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Seeking Investors to expand my manufacturing operations

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Mini Mupah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2017-04-03 23:01:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Mini Mupah
Hello all,

I am a solo player that has begun manufacturing in earnest and am looking to expand my operations. To do this I seek investors on a project by project basis. I manufacture from components or from raw depending on how large the project is. I track my accounts and estimates by my own means and I do not use IskPerHour (Even though it is a stunning tool).

I am a studying bookkeeper IRL and have seriously enjoyed setting up a personalised Excel workbook to manage my operations from invention to manufacture and freighting to market. I have collated my first month's earnings in a report that is viewable here.

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p720/Mupersega/report_zps95qjxpj8.png

Keep in mind that these earnings have come about from 1.5 bill in capital, ONE industrialist character, one hauler alt and a focus primarily on one market (Tech II Frigs). I have five alt slots that I am training for specialised production in other areas.

I am looking to establish connections with investors to whom I would like to offer payouts as follows.

Projects below 200 million ISK
- 14 Day return of 4%
i.e project cost of 192,000,000 = 199,680,000 two weeks later paid in full.

Projects between 200 - 500 million ISK
- 21 Day return of 7%

Projects above 500 million ISK
- 28 Day return of 10%

As you can see, a higher cost project does mean a slower pay out but a larger one. Note that while I have projects planned there is no limit to how many you can sponsor.

If upon beginning a project you would like information, I can tell you what your money is going towards and show you where in production your project is up to.

In some cases if the stock has moved, I will be able to offer an early pay out. I can guarantee though that regardless of stock moving or not you will receive your 14,21, or 28 day payout arranged on commencement.

I look forward to hearing from anyone with questions, queries or advice. I will also open up my spreadsheets for protected viewing to serious investors.

I am currently a small time player but with your assistance I am excited about the opportunities moving forward.

Ciao Kindly, MupahCorp.


MupahCorp Investment Summary
Check this out for investment information^^
Jeronica
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2017-04-04 01:16:57 UTC
Can you offer collateral, or some background on yourself/main character? From your return rates, I assume no. <1bil loans are fairly easy to get, however if you're going to be having 10-20 500m projects you can see why we'd be concerned.

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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#3 - 2017-04-04 04:43:55 UTC
Would like pledge 20B

@JerryTPepridge

Mini Mupah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2017-04-04 04:45:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mini Mupah
Ty Jeronica,

In all honesty I can't offer collateral, if I could I would be using it to fund larger projects for greater returns. I understand that the position is a hard one to be in as an investor and that I am asking a lot.

What I can offer is communications, transparency and hopefully content. In regards to my history I run a few accounts, some are dormant.

I began eve playing as a combat player trying to run missions and dabbling in Faction warfare- I quit. I moved on to exploration and enjoyed that play style immensely; Unfortunately I don't have the time to spend on long expedtions like I used to, plus I didn't enjoy the need to always be on my toes.

Industry was something I thought I would do in the background but it fits me like a glove. The challenge, the tracking, the planning but most of all just the romance of being a mass producer. That lil' ol' me can be a creator of things that hundreds of other players will then take and use for whatever purpose, good or evil.

A challenge for me has been stopping myself from just buying plex and increasing capital that way, I want to engage with the player base. This topic was an exercise for me to not only raise capital but to establish contacts. I am bottle-necked and am looking for mentorship and/or support to see just how far I can take my hub resupply objectives. Am I going about it the wrong way? Yeh probably. But it's my way.

Ultimately, I will continue doing what I'm doing but it will just take a little longer by myself.

Thankyou for the reply and could you tell me, how does one normally collateralize outside the normal hauling contract scenario?

Ciao Kindly, MupahCorp
Cista2
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2017-04-04 05:54:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
There is no such thing as a corp named Mupahcorp.

You have made some interesting errors which make me think this is not an intended scam. (For instance, no professional scammer would start by posting in the wrong forum).

I believe you have made a mistake in shaping your interest rates. Investors get 10% per month on 2-week investments, but only 7% per month on the riskier 4-week investments.

Anyway, I have now sent you 199 mil ISK for a 2-week investment. Please send me an email of what you will spend the money on.
I hope you are sincere and will stay around for long.

Edit: Join the CCP-lounge if you haven't already, people make lots of friends there apparently.

My channel: "Signatures" -

Cista2
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-04-04 06:00:55 UTC
Re. collateral, you can use anything that has value as collateral. For example, if you feel you have built too many Ibis so sell, you can use those.

In the simple case of a direct collateral, you simply contract the ships or minerals or bpos to an investor for the amount of money that has been agreed on. After the investment period is over, the contract is reversed with interest added.

My channel: "Signatures" -

YeuxVerts Belle
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#7 - 2017-04-05 16:55:38 UTC
I'm sending you a 250M isk loan. Use it wisely.

The above message presents my opinions on the topic at hand. If there is a conflict between my views and reality, consider reality to be correct until proven otherwise.

Jeronica
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2017-04-05 21:28:39 UTC
Would you be willing to hand your API over to a trusted auditor?

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Mini Mupah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2017-04-06 06:35:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mini Mupah
Hello again Jeronica,

K before I start, thank you to those that have already invested. I have ten minutes while I'm on break at work. An audit sounds great but what is that?I feel as uneasy about handing out my api as others are about investing. So I will not do that until I know more about processes and what one can actually do with my api.

Moving on I will be updating my original topic with how much has been invested, how much paid out, and how many payouts are early. I have the capacity of course to name investors but for now I will not name anyone should that be a privacy issue. I have also established reporting capacity per investor that I believe will bring a polish and incentive as the profits start accruing.

