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Who Suffers in War?
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Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#1 - 2012-03-25 13:39:36 UTC
History shows us that most wars are waged by the wealthy and powerful in order to preserve or expand their wealth and power. Sometimes it is the religiously powerful who act out the insecurity of their own doubt that make war to assuage their doubts. Who suffers in these wars?

The poor suffer. Seldom do the wealthy suffer. Usually they become wealthier through war. The poor, however suffer greatly at every level even to the ability to eat and drink to stay alive. Women and children suffer more than men. Crimes of war are often committed against women and children. Those of station and position seldom feel the real traumas of war. The factory owner grows in wealth while the slaves that labor in his factory suffer intensely. The Capsuleer Pilot does not feel the suffering of his crew or see the tears of his widow and orphaned children. The politician may pretend to hear the cries of the hungry among his constituency, but his stomach is full regardless.

Capsuleers thump their chests as they wage war because whatever they may say about the losses of war, they do not feel real suffering. They feel only the very least measure of discomfort. Even those who do not wish for the wars against them do not really suffer if they are a capsuleer.

Now there is a third group in war that also does not suffer; the bystander. The Capsuleer community is infamous for using war as entertainment. Watching war is great sport for the bystander. The bystander does not suffer.

Rarely is war necessary

If…during war… The wealthy suffered as much as the poor…the master suffered as much as the slave…man suffered as much as woman or child…politician suffered as much as proletariat…Capsuleer captain suffered as much as crew…bystander suffered something…then perhaps wars would be less frequent. Perhaps, perhaps not.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#2 - 2012-03-25 14:35:53 UTC
Who suffers in war? Apparently (and thanks to you), everyone who decides to read the IGS.
Fleet Warpsujarento
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-03-25 15:43:20 UTC
The people who suffer are the weak. They deserve to perish. If Gallente civilians on the surface of a Gallente planet cannot protect their village from a Caldari fleet's orbital bombardment then they have no right to live. It is the way of the universe.
Jev North
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-25 16:39:09 UTC
5 * 10 ^ n.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Simca Develon
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-03-25 22:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Simca Develon
Everyone suffers in war, in one way or another. The thing is that some wars are worth fighting. Something that you should perhaps realize.

Je suis le commencement de votre fin.

Le diable prend soin de son proper.
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-03-26 02:13:31 UTC
If everyone suffered equally in war, none of us would be here to discuss it at all. Don't be so quick to wish for some sort of universal equality of suffering. If it existed humanity never would have came into being, and if it did the first war that was ever fought would have been the last one because there would have been no one left after it. Oh sure you can take the optimistic, unrealistic, view that if everyone suffered the same in a war, then humanity would fight wars. But lets be honest, in that situation a single sociopath would still be all it would take to shatter that silly dream of a warless humanity.

In the war you are involved in I know who is suffering. Those you can't save due to the war, and any crew foolish enough to step on your vessels when you won't compromise your own ideals to defend their lives. But you go ahead and continue on bemoaning the fact that your words and actions sparked consequence, continue trying to pretend to be a helpless victim. I'll continue seeing you as nothing but a selfish and irresponsible capsuleer, like so many others, that clings to their own ideals even to the detriment of those who put their lives in your hands.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2012-03-26 12:48:40 UTC
Simca Develon wrote:
Everyone suffers in war, in one way or another. The thing is that some wars are worth fighting. Something that you should perhaps realize.


I would be curious to hear your opinion on the matter.
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#8 - 2012-03-26 13:33:39 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Who suffers in war? Apparently (and thanks to you), everyone who decides to read the IGS.


Now, here is a man who expresses understanding without actually possessing it. And with this comment I will cease the posting of new threads on this forum.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Simca Develon
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-26 13:44:06 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Simca Develon wrote:
Everyone suffers in war, in one way or another. The thing is that some wars are worth fighting. Something that you should perhaps realize.


I would be curious to hear your opinion on the matter.


Sure, just give me a yell if you see me active.

Je suis le commencement de votre fin.

Le diable prend soin de son proper.