EVE New Citizens Q&A

There's a dedicated thread for buddy invites, you might have some good deals there.

The idea is: if the very best offer doesn't give an answer, move on the next offer and contact others who may be giving away a little bit less, there's not just one guy offering buddy invites, isn't it?

Forget about it, you're simply not going to make that much money unless you scam somebody or someone willingly lets you scam him - which means every " I'll salvage that exploration site for you and we'll split the loot " scheme they'd have to come up with -.

Retards are your best best.

Making enough ISK to sub an account with PLEX in 21 days is extremely difficult because it's a hit or miss. Might be possible if you can train a char for incursion during, like, 19 days, and run incursions for the remaining 2 days, provided that you managed to train the skills to be accepted in a fleet and got the ISK to fund the ship and mods. Or have a RL friend lend you a plex to sub the account from the start then use the extended first month of subscription to make enough ISK. Or scam, as mentionned earlier, but if many tried to play Eve for free before (except the 5 or so dollars from the first subscription), I don't think a significant amount actually succeeded.

While it's virtually possible, it's really hard to achieve, even more so for someone with very little, to no experience in Eve at all.

Say you fail at collecting enough ISK to sub the account before it expires, you're left with two choices, keep the actual training and ISK then sub with a full payment and try again the next month, or try another trial and start over again, training the same things and limiting your experience of Eve to the same things for another 21 days.
Of course, if you succeed, it's great, but will you be able to do it again for the second month, the next ones? as time goes by, it becomes more likely, but what happens if you can't meet the required spare 500mil for a month?

CCP makes it clear, that scamming isn't allowed in the buddy program thread.

The buddy invite thread also states:

So anyone replying to this thread might cause it to be locked for advertising.
The buddy offer thread is also the best place to discuss offers advertised, as it's a central place for CCP to monitor and update the OP if one advertiser is reported as no longer answering, instead of scouting all threads in the forum sections.
If Zendo doesn't answer, might be because:
- he's busy RL and can't log on,
- he's got a lot of newbs to handle already,
- he simply did what he advertised and helped them making ISK but they couldn't reach the price of a PLEX,
- any other possible reason.
His offer might have been genuine, or a subtle way of getting a few PLEX for himself, out of buddy invites through some subscriptions amongst the 20 invites available per month.
Can't tell, can't prove anything. But if there's one place to mention it, it's in the buddy trial thread, for the reason mentionned earlier in this post.

But to answer the other questions:

There is a general suspicion towards new characters, as they can be used to scam, spy, steal, etc.
There may be many other reasons, but every PLEX is paid through RL money, be it when you buy it yourself from account management, or when the guy you buy it from in-game bought it through account management. Either way, it's an item worth roughly 20 euros. How often do you offer 20 euros freely to a complete stranger?

People have been trying to promote Eve through the buddy invite program, by sharing the ISK obtained through the PLEX reward with the new player, gives a little kickstart. But nothing forces them to share it, just like nothing forces buddies to sub.
If the buddy subs, then only, does the guy get the reward. No sub, no reward, no loss other than an invite that someone else might have accepted.

True philanthropy is very rare, even more in Eve.

Now, about the Commissioned Officer Edition, I can't say for sure, but I believe the account activation fees are included in the price. Would be quite silly if CCP asked for them after you already paid for a month's game time.

Interesting, seems odd indeed, but I guess there's some reason why CCP keeps the thread in the new citizen section. Can't tell though.


20 euros for a single plex is the regular price, goes diminishing when buying in bulk and there's often special offers with lower average prices, but yeah, 20 bucks per plex doesn't make nvidia's offer very appealing.

You have to pay the 5 €/$ only if you start with a subscription right away. Upgrade your account with PLEX or a retail box/key (Comissioned Officer Edition, Steam purchase, etc.) and you don't have to pay anything extra.

If you don't like it why do you keep forcing yourself to play it?

If you must continue to shove a square plug in a round hole just cancel your WoW sub for a month, buy a PLEX and stop being a cheapskate. Or see my post about the Steam sale today..

If you want to make plex in 21 day your going to have to trade.

You can start off trade ing right away.

I cannot tell you what specifically to trade because that would be a troll. Whats good for trading changes constantly.

Read the market find good margins and product movement and pounce. You may have to start with small frys but you'll be working up at a steady rate.

I knew a person who with a trial account claimed they traded all the way up to a plex in a day. How much of that day it took him to get there I dont know.

Remember. Find what you want to trade. Always have the best price for the buy orders you set, always have the lowest price for the sell orders you set. The greater the difference between the two is your profit. So do your homework first.

Dont trade in Jita to agressive too many trading bots try: Rens, dodixie, amar.

Get that plex and welcome back to EVE. Stick around.

Something interesting might happen...

I like this idea and already started to camp the market and try understand how it works. Right now I don't understand much about what are you sayin, same as I don't understand why I need to make a base in Dodixie or Jita to trade. But I figured out already that hauling stuff is pretty profitable. Buying low, selling high its actually a good strategy in this game. I was a hardcore market whore in WoW and Rift and I made fortunes playing the AH, EVE market is much more better and complex, I already love it.

I have a week left on this trial and I will try to learn the basics and after that I will start another trial then subscribe. Last year I was unable to like the game much enough to sub, but now day by day I love it more and more. Thanks for the advice.