Rigs.


Again, the idea should be simple. Especially interesting are the whole new fitting possibilities for a BIG chunk of ships, turning several Armor Tankers into potential shieldtankes - and vice versa.

This must be the best thread since TomB posted in 2003/2004/2005

I love you devs simply for this thread.[/b



Besides all the great ideas already posted here I have one question/thought I wondered about for years now ..
Back in the days when TomB was around the missiles system got revamped alot but what we ended up (status quo) afaik was a COMPROMISE
The response was something along the line of: We had to make missiles as they are cuz our engine (Destiny) can't handle them in any other way

So what is the status quo
Missiles hardly "behave" like missiles and are only useful on missiles ships with a gazillion missile launchers
They work very much like turrets and imo this is very sad
The old AOE effect was overpowered and caused high sec problems, remember cruise kestrel and torpedo blackbird [:lol:

While that HAD to be changed for obvious reasons I think it is sad with what we have been left with
The bombs reflect somehow how torpedoes "behaved" back in the days but are limited to bombers
What is it with all the 1-2 missile slots so many ships have ..
And we have a DPS counter for missiles [:|
I hate dumbed down things like that

The point is I believe you were FORCED to make missiles what they are ... working more like guns ... because of so many caldari PURE missile boats

So the ship that RUINED our chance to have meaningful missiles for everyone was the Raven and these days ofc the drake.[/b

I LOVE missiles don't get me wrong but it doesn't feel like I'm shooting missiles when I fly my raven.[/b

Lets think through the most easy solution
Give all ships( including raven, drake, cerb aso.) NONE, 1 or a maximum 2 to 3 missile slots
Moreover introduce missile slots for ships from 0 to 3 besides the maximum of 8 high slots.[/u

[u]Redo the pure missile boats with some guns and a bonus to said new missiles [b]but it wont work if they have only missiles !! that is the part which I fear people can't get away from, but exactly these ships hinder missiles to be meaningful


[b]NOW do the following: - raw draft
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give missiles a HUGE reload time

eg. standard = 40secs+ torpedo 2min+

REDUCE the maximum loaded ammo/missiles per launcher

to 1 for torpedo launcher (AOE)
to 2 for cruise missile launcher (AOE)
to 1 for heavy assault launcher (AOE)
to 2 for heavy missile launcher (AOE???)
to 2 for rapid light missile launcher
to 1 for light missile launcher
to 3 for rocket launcher

give each launcher a ROF of 0,5 sec

give them huge DMG, balance wise more missiles = higher chance to hit but less dmg

eg. rocket = 100 dmg+ standard missile = 500dmg+ torpedo = 5000dmg

delay the launch of oversized missiles against small sig radi targets by 0.1 sec per sig radius difference

eg. torpedo 450m explosion radius against frigate 40m = activation delay 41 sec
eg. heavy missile 125m explosion radius against frigate 40m = activation delay 8.5 sec

remove the dmg reduction FROM DIRECT HITS, only should work for the AOE dmg

and use the explosion velocity to determine if a missile hits = full dmg or doesnt hit = no dmg

(tricky part cuz DESTINY can't handle that easily atm but also MOST IMPORTANT PART

GIVE BACK AOE DMG for missiles, not for all though

direct hit = full dmg, but only AOE hit gets reduced by your current explosion velocity formula
AOE can hit yourself

Introduce a special modus/module where you can fire your AOE missiles to a NON target area manually

like bombs BUT let us use a manually targeting system like the movement in HOMEWORLD 1 x y and z axis
best example is the siege cannon in homeworld 1 or eg. simply the blizzard spell in Warcraft3/WOW to let you understand what I mean
in fleet fights you would shoot these AOE missiles into areas you manually define
will make missiles worth it in fleet fights because even if targets warp of missiles will detonate if you have chosen to shoot them manually
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bombers profit from above, besides that
BOMBS themself should have a way higher range and stop after their flight time and detonate only if a ship is in its range, Bombs disappear after eg. 3 min
Bombs launch mechanic is fun and fine but should yield more rewards therefor +++DMG imo

AND tada
defender missiles are worth it again [:o
remove FOF missile
but introduce a FOF missile module eg. named automatic guidance system, which uses up high slot and gives missiles +30% explosion radius (=bad)
This module lets you shoot your missiles like FOF missiles now.

give certain missile warheads effects eg. the faction ones just some ideas ..
EM missile -30% dmg but eg. 10% chance to reduce the next active shield booster cycle by -99%
EM missile -50% dmg but eg. 50% chance to reduce EM resistances by -30% for 20secs
Thermal missile -20% dmg but eg. 80% chance for +50% overheat dmg for target active overheated module
Kinetic missile -30% dmg but eg. 100% chance to slow the target for -10% for 10 seconds if shields are down below 10
Explosive missile -30% dmg = eg. 10% chance to reduce the next active armor rep cycle by -99%
Explosive missile -50% dmg but eg. 50% chance to reduce EXPLOSIVE resistances by -30% for 20 secs
.....

[b]The above isn't overpowered because every ship will have some missile slots and NONE not even caldari will have more than the max of 3 missile slots.[/b
[u][b]And again MISSILES should NOT be a DPS weapon but a delayed alpha, AOE weapon.[/u

and pls MOAR diversity in range speed, dmg aso aso aso ..


PS: I want to shoot that single torpedo at you at exactly the right moment to eg. break your passive shield tank rawrrr

Yes this will promote balance problems but if you never change anything we will have bazookas shooting tanks before we have meaningful missiles in space

1. Projected Sensor Strength Suppression

Comes as a race specific version and a weaker all race version (like ECM/ECCM)


Lowers Sensor Strength

+ Scripts



1. Make targets more susceptible to jamming
2. Hide you friends in large ships from being scanned down




2. Provide a counter for it : Sensor fortification

Protects 100% against Projected sensor strength suppression.