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alrighty, i know this is a gunpowder keg issue... but... concerning remaps
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Kuroi Aurgnet
Cry Of Death
Almost Underdogs
#1 - 2012-03-06 21:19:51 UTC
People have considered the whole PLEX for remaps idea. THAT is a bad idea. period. the PLEX should not be used for anything more than it is already. BUT what if we made remaps kind of like a PLEX of their own. an item you could redeem for a remap. Now, there are two ways this could be effectively implemented. 1. they could be one of those incredibly rare things you find in like, a class 5 sleeper magnetometric site with a 1/10000 possibility, therefore not just EVERYONE could go and get one and those who wanted to buy one would have to put up a LOT of ISK for it, or 2. we could just have it be exactly like PLEX- you can by it with real cash, maybe sell it ingame, blah blah blah. Realistically speaking it is a good way for CCP to make more money, because SO many noobs would do it.

and to ANYONE who is going to pull the "thats unfair" card, leave the game now, because this isnt your game if you are complaining something is unfair. NOTHING in this game is fair. and to anyone who says "Y U SUGGEST F2P THINGS?!?" the game is already f2p if you make enough money ingame. can anyone say PLEX? in the end, any argument that you could throw against it, there would be a perfectly reasonable counter-argument.

this is just an idea, so lets TRY to be a little more constructive in arguments besides "leave now" and "Y U TROLLIN?" and stuff.... though i know that this being a forum online, there are plenty of 12 years olds who are going to troll anyhow.

So yeah.... have a nice day :D

Just that hint of cynicism the world needs now and then.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2012-03-06 21:27:17 UTC
Choices have consequences. Rookies get two free remaps to start with.

Why is this needed?

(also, no, this is still a bad idea).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#3 - 2012-03-06 21:33:23 UTC
The short response to this is: NO

For a longer explanation, keep reading:

The skill queue system in EVE with re-mappable attributes only so often is one of the core concepts of the entire game. ANY change to that, no matter how small, is not needed and will have a negative impact upon the game. CCP has already gone too far in making this game not F2P but P2W (Pay to Win) with the totally bullshit character bazaar.

Every time this idea, or another idea like it that messes with the skill queue, is suggested, it is immediately shot down the the community as a whole. Your inability to search the forums in advance of posting suggests that this is in fact a troll, but I'll go on. There is NO reason to change the skill queue at all. Making it so that players can use any type of in-game item, ISK, RL Cash, or anything else to modify the skill queue or any part of it (remaps included) would be game breaking and should not be introduced.



tl;dr version: NO, this idea sucks, learn to search before posting the same crap over and over again.

And, as mentioned already - choices have consequences.
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#4 - 2012-03-06 21:35:26 UTC
You know, choices should have consequences.

Paying $15 or 400Misk to undo a bad choice is a consequence, just one that is apparently unpalatable to a vocal minority of players.

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#5 - 2012-03-06 21:37:15 UTC
But 400m ISK is not a MEANINGFUL consequence - real consequences don't have an "insta-fix" that can be applied to solve the problem. Consequences mean that you cannot remap for a year, or until next Christmas.
Kuroi Aurgnet
Cry Of Death
Almost Underdogs
#6 - 2012-03-06 22:42:33 UTC
i understand the whole choices have consequences thing. THAT i get. and yes, i know how to search a forum. I saw a similar thread, but my idea differed from theirs in apporach, and posting different approaches to a similar thread never really gets any attention.

and i can understand the sentiment, but if this were something that were the case, i would also suggest removing the bonus remaps. I know that the skill queue is a dynamic of the game and blah blah blah, but honestly, if the person has to pay to change their skill queue, CCP itself isnt losing any cash. the time theyd save through the remap would be offset by the price. in the end the person would always pay the same amount (or at least the same amount of money would go in) so i dont see how this would affect CCP negatively, other than bitter players who might take offense and leave. honestly, i liked a different idea which was just remove remaps PERIOD. that would have a similar effect. im just saying, if they are going to HAVE remaps, a method like this could only bring them in more cash.

and to all you "i hate pay to win style", guess what? thats LIFE. LIFE is pay to win. you dont win in life with nothing. its similar in this game that mega empires with billions of ISK a day at their disposal will generally triumph over a small corp with maybe a few hundred mil a month to spare.

in any case i believe its best to either have the remap system changed to be more dynamic, or remove it. its just... weird. Period. not trying to invoke trollfests like i pretty much already have. just a simple look at things, just as all of yours are also a look on things.


aaaaannnnndddddd thats about it on that. Who knows... maybe i was just posting this to troll around a little. after all, it seems thats all people do online nowadays anyhow.

Just that hint of cynicism the world needs now and then.