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Fanfest Alliance Panel Disgusting

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flakeys
Doomheim
#201 - 2012-03-24 10:56:47 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Vladimir Plinnikov wrote:

You also missed my point about the Teen rating. What I said was because of the rating their are teens playing the game. What if this guy was an introverted 13 year old and Mittens said what he said? Herp derp you don't care. When you have kids you'll figure it out. If you already do I hope you're a better father than you're coming off on this thread.


Im a grandfather, how is it my responsibility to care for another mans child?

Where are his parents while he's crying his eyes out about killing himself in an internet space ship game?


Literally how dare you insinuate that its anybodies fault but the people in his real life.



So yes, I mock him, like I mock you, the well intentioned world grief counselor who would dare demand that the rest of the world uphold his raggedy overbearing belief structure.



If he's troubled, he has a family, he has people around him, and its their job to deal with it, not mine, not yours, not anybody elses, and yes, suicide is a pussies way out, I'd mock anybody considering it relentlessly, get it over with and stop wasting my air.


Because you should only take your actions into account if you could be held responsible?Not everyone has family or friends around to support them , just because you , me and a shitload of others are that lucky should not mean we all are that lucky.


That said , i watched the panel as so many threads have been made about it.I have to say not being a fan of goons/test or CSM in general i did not see anything wrong with how they acted besides that one comment .Just grown ups acting like kids , something me and my friends usually do too when we go out without the wife/kids for a change every now and then.You know boys will be boys ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#202 - 2012-03-24 11:02:45 UTC
I'm watching the interview of this Dirt Nap guy right now. I have never, ever seen anyone so smug. So many, "right, right, right..." and "heh heh heh." OH MY GOD MAN.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#203 - 2012-03-24 11:22:57 UTC
Kai Tel wrote:
Ivana Twinkle wrote:
Kai Tel wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
This is an outrage

Panel members behaving in a manner completely contrary to the nature of the event

I expect Kelduum to conduct himself more appropriately in the future


This is funny coming from a guy belonging to a group called "True Apathy..."



I see sarcasm is wasted on you.


Typical goon. Botch a troll alt post so that you look like nothing more than another nut poster on a board full of nut posters and then blame everyone else for not getting your "sarcasm." I am just so unsympathetic. 1/10.


I don't know if it's sarcasm or not but I'll try and explain this for you.

The first two lines are a setup, pretending I am angry about certain shenanigans during the Alliance panel, making out I believe the entire panel should be serious.

The third line reveals I believe it is Kelduum's behaviour that is aberrant. Kelduum is the leader of EVE Uni and his presentation was rather more sober. The reveal that I do not think anyone should be making serious speeches, contrary to the topic and therefore the reader's perception of my meaning in the first two lines, is designed to be humourous.

And you had to go and bloody ruin the joke didn't you
Caneb
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#204 - 2012-03-24 12:12:45 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
SC0T1SH WARRIOR wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
Is CCP really allowing drinking during the daily presentations or are kids just getting drunk beforehand?


As soon as Fanfest opened, there was alcohol being sold.

There is a video of them handing beers to people as they get off the plane.

I was on that bus, it was awesome. About a dozen CCP people threw an unannounced welcome party at the airport, stuffed us all into a bus and gave us as many beers as we had time to drink during the trip. I also recall a bottle of JD and a bottle of whisky getting passed around.

All my 5s to CCP.
Acthiliak
Space Cookie Inc.
Miners In New Eden Services
#205 - 2012-03-24 22:35:00 UTC
Absolutely terrible. More alcohol next time please.
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
#206 - 2012-03-24 22:49:14 UTC
I laughed harder during this panel than any other.

It was more fun to watch than some of the CCP-run ones (what's with the Module presentation being so dry for such an awesome concept? Even Sreeg's security one was entertaining and it had NOTHING to do with me, for the most part).

