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Bumping warping JF's of a high sec gate, exploit or not?

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Scrubby The Janitor
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#1 - 2017-05-16 09:27:45 UTC
As you probarbly alreaddy know people have found a way bump jumpfreighters off gates they are warping to, apperantly sometimes even before they exit warp.
I would like for CCP to come with a statment on how they stand on this, is it a gameplay mecanic you stand behind or is it considerd a bug and exploit to use it?

Vipsan Agrippa
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#2 - 2017-05-16 10:01:31 UTC

KeK!!! How long has this been happening??!!!??ShockedRoll
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Dom Arkaral
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#3 - 2017-05-16 12:15:26 UTC
Link km

Imo, if you're dumb enough to fly a JF/freighter during a war you deserve to lose it Lol

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#4 - 2017-05-16 13:56:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Scrubby The Janitor
Vipsan; Was reported first on reddit 8 days ago.

Dom; As far as I know there is no connection between wardecks and people getting bumped of a high sec gate when warping to it.
You could look at the jump freighter losses lately, spesificly the that are close to jita and getting dunked on the high sec gate. Maybe you find a way to lol more at me but I do susspect you did not fully understand what I were talking about.
Vipsan Agrippa
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#5 - 2017-05-16 14:20:15 UTC
Kek!! I must rush to inform Henny this is worse than the sky falling.

Scrubby best you quickly relay said info to General Discussion ( Ladies Lounge).


Hurry now times wasting....
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Dom Arkaral
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#6 - 2017-05-16 14:30:33 UTC
Scrubby The Janitor wrote:
Vipsan; Was reported first on reddit 8 days ago.

Dom; As far as I know there is no connection between wardecks and people getting bumped of a high sec gate when warping to it.
You could look at the jump freighter losses lately, spesificly the that are close to jita and getting dunked on the high sec gate. Maybe you find a way to lol more at me but I do susspect you did not fully understand what I were talking about.

Do you have proof that those JFs were bumped on their way in and not when trying to warp OFF the gate? (The ones in highsec)

It's obviously easier to wait for it to jump gate and bump it on the other side..

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#7 - 2017-05-16 14:52:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Scrubby The Janitor
Well I assume people are not stupid enogh to jump into low sec with a jump freighter when they can cyno to a upwell stucture. Did you look at any of the killmails; https://zkillboard.com/group/902/

You are correct in that its eacye to bump someone afteter they jump a gate, but when people cyno to an upwell structure in low sec then warps to jump a high sec gate dies before managing to jump. Granted you could say that some might be bad and warp at range, but there it does happen somewhat more often that you would expect.

Also to point out that some of theese systems dont have ha station so it not the classic super gank on a jf aliging off, the killmails spesifficly does say on the gate
Vipsan Agrippa
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#8 - 2017-05-16 14:59:23 UTC
If anyone can stop these shenanigans its Dom.


I know my powers are great, but I hand this one over to you Dommy.
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#9 - 2017-05-16 15:01:23 UTC
Scrubby The Janitor wrote:
Well I assume people are not stupid enogh to jump into low sec with a jump freighter when they can cyno to a upwell stucture. Did you look at any of the killmails; https://zkillboard.com/group/902/

You are correct in that its eacye to bump someone afteter they jump a gate, but when people cyno to an upwell structure in low sec then warps to jump a high sec gate dies before managing to jump. Granted you could say that some might be bad and warp at range, but there it does happen somewhat more often that you would expect.

Also to point out that some of theese systems dont have ha station so it not the classic super gank on a jf aliging off, the killmails spesifficly does say on the gate

It might say that the km is on the gate, but it doesn't say which direction he was headed to..
Don't underestimate human stupidity, as that accounts for most losses in any ship

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#10 - 2017-05-16 16:38:07 UTC
Are you jelly that someone found bigger fish to fry in Ignotten then cyno frigs? I did notice that your alliance is top killer in that system, so instead of taking my word for it you could ask "Lillie Naari". He seems to spend a lot of time killing mostly cyno ships in there that usually cyno up on the same grid at the gate.

Anyways, im at the point where I dont rly care what you belive or deny I came here hoping to get a conclution from CCP if this is considderd an exploit or fair use of game mecanics to bump someone of a gate that they are warping to
Vipsan Agrippa
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#11 - 2017-05-16 16:50:25 UTC
You are ok Scrubby its we who are the asses. At first I thought you were Code supporter throwing out a Dorothy Dixer.

Yes Dom is a entitled generation ganker, not willing to build anything, but gank what others created. Not happy with just ganking he runs a website dedicated to humiliating and ridiculing his victims.
But woe betide anyone who makes him or his ilk cry. He is the first to run to the ISD's for protection. What a pisss weak generation he represents.



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#12 - 2017-05-16 16:54:11 UTC
Scrubby The Janitor wrote:
Are you jelly that someone found bigger fish to fry in Ignotten then cyno frigs? I did notice that your alliance is top killer in that system, so instead of taking my word for it you could ask "Lillie Naari". He seems to spend a lot of time killing mostly cyno ships in there that usually cyno up on the same grid at the gate.

Anyways, im at the point where I dont rly care what you belive or deny I came here hoping to get a conclution from CCP if this is considderd an exploit or fair use of game mecanics to bump someone of a gate that they are warping to

This is C&P, CCP rarely comes here.
If you really want an answer from them, send a petition.. instead of coming on here crying when people tell you new facts Cool

There's nothing to be Jelly of lol, we're still the top highsec content providers Roll

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#13 - 2017-05-16 16:56:18 UTC
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
You are ok Scrubby its we who are the asses. At first I thought you were Code supporter throwing out a Dorothy Dixer.

Yes Dom is a entitled generation ganker, not willing to build anything, but gank what others created. Not happy with just ganking he runs a website dedicated to humiliating and ridiculing his victims.
But woe betide anyone who makes him or his ilk cry. He is the first to run to the ISD's for protection. What a pisss weak generation he represents.



SmileSmileStraight

your ignorance shows Nitshe
shame your Nitshe toon can't post here no more heh Blink

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Vipsan Agrippa
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#14 - 2017-05-16 17:29:17 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
You are ok Scrubby its we who are the asses. At first I thought you were Code supporter throwing out a Dorothy Dixer.

Yes Dom is a entitled generation ganker, not willing to build anything, but gank what others created. Not happy with just ganking he runs a website dedicated to humiliating and ridiculing his victims.
But woe betide anyone who makes him or his ilk cry. He is the first to run to the ISD's for protection. What a pisss weak generation he represents.



SmileSmileStraight

your ignorance shows Nitshe
shame your Nitshe toon can't post here no more heh Blink




I only wish Nitshe was one of mine, he had that je ne sais quoi. And a very manly tank-top.
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Scrubby The Janitor
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#15 - 2017-05-16 17:55:15 UTC
"There's nothing to be Jelly of lol, we're still the top highsec content providers"

Let me guess, if someone brings a fight to your high sec you are quick to de-agress and store your ships in a neutrall bowhead. Before you gank something you have it cargo/ship scanned with some eveprasial fu to se if this will net a profit or not. You might bring more content to high sec that im ignorant of since i have limited intest in it. Im just a janitor with the common impression that high sec pirates are risk adverse carebears... But feel free to chest beat over the finer details about only taking fights where noone fights back and enlighten me about how it makes you looks strong :)
Dom Arkaral
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#16 - 2017-05-16 18:07:02 UTC
Scrubby The Janitor wrote:
"There's nothing to be Jelly of lol, we're still the top highsec content providers"

Let me guess, if someone brings a fight to your high sec you are quick to de-agress and store your ships in a neutrall bowhead. Before you gank something you have it cargo/ship scanned with some eveprasial fu to se if this will net a profit or not. You might bring more content to high sec that im ignorant of since i have limited intest in it. Im just a janitor with the common impression that high sec pirates are risk adverse carebears... But feel free to chest beat over the finer details about only taking fights where noone fights back and enlighten me about how it makes you looks strong :)

No tinfoil hat is thick enough for you hahah

There's a difference between being risk-averse and knowing that you can't take a fight ;)

After all, some of us like to do other stuff than F1 overkill..

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#17 - 2017-05-16 18:30:08 UTC
Aww man here I was hoping for some insight to your content creation, but all I got out of it was; "Its not f1 overkill when you have calulated exactly how many catalysts you need for a gank"

Also why on earth would I use a tinfoil hat? That just makes it eacyer for ailiens to read my brain :P
Noragen Neirfallas
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#18 - 2017-05-16 19:49:56 UTC
So is there a specific instance you are talking about or are you just assuming people warped to a gate and got bumped?

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#19 - 2017-05-16 20:24:39 UTC
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#20 - 2017-05-17 10:35:17 UTC
Scrubby The Janitor wrote:
blah blah blah



So wardec CODE and find out just how much they suck, sport.

You'll easily defeat them.

Yup.

They'll all run off to play World of Warships, you betcha.

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