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If you play a high sec game, be afraid, be very afraid

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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
#61 - 2012-03-26 09:29:23 UTC
Xearal wrote:
As nobody asked.. Your Stuffs, I can haz?

There is no stuffs to haz - ebil Soundwave took it all! Lol

Fear God and Thread Nought

Endeavour Starfleet
#62 - 2012-03-26 09:32:37 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
tl;dr - endeavor starfleet once joined some crappy nullsec renters because they're the only ones that would take in his equally worthless main before getting run back to highsec because it was full of quitters just like him who gave up at the first sign of adversity

lol full api key to rent space, where does he think of this ****?


I left renters because renters could care less about what happens to EVE. They will only whine ***** moan and quit after the fact never having once bothered to tell CCP. "This is broken"

People like you just don't get it. You view hisec as the great unwashed or the rebels. They wont be your fodder and they wont be your target (Or free victim) so what does that make them to you. "Worthless" Never mind that the fact that they did not quit during trial is why CCP has hundreds of employees working on EVE almost every day of the year. You can't stand the thought of someone saying no to Nullsec or wormhole dog crap being the goal of said player. Those who have experience in nullsec yet stay in high are now automatically "Worthless mains that can't get in the good ones" to folks like you Despite you knowing nothing about said person. The idea of nullsec pilot saying no to broken nullsec just doesn't click.

Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#63 - 2012-03-26 09:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Pheusia
At the moment, industrialists in sov 0.0 suffer under extreme disadvantages in virtually every aspect compared to those in hi-sec. Why shouldn't CCP level the playing field somewhat? Why should manufacturers in hi-sec get better quality station facilities, more station facilities, free CONCORD protection, free faction police protections, gate guns, station guns, multiple stations in the same system, invulnerable stations, etc etc etc, and then cry unfairness when CCP Soundwave proposes to rebalance this hideously distorted and unjust field of play?
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2012-03-26 09:35:47 UTC
Why would you play this game in the first place if your only goal is to steadily watch your wallet balance increase, how boring. Do you also watch the clock counting the minutes until you can go to bed?

Remember null players are often running both a micro and a macro risk by working in the space they do.

On a micro level they are risking the ship they are currently in as does everyone in space at all times, even in high sec although the real risk there is much lower generally.

On a macro level they are risking everything they have established in the space in which they live. If they start losing sov they lose access to stations, POSes burn all over and billions gets trapped in areas you can no longer realistically access. Wormholers take a similar risk though on a smaller scale as the logistics of attacking a wormhole corp can be tricky if you're unprepared. There is money to be made there as well but frankly those willing to put up hundreds of billions on both macro and micro risk levels deserve the highest payout, period.

I'm fine even with low sec becoming much more profitable, incursion or otherwise. Go out to Kador low sec on any given day. I had to go almost 20 jumps before I found a single POSed up Myrm, don't tell me doing your PvE out there is suicide because it's only suicide in your mind, this is NOT dangerous space by any stretch. Most of null is either empty or blue to you. Even when it's not blue, I've ninja ratted/plexed for days without ever docking and hauled back hundreds of millions in loot because there was simply no one else around. Use your map, a scout and your survival tactics and you'll be fine. Although I've not set foot in high sec for a very long time I approve of the changes.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2012-03-26 09:37:24 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
your leader lets you rat in your space? ours just yells at us to use Incursion alts because they're both more profitable and safer, then jump clone back to fight for space

truly the rewards of nullsec space vs incursions is balanced indeed


sov holding is basically a gimmick whose only real benefit is allowing you to build supercaps and upgrade ihubs to allow more anoms to spawn so that nobody will bother running them

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#66 - 2012-03-26 09:39:44 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
People like you just don't get it. You view hisec as the great unwashed or the rebels. They wont be your fodder and they wont be your target (Or free victim) so what does that make them to you.


actually anyone who lives in highsec after playing the game for years upon years is just a risk-averse baby scared to death of the idea of losing access to the stations where all their things are in

the "rebels" live in wormholes and we just leave them alone because we suck at probing

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2012-03-26 09:44:24 UTC
Andski wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
your leader lets you rat in your space? ours just yells at us to use Incursion alts because they're both more profitable and safer, then jump clone back to fight for space

truly the rewards of nullsec space vs incursions is balanced indeed


sov holding is basically a gimmick whose only real benefit is allowing you to build supercaps and upgrade ihubs to allow more anoms to spawn so that nobody will bother running them


And jump Bridge arrays but that took another kick in the face last year when they restricted it to one per system.

Null is and always has been an ISK sink. How much ISK does Goon have tied up in capital and super capital BPO's?
Taiwanistan
#68 - 2012-03-26 10:08:52 UTC
lol endeavour butthurt bitchin bout afk cloakers

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."

Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#69 - 2012-03-26 10:11:59 UTC
Haha OP! Interesting point of view you have there. The way I read that is basically less competition from morons. While morons may be moronic, they are numerous enough to cause problems. Can't wait!
Taiwanistan
#70 - 2012-03-26 10:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Taiwanistan
also most of you pve lovin hisecers are all worthless because you do nothing but grind for your next plex, what you going to tell me that pve in eve is fun? why do you even play this game quit and gtfo

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-03-26 10:18:57 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
hey anyone reading this i have a noctis tackled in NIZJ-0 in esoteria but my anathema can't crack the noctis' passive shield regen


someone plz help i will fleet u and you can warp to this anom and we will share this km : twisted:

http://i.imgur.com/2fgg8.jpg

try to put more than 1 n00b gun next time Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#72 - 2012-03-26 10:31:00 UTC
Maby its good maby not we will see, maby we will have "protests" again maby not.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Riddick Liddell
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-03-26 10:43:14 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
also most of you pve lovin hisecers are all worthless because you do nothing but grind for your next plex, what you going to tell me that pve in eve is fun? why do you even play this game quit and gtfo


Then you wouldn't have anything to bellyache about.
TheBlueMonkey
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#74 - 2012-03-26 11:07:39 UTC
You know what's really shafting high sec industry?
The people that do high sec industry.

I see it all the time, people making things where there's no profit in it then complaining about it.

Here's a free tip, buy up mid-meta mission loot for less than it's material value, reprocess, sell materials... or make stuff out of it and then sell it for it's material value (if not more).

Also, why should it be possibly to make huge amounts of easy, risk free, isk in empire?
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#75 - 2012-03-26 11:25:30 UTC
So what exactly is wrong with getting EVE back on track again?
Ender Karazaki
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2012-03-26 11:32:15 UTC
I'm shaking in my virtual boots. Really I am...shaking.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#77 - 2012-03-26 11:37:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I don't believe CCP is dumb enough to stomp on hisec players that hard. Especially after the many nerfs the players have already experienced
Nerfs such as…?

Mashie Saldana wrote:
So what exactly is wrong with getting EVE back on track again?
Your off-the-track earning scheme might be ruined. Blink
Victor Valka
Insterstellar Mining and Manufacturing
#78 - 2012-03-26 11:38:25 UTC
EVE IS DYING!!!11!00001011! Shocked


What? Wrong thread?
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-03-26 11:40:38 UTC
I never found 0.0 that risky but only stayed there about a month. Get rid of local then you could really call it risky.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#80 - 2012-03-26 11:46:41 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
I never found 0.0 that risky but only stayed there about a month. Get rid of local then you could really call it risky.


yeah you're pretty dumb

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar