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Obligatory Fix Bounty Hunting Thread
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Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#1 - 2011-09-06 15:28:19 UTC
Well, let's get this started on the new forums (assuming Eve the spaceship game is still being developed). Limit bounty payouts to the cost of a new clone and any implants lost. Or look at some of the many excellent other suggestions soon to be lost in the old forums.

No good deed goes unpunished
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#2 - 2011-09-06 15:37:22 UTC
I'm not sure if you're aware but there's a "final plan" of changes the CSM is/are putting forth to change Bounty Hunting for the better.

PDF Reader of some sort required.

An old thread with highlights of the proposed changes can be found here.

As I'm sure you're itching to point out, the thread was made in late 2008 and times have changed since then but as far as I'm aware this is the furthest we've got to changes to the Bounty system so far.
Xanath Fireheart
Natla Technologies
#3 - 2011-09-06 15:58:58 UTC
It's a shame something like that hasn't already been implemented.

I see quite a few younger players express real desire to train up to be a bounty hunter, only to be told how pointless it all is because of the current bounty mechanics.

It's like watching your kid open an empty box on christmas morning.... What?

[i][b][center]  I'm a warrior... The blood won't wash away.[/center][/b][/i]
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#4 - 2011-09-06 16:37:07 UTC
Cable Udan wrote:
I'm not sure if you're aware but there's a "final plan" of changes the CSM is/are putting forth to change Bounty Hunting for the better.

PDF Reader of some sort required.


how recent is that .pdf?

it would be nice to see something like that implemented soon, although the "ranking" system might make things harder for the merc, being so publicly known as a bounty hunter might affect him negatively, everyone with a decent bounty would just red him up and if he entered local they would gtfo.

you should be able to hide your ranking if you want.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#5 - 2011-09-06 16:41:46 UTC
SC0T1SH WARRIOR wrote:

how recent is that .pdf?

it would be nice to see something like that implemented soon, although the "ranking" system might make things harder for the merc, being so publicly known as a bounty hunter might affect him negatively, everyone with a decent bounty would just red him up and if he entered local they would gtfo.

you should be able to hide your ranking if you want.


I believe the .pdf was released with the making of the thread I think, so back in late '08.

And I agree; if such a system was introduced people could avoid the top ranked bounty hunters but I'm sure if CCP took the time to revamp the bounty system they'd consider this hindrance.

I'd like to think so at least :P
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#6 - 2011-09-06 16:54:19 UTC
I'm not optimistic that any fix will ever happen, to be honest. Just because something was put forth 3 years ago gives me no reason to think it will actually happen. Not when we can have new imaginary internet clothes instead. It's a shame, bounty hunting could be a great part of the game. Even a relatively simple fix like limiting the payout would make it at least workable for now.

No good deed goes unpunished
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#7 - 2011-09-06 16:56:54 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
I'm not optimistic that any fix will ever happen, to be honest. Just because something was put forth 3 years ago gives me no reason to think it will actually happen. Not when we can have new imaginary internet clothes instead. It's a shame, bounty hunting could be a great part of the game. Even a relatively simple fix like limiting the payout would make it at least workable for now.


limiting the payout would mean no one would waste the time.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#8 - 2011-09-06 17:01:56 UTC
Perhaps, but it would at least be a start. I think some people would do it anyway once some kind of workable system was put in place. But there have been many great ideas to fix bounty hunting posted in the old forums, mine is just a simple one. It's an area that really deserves some dev love.

No good deed goes unpunished
Zangorus
Make-EVE-Great-Again
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#9 - 2011-09-06 18:52:33 UTC
Would be fun but keep dreaming they havent fixed mining for years!

Like my comment and recieve 1 million isk ingame!
AngelFood
#10 - 2011-09-07 06:10:49 UTC
tut go away, bounty system is fine as it is.
Plave Okice
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-09-07 06:57:21 UTC
AngelFood wrote:
tut go away, bounty system is fine as it is.


It really isn't, it's pointless. They might as well remove it if they're not going to fix it.
Arriah Sin
Sin's Deliverance
#12 - 2011-09-07 08:04:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Arriah Sin
Have the value of items destroyed transfer to the 'damagers' account up to the value of the current bounty (reducing the bounty but the amount paid out). Hell, make it pay out HALF the value of the destroyed ISK. Blow up his 50mil cruiser, get 25mil of his bounty. It would keep him as prey longer, and be even less exploitable (I think).

The bountee (and friends) could not profit from the system because they need to destroy a value of gear equal to the ISK they want to gain from the bounty.

Like all systems, it is likely exploitable...but a start.

I am not sure how to go about removing bounties from people that liquidate and bounty themselves before quitting the game...maybe have only active accounts show up on the bounty list. Giving bounties a time-limit before they expire and the cash is returned to the payer would be nice too (for both parties, as the payer COULD rebounty if he still has a grudge).


my $0.03 (damn inflation)
Warzar
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-09-07 14:14:31 UTC
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