Science & Industry

My crystal ball is as accurate as any.

One-man passive income operations will be gutted, regardless of security. There are a LOT of these, arguably nearly all of the current installations.

What will really make or break the system will be the yield, and whether a single moon will yield multiple materials (that's desperately needed in nulsec).

I can't imagine any way to phase the structures in without affecting the market, and the market could go either way depending on the above.

Largely, it boils down to risk vs reward. If moon mining in lowsec is profitable, people will figure out a way to do it - probably by creating alliances that can defend their installations same as nullsec. The paradigm will change - people will adapt.

CCP have stated that it will not be a gradual transition. On patch day POS stops working and blueprints for the new structures and service modules will be seeded. Unless they change their mind, we'll be relying on stockpiles for a couple of weeks until product from the new structures reaches the market.

This is already impacting prices for moon materials and advanced components.

We live in interesting times - which is why many of us continue to enjoy the game. New problems to solve.

That would defiantly help breathe some new life into low. More people the better. More pew for the pvp, more reward for the indy guys.

If someone is willing to pay losses and 300M ISK/h on top , I'm willing to offer my support (can fly Barges and Orca).

OFC at this juncture we have no idea how much yield the moon-chunks have. Or if there will be new mining modules to affect it.

Perhaps Rorquals will be utilized heavily now.

huge gypsy-style corporations and partnerships between hi sec miners and alphas looking to get ahead

as refineries detonate payloads into mine fields (this occurring on a periodic but projectable nature), low sec corporations will need to encourage members, friendlies or contractors to suck up the noo-moon-goo and deliver it to the 'owners'

Doing all this in a cost effective manner is the puzzle we all get to solve

Interesting options around the new log system that tracks who mines what from your field. Opportunities for regularly scheduled defense fleets and gate control camps. Great opportunities for piracy and conflict.

Markets across new eden will be disrupted and shaken up, like a snowglobe of moons, and disrupted markets/playstyles.

Can't wait till winter

I don't know a lot about the new moon mining but. If the structure will be able to show logs of who mines the goo,will the structure make people pay a tax if they are not part of the alliance/corporation. Maybe random idea but it could work. Make people pay a certain amount of isk (decided by structure owner) to mine the goo, if the pilot cannot pay then they would stealing and the structure is allowed to engage. Good idea? Alliances could invest in providing the structures and just like the other structures getting payed for the services,make some cash of the users. Competing for the lowest taxes for the certain areas.

Well if someone is in the refinery citadel, they could man the weapons and protect and the mining fleet. The porpoise could provide logistics to help keep the fleet alive while the person manning the weapons on the refinery stops the attacking fleet.

But I agree, we really won't know how things will work till they come out.

Well... maybe.

Single person moon-goo operations are today a way to fund solo/small group lowsec piracy w/out relying on nullsec ratting alts or FW militia LP. Sure, it's pretty much a given that the incoming changes will alter the demographics of lowsec. But it's going to get harder to be an independent lowsec operator. Which is too bad since lowsec has for years been a spawning ground for solo pvp'ers who then go on to nullsec hunting and flying tackle for fleets. It would be a shame to lose that ecosystem.

I'm looking forward to the challenge as well. But my definition of 'the challenge' might be different from yours. To me, the problem will be to figure out how to fund pvp w/out having to shoot stupid red crosses (whether that's in wh, "mission", incursion or otherwise).

Will it be possible, come the winter, to make a modest pirate's living w/out mining or other menial drudgery? We'll see.

Has any dev mentioned what one of these mining rigs will do if anchored at a moon inside a wormhole

I seem to remember mention of gas refining in a wormhole but will it be able to create a mini asteroid belt with a spread of standard ore minus the moon goo ?

If not ...why not (lore-wise lack of comms to known space would also prevent refining T3 )