Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think it's kind of lame that an un-sieged dread does less dps than a battleship. I also think that Naglfars using missile launchers is kinda of lame.

I think dread damage out of siege should do 1.5x - 2x the dps of a battleship. It's not that much to ask considering the hulls cost ~10x+ as much. Cut the siege module bonuses to keep sieged DPS the same.

Change the Nag back to using 2x turrets with a damage bonus buff to keep DPS in-line with the 3-turret dreads. Drop the missile hardpoints. Possibly drop a high-slot as well. Alternatively, give it bonuses to missiles and guns, and leave it with two of each hardpoint but 3 highs, thus allowing pilots to choose missiles or guns depending on their preferences (this fits with the Minmatar "versatility" gimmick).

Dreads are underpowered as it is, and adding 50-100% to their un-seiged damage isn't going to break the game. People might even use them more!


e: I guess another approach you could take would be to add a new class of capship that's basically a mini-titan, whose only job is to use capital weapons and do 2-2.5k dps. No siege. This seems way more complicated though.

Can you sod off if you're not even going to read the post? I said set the Nag up to use only TWO guns, DROP the fourth high, and change the damage bonus on the hull to make it do the same DPS as a 3-turret dread (CCP have already stated that re-modeling the ship to allow a 3rd turret hardpoint would be too much effort). I agree-- capital missiles suck, especially vestigial, un-bonused ones. How is making the Nag use a single weapon type (like the other dreads) while doing the same DPS as the other dreads "making it do half the damage and giving it a utility high?" Reading 101, friend.



This is a more valid complaint, however I think it's fair to say that dreads will still need to be sieged to be effective in a capital battle or to crack structures in any reasonable amount of time.

Honestly I was thinking my proposed change would allow dreads to be used for PvE or other solo / small group activities that benefit from additional DPS. Currently a dread is just straight up worse than a battleship for PvE-- while they could only really be practical out of siege, even IN siege a dread is worse than a BS due to its horrible locktime and reduced target count. If dreads outdamaged battleships by a fair margin while out of siege, they might have uses outside of PvP (where siege is essentially required).

Carriers are useful for PvP, PvE, and personal logistics. As a result, you see lots of people flying them in lots of capacities. Dreads are good for two things and two things only (at least currently)-- suicide dropping, and unopposed structure shooting. I'd kind of like to see that change.

I think a one minute cycle might be a little too short.

I agree though, even with the shortened siege timer to 5 minutes it's a painfully long time. Maybe have the skill reduce siege time by 10% per level so that you get a 2 minute 30 second siege timer. That way Dreads could "burst" their siege mode. Have a manic 150 seconds of DPS and heavy tank and hope they can hold out long enough to drop out of siege, receive reps and go back into siege