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Need Fitting Help and [b]info[/b] for the manticore.
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Lucien VII
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-03-19 13:13:24 UTC
Hello fellow Eve online players:

Ok so I’m new to the game (so be nice) and am trying my hardest of come up the best possible fit for the manticore (stealth bomber).

I plan to fly it solo for factional warfare and in 0.0 trying to catch unaware ratters. I do appreciate that the hound / purifier are the better solo ones but none the less I will be using it for group work and I think the 4x midslots will be useful for Electronic warfare.

I need your help with which fit will be best for solo work and what to aim for in the long run my current fits are:

1st attempt

3x Arbelast Launchers
1x Cov-op Cloak
1x bomb launcher

1x Warp Disruptor II
1x Small Cap Booster II
1x Coreli 1MN MWD ( is only 10mill in contracts)
1x phased target Painter.

1x MAPC
1x BCU II

2x small polycarbon engine housing.

Now heres where I need help. The ship will travel at 1800-1900 ms at a 20km orbit. I know small drones will eat it alive but will medium and or heavies. I know that they will be able to keep up but will they be able to hit and track me? I know a hound can reach with a different setup 2600m/s.

If I got a low grade snake set I can make it reach 2200 would that dramatically make a difference?

I did make a fit with a small shield extender 2 instead of the cap injector but its sig radius is too large I think.

What imp trying to get at is will a SB moving at just under 2km (or 2800 overheated) be eaten alive by medium drones or large drones?

Thanks in advance. Sorry these seem like simple questions but imp new to eve and the learning curve (to play it properly) is pretty crazy.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#2 - 2012-03-19 13:35:10 UTC
someone can just stop and accelerate ship - that will make your ship loose speed or even turn around. then drones come in and you're dead.

also you know how much snakes cost right? just to fly a stealth bomber? no.
Lucien VII
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-03-19 13:37:33 UTC
I know there expensive but I meant as a long term investment. Would the med drones be able to kill the SB quickly???
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#4 - 2012-03-19 13:45:57 UTC
My fitting is 3 Tech 2 launchers in the high slots. 1 burner in the mid and three painters with Ballistic and I think CPU2 in low.

I can hit at 60k away and get enough vollys off to seriously hurt if not destory my intended target. I would never try and fly fast at 20km and be confident that I wouldn't get zapped. I like the idea just doubt it would work. For me I feel like how sub's are during war. Picking your target at range firing off and slipping away.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-03-19 13:51:24 UTC
Usually drone ships carry multiple flights of drones, one of each type at least. Light drones would shred you. Mediums and heavies would as well, due to the bloated sig radius the MWD grants you with.

My tip: use a different ship for hunting ratters. If you insist being covert, a Pilgrim is a great choice. Bombers are a really poor choice of ship for solo work -- they are the slowest and squishiest of all frigates.

If you really want to use a bomber despite that, some commentary on your fit:


  1. The Bomb launcher isn't too useful for what your intended purpose for the ship is. You could take it off to have more fittings for other things.
  2. There's not much of a point to using an expensive MWD. They all have the same speed bonus.
  3. Some sort of tank, even a SSE, would be good. A Damage Control would be great, if possible.
  4. T2 Siege Missile Launchers will change your life.


Hope this works out for you!

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-03-19 14:43:53 UTC
[Manticore, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Trauma Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Trauma Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Trauma Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Based on my hound fit. has a web but is slower.
For solo work id recomend an AB (especially in lowsec)
Uncloak as close as you can, orbit, put the gun on a drone.
Dont bother with cruisers or smaller untill you know what your doing, and be prepared to orbit at a larger rad if they pull out webs/neuts ect.
Overheat when they hit peak shield recharge/ to break tank
cap stable without the web on (cap stable is a lie)

No Worries
Lucien VII
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-03-19 16:02:20 UTC
Thanks for all of the help and advice so far.

I will definately try an afterburner version for low sec, my issue with it was in 0.0 its nigh on impossible to escape a gate camp without a MWD.

the other option was instead of using a Target painter use a Tracking disruptor, with the speed and smallish sig turrets wouldnt be able to track.

thanks again for any continued input.
Asuka Smith
StarHunt
#8 - 2012-03-19 16:22:08 UTC
I wouldn't use a sb for solo work unless I was really confident the target has no drones whatsoever.