Thank you also to Cista2 for pointing out the discrepancy in returns at 5-6-7 percents. I will change my original posting to 4% 7% and 10% respectively so that there is reason to invest larger amounts rather than multiple small ones.

Thank you again for your input, ciao kindly MupahCorp
Garen Sobek
Doomheim
#10 - 2017-04-06 16:59:56 UTC
Mini Mupah wrote:
Hello again Jeronica,

K before I start, thank you to those that have already invested. I have ten minutes while I'm on break at work. An audit sounds great but what is that?I feel as uneasy about handing out my api as others are about investing. So I will not do that until I know more about processes and what one can actually do with my api.

Moving on I will be updating my original topic with how much has been invested, how much paid out, and how many payouts are early. I have the capacity of course to name investors but for now I will not name anyone should that be a privacy issue. I have also established reporting capacity per investor that I believe will bring a polish and incentive as the profits start accruing.

Thank you also to Cista2 for pointing out the discrepancy in returns at 5-6-7 percents. I will change my original posting to 4% 7% and 10% respectively so that there is reason to invest larger amounts rather than multiple small ones.

Thank you again for your input, ciao kindly MupahCorp


Giving someone an API key allows them to see certain information regarding your characters. Note that an API key doesn't allow anyone to see information about your actual account or any of your personal information connected to your account. When you create an API key you can also choose what information about a character is actually included in it. For example in this case you would probably want an API key that shows the amount of isk in your wallet, all your buy and sell orders, along with all your manufacturing and research jobs. Some players might also want you to include access to your in game mail so they can see who you have been talking to.

As far as an audit goes, this is merely where a trusted person by both parties takes a look at that API key and makes sure the information matches the story you are telling. You say you are manufacturing items, therefor a person would look to see what if any manufacturing jobs you have going and if the profits from those jobs would match what you are promising.

If you and your investors do agree to an audit, I would be willing to conduct one free of charge. If your interested just send me a mail in game.
Cista2
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2017-04-06 20:48:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
Mini Mupah wrote:

Thank you also to Cista2 for pointing out the discrepancy in returns at 5-6-7 percents. I will change my original posting to 4% 7% and 10% respectively so that there is reason to invest larger amounts rather than multiple small ones.

Well color me purple and call me Wendy, did you just take my advise and offhandedly cut my expected returns down from 10% per month to 8%? Tsk, seems like I am the eternal pushower on this forum Shocked
That's what you get from being nice Blink

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Cista2
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2017-04-15 05:05:27 UTC
My 2-week investment has matured and my ISK and interest sent to me. Thanks!

I am now sending Mupah 300 mil ISK for a 3-week investment/sponsorship.

My channel: "Signatures" -

Mini Mupah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2017-04-16 02:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Mini Mupah
Happy to announce that as you can see above, investments are maturing and people are getting their returns.

Also happy that my next manufacturing alt is coming online. I have begun work streamlining my means of job tracking and hopefully it will be a lot more elegant and scalable so as to handle increased investment.

I will be updating my original post with with some information on current outstanding investments, total paid and total investor profits.

Ty again

Ciao Kindly, MupahCorp
Jeronica
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2017-04-16 14:09:52 UTC
How are you creating projects? Give me a holler when you have a new one to invest in.

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Cista2
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2017-04-16 15:12:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
Jeronica wrote:
How are you creating projects? Give me a holler when you have a new one to invest in.

I believe it is just production lines, as those that are listed in the spreadsheet in the top of the thread here.
When receiving a "sponsorship", she will message you what the money is invested in.

My channel: "Signatures" -

Mini Mupah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2017-04-17 02:29:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Mini Mupah
Jeronica wrote:
How are you creating projects? Give me a holler when you have a new one to invest in.


Hi,

Oh, I call them projects simply because I plan my manufacturing job by job and some things that I want to tackle are beyond my operating capital. In my planning if I know I want to do a run of 20 scalpels I will lock it in my tracking and wait until I have investment to make that terrific idea a reality...(investor money is used to fund safer jobs btw)

I benefit most from investments falling between 200mill and 500mill as with my average daily return I can payout these amounts without the need to scrimp and save. As time goes on I hope that my turn over will increase such that larger investments will be easier to pay out. Should large investment become a regular occurrence I will have to set up a budgeting system to ensure cash flow.

As a side, I have posted a photo of my invention tracking that is available at the photobucket link in my original post (scroll). The workings of it are hidden but you don't need to be very smart to figure it out. This was the first iteration and am streamlining for my other manufacturers.

SOOOOO

Jeronica, I have a 240mill job I have wanted to get on the way, you in?

Ciao Kindly, MupahCorp
Donna Dolore
Delirium Trigger Industries
#17 - 2017-04-17 23:06:24 UTC
i want in on the 240 million job sending you isk when i log in , dont disappoint me
Donna Dolore
Delirium Trigger Industries
#18 - 2017-04-17 23:20:59 UTC
240 million isk sent, im taking a gamble, dont let me down, i would like info on the project. good luck
Nouva MacGyver
Jedrzejczyk Integrated Capital
Minerva Exalt Holdings
#19 - 2017-04-22 18:06:22 UTC
Do you have an ideal amount of capital investment that you'd like to add to your current ones? Would be happy to fill a billion upwards if it's something you can work with. Do reply in this thread for transparency.
Cista2
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2017-04-22 19:41:31 UTC
Nouva MacGyver wrote:
Do you have an ideal amount of capital investment that you'd like to add to your current ones? Would be happy to fill a billion upwards if it's something you can work with. Do reply in this thread for transparency.

Hey Nouva, there is now a link in the OP here that shows (I believe) the size of all projects that are planned.
From looking at that, it seems one project of size 500 mil is the only larger one that she is planing.

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