If you were offended, don't watch. I think its pretty much implied that the Alliance Panel and the Quiz show are going to be offensive, at least it SHOULD be common knowledge by now.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!

Commander McSpacepants
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#207 - 2012-03-25 03:02:14 UTC
Triskian wrote:
The guy who ran the TEST portion of the panel was ejected from the $100 charity dinner.


It's a sign! This is going to be a great year for EVE.
Serene Repose
#208 - 2012-03-25 05:28:32 UTC
The King of the Braindead held court? Gee. Glad I missed it.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#209 - 2012-03-25 06:56:02 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
The King of the Braindead held court? Gee. Glad I missed it.


Too bad...he wore a wizard hat.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Stuntane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#210 - 2012-03-25 17:14:53 UTC
That panel was dirt. Eve's often been referred to as a game for more mature mmo players. What we saw was just embarrassing. I think CCP should be embarrassed that these people are the best our community has to offer. It really reminded me to think again about why I'm even out here with these guys. They sound like a bunch of way too cool dudes, fresh out of high school having their first drink. Whoahh I'm so drunk man. Not a moment of character was had. I'm hanging out with a bunch of losers.

On the upside, I really enjoyed speaker number two - the wormhole diver.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#211 - 2012-03-25 17:41:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Klymer
TheCarl wrote:
Aryndel Vyst wrote:


I think you're just mad you can't by alcohol with your food stamps.


To all the lazy and impoverished in this thread who would like to have alcohol but believe they cannot because they only have food stamps, fear not! Alcohol can be made in your own home using simple household ingredients, many of which can be purchased using government issued food stamps.

Just take an old milk jug, fill it with juice concentrate, yeast, sugar, and water! Wait two weeks and you will have a nice wine that you can share with your friends! Thanks, government handouts!



lol +1 for the instructions, but buying alcohol with food stamps is easier than you guys think. I worked the graveyard shift at a stop and rob in one of the rougher parts of town while I was in college. What they would do is come in and buy something cheap that was on the approved items list, you know actual food. They would then use the change to buy beer and smokes.




edit....oh yeah and someone post a dam link to the video. I can only image how funny the **** is considering someone has posted the following.

http://www.evenews247.com/2012/03/fanfest-2012-alliance-panel/
space gator
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#212 - 2012-03-26 00:53:57 UTC
Fanfest 2012 Alliance Board Presentation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ki91U-mBE&list=HL1332571817&feature=mh_lolz

It's not my post on youtube and it's shown as unlisted, so I don't know if it will stay up.
Marduk Nibiru
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#213 - 2012-03-26 04:44:22 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Another Eve is serious - you can not make fun of any one or joke about anything regardless of how much you've drunk thread?


You make it sound like it was all on the fly.

Is this really the case? I wasn't there. Seems to me that copying someone's EvE mail for a presentation would take some amount of preparation and forethought. Would being drunk then be an excuse?

Besides, people don't actually change when they're drunk. Some of the facade drops, that's all. Being drunk has never been a valid excuse for anything.

I wasn't there, haven't seen it...but if you find yourself needing to say, "He was drunk," in order to continue supporting the guy...maybe you should rethink that support.
Marduk Nibiru
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#214 - 2012-03-26 05:50:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Marduk Nibiru
OK, I was about to post how I thought nothing in the presentation was overboard. That the TEST and Mittens guy were obviously hammered, and think they're more important than they really are, but that people who get worked up about the game enough to send you hate eve mail are just ******* funny and should be made fun of. I do it a lot too...

I was also going to say that nobody can be taken to task for coddling people's feelings that are just too ****** up to exist in modern society. If you want to off yourself, well whatever....not a lot anyone can do about it and just because someone was mean to you doesn't mean they did it.

