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[March] Character's Total Net Worth estimation

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C C P Alliance
#1 - 2017-03-09 16:31:59 UTC
Hi everyone,

Team Genesis is adding a little feature to your Character Sheet that estimates how much your character is worth in the game. This Total Net Worth number is a sum of all the ISK you own and the estimated value of your assets, and it casts some light on your character progress in EVE. Here is a screenshot:



The tooltip provides a breakdown of the Total Net Worth in the following categories:

  • Wallet Balance: ISK you own, as normally shown in the Wallet
  • Combined Assets Estimated Value: Sum of the estimated market price for all items you own in the universe. We are including assets in stations and structures, items in space and items in outstanding sell orders and contracts. Corp-owned items are excluded.
  • Contract Escrow: ISK in escrow in outstanding buy contracts issued by your character.
  • Market Escrow: ISK in escrow in outstanding buy orders issued by your character.


The icons in the tooltip are actually buttons, each opening up its NEOCOM window - so you can use this tooltip as a navigator to browse through the different metrics of your financial status in the game.

We had initially planned to release a simpler version of this feature, intended for the March release next Tuesday. However, due to online enthusiasm, we collected a lot of feedback and decided to spend an extra bit of time developing this counter. In particular, many of you insisted on how useful it would be to include items in space in the assets calculation (your ship, items in your cargo, fitted modules, drones, etc.).

So, very soon™ we will deliver an improved version of the Total Net Worth in a point release that will include items in space.

Cheers,

Team Genesis
Exodus.
#2 - 2017-03-09 17:49:21 UTC
Legit shmit
#3 - 2017-03-09 17:55:21 UTC
Nice

Can we have the same for corporation asset ?
#4 - 2017-03-09 18:28:15 UTC
Woo! \o/

Does this include Corp and/or Alliance level assets if the player is in a role that gives them access to such things? (Like, could I open up the Corp/Alliance management window and view a similar number there?)

If not that would be a great thing to add when that UI eventually gets nuked from orbit and something better rebuilt on the ashes.

Also, kind of an odd case, is LP in any way factored into the equation here? Kind of expecting the answer to be no, just because of how hard LP is to value as a player, let alone for a system like this.

EDIT: also, thread needs a sticky!
#5 - 2017-03-09 21:29:48 UTC
Buttons on tooltips make it so the tooltip doesn't go away easily even when you don't care what the tooltip says. In this case, every single time you open your skill queue, and then go to click the x to close the window, that tooltip is going to pop up blocking that x. It takes the single most common common thing in EVE (updating your skill queue) and makes it harder because of an obscure feature that nobody really requested to begin with, would probably get just as much use if it was API only, and where there have been API derived equivalents for as long as I've been playing. That one tooltip is the very definition of bad UI. The standard dev response "we made a terrible thing, but we made another terrible thing to make the other terrible thing less obvious" in this case taking the form of tooltip delays is... I don't even know what. Embarrassing? Amateurish? Depressing? Halfassed?

So, no. No buttons in tooltips, ever. If anything, put a ? icon next to the number that you can click on to show a full breakdown with associated links.

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#6 - 2017-03-10 03:53:47 UTC
So, I actually got on Sisi to test the behavior and it doesn't seem to be working on there currently, am I missing something? As in, I'm not seeing the Total Net Worth counter at all on my character sheet.
Corpse Collectors Group
#7 - 2017-03-10 10:33:01 UTC
Is this total net worth going to be accessible via an API call?
Solyaris Chtonium
#8 - 2017-03-10 11:24:36 UTC
I wonder if one will be able to see these numbers through API. Honestly I think these things should stay private.
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2017-03-10 11:37:56 UTC
But now I can see now much isk I have locked away in null stationsStraight
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2017-03-10 12:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: SynthiaGreey
One way to show people how poor they are.
#11 - 2017-03-10 12:51:52 UTC
Looks good.
The Bastard Cartel
#12 - 2017-03-10 12:53:20 UTC
Dictateur Imperator wrote:
Nice

Can we have the same for corporation asset ?


This would be nice.

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#13 - 2017-03-10 13:13:45 UTC
Any possibility of adding a checkbox to make player networth visible on public character sheet.

inb4 that'll make even more players prone to loss aversion

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#14 - 2017-03-10 13:59:31 UTC
Nice

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#15 - 2017-03-10 14:11:15 UTC
mkint wrote:
Buttons on tooltips make it so the tooltip doesn't go away easily even when you don't care what the tooltip says. In this case, every single time you open your skill queue, and then go to click the x to close the window, that tooltip is going to pop up blocking that x. It takes the single most common common thing in EVE (updating your skill queue) and makes it harder because of an obscure feature that nobody really requested to begin with, would probably get just as much use if it was API only, and where there have been API derived equivalents for as long as I've been playing. That one tooltip is the very definition of bad UI. The standard dev response "we made a terrible thing, but we made another terrible thing to make the other terrible thing less obvious" in this case taking the form of tooltip delays is... I don't even know what. Embarrassing? Amateurish? Depressing? Halfassed?

So, no. No buttons in tooltips, ever. If anything, put a ? icon next to the number that you can click on to show a full breakdown with associated links.

A popup that would block essential parts of the character sheet (like the close button) would indeed be terrible. But from the screenshot it looks like you need to click the Question mark Icon to actually get this new pop up, making it unlikely to show up accidentially when you try to close the character sheet.
RvB - BLUE Republic
#16 - 2017-03-10 14:18:58 UTC
Cool.

But why not just put the assets value in the assets window?
#17 - 2017-03-10 14:19:41 UTC
This is a pretty cool feature. It would be useful if it would also show corporation net worth!

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C C P Alliance
#18 - 2017-03-10 14:22:46 UTC
Thank you for your feedback! Please remember to stay constructive. If you think that something is bad, please point out exactly what and why you think that this might be a bad idea or could cause problems. The better your explanation, the easier it is for the developers to work on improvements.

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#19 - 2017-03-10 14:33:56 UTC
Looks good !!

Though some integration or expansion for corp / alliance assets would definitely be appreciated
#20 - 2017-03-10 14:38:43 UTC
Love this!

Would love to have the same for directors at a wallet division granularity.
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