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Predictions on "Incursion Iteration" coming in Pre-Inferno Patch

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Zircon Dasher
#1 - 2012-03-24 17:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Zircon Dasher
John Lander just announced "Iteration on Incursions" coming in the pre-patch (April)

SOOO what are your predictions?


I will start:

Scout sites get a boost
Vanguards will not be blitzed in 3min.
Assault/HQ changes (no idea)


EDIT:

Changes per features page-

Changes are VG get nerf
Assault get buff.

See pg 8 for details

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Ana'Gia
Pink Bunny Club
#2 - 2012-03-24 17:57:59 UTC
VG nerf.
The intresting thing will be the new modules coming oout on the next expansion. John Lander promised big chances in fleet composations.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-03-24 18:13:58 UTC
Hopefully high sec incursions will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet they are today. Lucky we got a decent CSM to deal with the issue.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Zircon Dasher
#4 - 2012-03-24 18:17:47 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully high sec incursions will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet they are today. Lucky we got a decent CSM to deal with the issue.


So you think CCP is going to mandate players shoot each other to gain the incursion rewards??

Would be interesting

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-03-24 18:22:24 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully high sec incursions will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet they are today. Lucky we got a decent CSM to deal with the issue.


So you think CCP is going to mandate players shoot each other to gain the incursion rewards??

Would be interesting


I don't really care about the mechanics but people shouldn't be able to make that much isk in a risk-free environment.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Zircon Dasher
#6 - 2012-03-24 18:26:14 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully high sec incursions will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet they are today. Lucky we got a decent CSM to deal with the issue.


So you think CCP is going to mandate players shoot each other to gain the incursion rewards??

Would be interesting


I don't really care about the mechanics but people shouldn't be able to make that much isk in a risk-free environment.


CCP should be forced to provide risk in EVE. Since highsec is risk free we obviously cannot leave it up to the players themselves.

Sandboxes are dumb amirite?

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#7 - 2012-03-24 18:27:25 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Zircon Dasher wrote:
John Lander just announced "Iteration on Incursions" coming in the pre-patch (April)

SOOO what are your predictions?


I will start:

Scout sites get a boost
Vanguards will not be blitzed in 3min.
Assault/HQ changes (no idea)


I missed hearing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING being said about Incursions in all of fanfest! What time was this mentioned ????

Maybe Iteration means that there will be a new pirate faction or Sleeper Incursion? Maybe a Jovian Incursion will replace Sansha after a Sansha Titan gets taken down I hopes :)


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An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Zircon Dasher
#8 - 2012-03-24 18:31:02 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:

I missed hearing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING being said about Incursions! What time was this mentioned ????


Did not get a time stamp, but (iirc) it was the only time Lander talked today.

And don't worry about missing "content". There was none.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-03-24 18:33:47 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
CCP should be forced to provide risk in EVE. Since highsec is risk free we obviously cannot leave it up to the players themselves.


That's not what I said at all. If players want to play in a risk-free environment I don't care but they shouldn't be able to easily make billions of isk doing it.

High risk - high reward
Low risk - low reward

It's simple.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Endeavour Starfleet
#10 - 2012-03-24 18:34:27 UTC
My guess? Tagging shortcut and more HQ sites. Vanguards wont be "nerfed" as so many have lied to try to get done. Perhaps HQ payout boost.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#11 - 2012-03-24 18:37:20 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully high sec incursions will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet they are today. Lucky we got a decent CSM to deal with the issue.


I thought you said tech moons for a minute.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-03-24 18:43:39 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully high sec incursions will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet they are today. Lucky we got a decent CSM to deal with the issue.


I thought you said tech moons for a minute.


Yeah nobody fights over tech moons...

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#13 - 2012-03-24 19:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully TECH MOONS will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet , ATM machines they are today. Lucky we got a CSM to deal with the issue.


I thought you said incursions for a minute.


Yeah nobody fights over tech moons...


And no players ships go poof in Incursions because there is no risk
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Mimiru Minahiro
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-03-24 20:59:08 UTC
It would be sweet if they weighted the spawning mechanic to favor low or null.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-03-24 21:01:23 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hopefully TECH MOONS will no longer be the risk-free isk faucet , ATM machines they are today. Lucky we got a CSM to deal with the issue.


I thought you said incursions for a minute.


Yeah nobody fights over tech moons...


And no players ships go poof in Incursions because there is no risk


Correct. Assuming you're talking about high sec incursions.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#16 - 2012-03-24 21:08:57 UTC
Vanguards nerfed certainly, but if CCP has any sense of balance they will inject PvP into High Sec Incursions or remove them altogether.
Zircon Dasher
#17 - 2012-03-24 21:17:18 UTC
Mimiru Minahiro wrote:
It would be sweet if they weighted the spawning mechanic to favor low or null.


Why? That would just decrease participation in one of the few PVE content lines that works.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Selinate
#18 - 2012-03-24 21:18:45 UTC
Ana'Gia wrote:
VG nerf.
The intresting thing will be the new modules coming oout on the next expansion. John Lander promised big chances in fleet composations.


The fleet UI itself need help. Badly. The interface for the fleet window is so impenetrable for new users that it's a HUGE turnoff.
gfldex
#19 - 2012-03-24 21:29:06 UTC
Vans will get nerfed to a point where they are pointless. Assaults will be boosted without trying to min/max them before release.

As a result the whining will be ENDLESS, as usual and folk will make even more ISK in a risk free environment that doesn't work well with wars and kill rights.

When wardecs get boosted the whining will be ENDLESS and pretty much any Incursioneed will drop back into NPC corps after they all went into the same corp to make wardecs insanely expensive.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#20 - 2012-03-24 22:16:46 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Ladie Harlot wrote:

And no players ships ever go poof in Incursions because there is no risk

Correct. Assuming you're talking about high sec incursions.


Ha now I can call you a bald face liar.
is your wallet blinking from my membership deposit yet Goonie?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
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