But yeah, saying, "If you want to make the guy really kill himself his name is...." during the comment section...dude's a ****. That's going past that point and entering a realm of incivility that really has no place anywhere. Did he mean it? Probably. Sometimes our darker natures are more apparent when we're drunk as we have less control of them...not an excuse really but inhibitions are important. Hopefully that's all it was and the dude doesn't really mean to imply that EvE players should all go bully this guy until he off's himself....because that's just ******* sick as ****.

Nice to know that this is the representation we EvE players voted for....

Still, if the guy DOES off himself because he got bullied in a game...that's really his own ******* fault. I've been through a **** of a lot worse and really have no sympathy for people that use it as an excuse to fail.
Steel Wraith
#215 - 2012-03-26 06:55:26 UTC
The guy strikes me as a total douche bag, actually a lot of the group-think something awful culture makes for some cringe-worthy people, but should the way people act always be carefully controlled and vetted to be appropriate for all audiences and environments? No. I'd rather see people freely drink and have a good time and say what they please than watch some stodgy event in which the participants' main concern is how their actions will be perceived by viewers days later.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#216 - 2012-03-26 07:10:56 UTC
Steel Wraith wrote:
The guy strikes me as a total douche bag, actually a lot of the group-think something awful culture makes for some cringe-worthy people, but should the way people act always be carefully controlled and vetted to be appropriate for all audiences and environments? No. I'd rather see people freely drink and have a good time and say what they please than watch some stodgy event in which the participants' main concern is how their actions will be perceived by viewers days later.


Do you mean the OP or Mittani?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#217 - 2012-03-26 07:15:05 UTC
Steel Wraith wrote:
The guy strikes me as a total douche bag, actually a lot of the group-think something awful culture makes for some cringe-worthy people, but should the way people act always be carefully controlled and vetted to be appropriate for all audiences and environments? No. I'd rather see people freely drink and have a good time and say what they please than watch some stodgy event in which the participants' main concern is how their actions will be perceived by viewers days later.


Which I guess is fine for a what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas attitude.

But it doesn't excuse the aftermath on the forums. Or the fact that Mittens can't man up and see the importance of the subject when he has in fact sobered up. Maybe SA trivialises a number of things as a culture, maybe as a result Mittens has peer pressure to "perform" as the demonic clown he is, but at the end of the day it can be clear to see which individuals have what kind of values and standards as a result.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#218 - 2012-03-26 07:18:19 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Steel Wraith wrote:
The guy strikes me as a total douche bag, actually a lot of the group-think something awful culture makes for some cringe-worthy people, but should the way people act always be carefully controlled and vetted to be appropriate for all audiences and environments? No. I'd rather see people freely drink and have a good time and say what they please than watch some stodgy event in which the participants' main concern is how their actions will be perceived by viewers days later.


Which I guess is fine for a what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas attitude.

But it doesn't excuse the aftermath on the forums. Or the fact that Mittens can't man up and see the importance of the subject when he has in fact sobered up. Maybe SA trivialises a number of things as a culture, maybe as a result Mittens has peer pressure to "perform" as the demonic clown he is, but at the end of the day it can be clear to see which individuals have what kind of values and standards as a result.


Maybe he just *gasp* doesn't give a ****.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Marduk Nibiru
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#219 - 2012-03-26 07:19:26 UTC
Steel Wraith wrote:
The guy strikes me as a total douche bag, actually a lot of the group-think something awful culture makes for some cringe-worthy people, but should the way people act always be carefully controlled and vetted to be appropriate for all audiences and environments? No. I'd rather see people freely drink and have a good time and say what they please than watch some stodgy event in which the participants' main concern is how their actions will be perceived by viewers days later.


True that. People should be unapologetic about who they are. I don't have a problem with people not liking that person though.

Sort of like a racist ranting his racist crap. I support their right to do so and I'm glad when they do...for it allows me to be fully aware of how full of **** they are.

And yeah....I actually do think the comparison is valid.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2012-03-26 07:38:51 UTC
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
Nice to know that this is the representation we EvE players voted for....


10,058 people agree with you.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.