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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#1 - 2012-03-26 12:52:34 UTC
It seems that CCP has got into bed with Nvidia and some stuff that Nvidia are coming out with is rather mauth-watering. Quote from PCMAG:
Refering to the new 680...
Kepler-based GPUs push anti-aliasing beyond the common styles today (Multisample Anti-Aliasing, or MSAA, is the big one, though Nvidia also uses Coverage Sample Anti-Aliasing and AMD Morphological Anti-Aliasing) with a new flavor called Temporal Anti-Aliasing (or TXAA for short). According to Nvidia, TXAA is a new "film-style" technique that blends MSAA with Fast Approximate Anti-Aliasing (FXAA), where it analyzes all the pixels on the screen and smooths the ones it detects create an artificial edge. Because no game yet supports TXAA, we weren't able to test this, but Nvidia says it delivers the kind of image quality you'd get from 8x MSAA with the accompanying performance hit of only 2x MSAA.

So with this technology at their developmental fingertips, what will we be seeing (or missing) and when is that likely to appear?

Reason for asking - looking at changing GPU as current one is noisy and power-hungry

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-03-26 12:56:00 UTC
Lolnvidia

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2012-03-26 13:00:07 UTC
Mmm my old 386dx2 28MHz... playing Elite.

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#4 - 2012-03-26 13:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Klandi
T' Elk wrote:
Lolnvidia


Noteworthy quote from forum warrior ... NOT

before everyone comes in with ...hundreds of threads on same, why another - I want to know what CCP will be using to give us an increased space experience - it is not a slag-off against ATI


and /facepalm to Chribba - mate you NEED to upgrade

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Ender Karazaki
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-26 13:18:18 UTC
Klandi wrote:
T' Elk wrote:
Lolnvidia


Noteworthy quote from forum warrior ... NOT

before everyone comes in with ...hundreds of threads on same, why another - I want to know what CCP will be using to give us an increased space experience - it is not a slag-off against ATI


and /facepalm to Chribba - mate you NEED to upgrade


Nothing we havent seen at fanfest, anything else we say will be pure speculation. Besides, game companies tend to shy away from using cutting edge graphics technology given the user experience of games like Doom 3 and Crysis. Most people still can't play Crysis on max setting, although I enjoyed managed it. But I recognise I am in the minority and it's unrealistic to expect 200k + subscribers to be able to buy $4000 desktops. In my experience the average gamer buy something like a mid range desktop and slaps a something like a nvdia 560 or 550 on it. Most people think that overclocked and watercooled desktops is overkill.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-03-26 13:18:53 UTC
All of the newer Nvidia cards use a lot less power than their predecessors. I recently got a 560Ti upgrading from a 260 and the 560 uses 50 watts less power than the 260. It was a massive upgrade in video processing power for me and worth every penny.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-03-26 13:24:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
Klandi wrote:
It seems that CCP has got into bed with Nvidia and some stuff that Nvidia are coming out with is rather mauth-watering. Quote from PCMAG:
Refering to the new 680...
Kepler-based GPUs push anti-aliasing beyond the common styles today (Multisample Anti-Aliasing, or MSAA, is the big one, though Nvidia also uses Coverage Sample Anti-Aliasing and AMD Morphological Anti-Aliasing) with a new flavor called Temporal Anti-Aliasing (or TXAA for short). According to Nvidia, TXAA is a new "film-style" technique that blends MSAA with Fast Approximate Anti-Aliasing (FXAA), where it analyzes all the pixels on the screen and smooths the ones it detects create an artificial edge. Because no game yet supports TXAA, we weren't able to test this, but Nvidia says it delivers the kind of image quality you'd get from 8x MSAA with the accompanying performance hit of only 2x MSAA.

So with this technology at their developmental fingertips, what will we be seeing (or missing) and when is that likely to appear?

Reason for asking - looking at changing GPU as current one is noisy and power-hungry


Kepler is supposed to replace actual Fermi tech and if I remember the terms of some conference Kepler "should" be available next Autumn. Haven't checked latest infos but if you are expecting this new tech to replace an old card just wait a little bit.
Second generation should show up quite fast and those should be really interesting paired in SLI.

EDIT: infos I kept over time about this is that this last version of Fermi is around 45nano tech and that kepler should be around 40 when it comes out to quite quickly go under 35 but no one at that time was capable to predict how much we could go down since the tech possibilities were getting to their limits at the moment of the conference (2010/2011)
Then add new software techs and you are about to see video game cards and image take a high flight, the opportunities are exponential.
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#8 - 2012-03-26 13:27:44 UTC
Ender Karazaki wrote:
Klandi wrote:
T' Elk wrote:
Lolnvidia


Noteworthy quote from forum warrior ... NOT

before everyone comes in with ...hundreds of threads on same, why another - I want to know what CCP will be using to give us an increased space experience - it is not a slag-off against ATI


and /facepalm to Chribba - mate you NEED to upgrade


Nothing we havent seen at fanfest, anything else we say will be pure speculation. Besides, game companies tend to shy away from using cutting edge graphics technology given the user experience of games like Doom 3 and Crysis. Most people still can't play Crysis on max setting, although I enjoyed managed it. But I recognise I am in the minority and it's unrealistic to expect 200k + subscribers to be able to buy $4000 desktops. In my experience the average gamer buy something like a mid range desktop and slaps a something like a nvdia 560 or 550 on it. Most people think that overclocked and watercooled desktops is overkill.


Current mid-range hardware ($500 total) can play Crysis at max settings with decent frame rates.

Hopefully, some of the DX11 features can be incorporated into EVE, in particular the addition of tessellation and some lighting effects would add a new dimension to immersion.

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#9 - 2012-03-26 13:52:17 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:

Kepler is supposed to replace actual Fermi tech and if I remember the terms of some conference Kepler "should" be available next Autumn. Haven't checked latest infos but if you are expecting this new tech to replace an old card just wait a little bit.
Second generation should show up quite fast and those should be really interesting paired in SLI.

last version of Fermi is around 45nano tech and that kepler should be around 40 when it comes out to quite quickly go under 35


Info I have is that Kepler is out in the 680 and that die size is 28nm. That is what some of the reviews report

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
RaTTuS
BIG
#10 - 2012-03-26 13:56:01 UTC
Nvidia for games
ATi for openCL
rest dont matter

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#11 - 2012-03-27 10:33:33 UTC
Would like to get an answer from development on this thx

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking