Ships & Modules

Hi,

I'm currently running level 3 security missions with the Prophecy below. I want to sit back, passive tank, loot and salvage. The way I do this:
1 - Warp in
2 - Drop Moble Tractor Unit
3 - Get aggro
4 - Send drones
5 - Salvage
6 - Fill cargo hold and exit

The problem is that I need to fly out for repairs 1 or 2 times. When my armor is at 25% my capacitor is also around 25%. It lasts 2 minurtes.
What's the best way to improve my ship, without spending 10's of millions ISK?
Also, I don't want to use nanite or cap boosters. Is that even possible?

- Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
- Prototype Energized Kinetic Membrane I
- Prototype Energized Thermal Membrane I
- AE-K Compact Drone Damage Amplifier
- Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
- 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
- Damage Control II

- 50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
- Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
- Drone Navigation Computer I
- Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender

- Prototype Cloaking Device I
- 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun
- Salvager I
- Salvager I
- Drone Link Augmentor I

- Medium Drone Durability Enhancer I
- Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
- Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I

- Hobgoblin I x10
- Hammerhead I x5

- Guardian Iron Charge M x150

Okay... a few things right away...


Shield OR Armor tank. Not both.

The reason for this is that it is better to focus your ship's limited resources on a specific tank and make it as strong as possible rather than split your ship's resources and have multiple mediocre tanks.


The same can be said with regards to Active (see: "actively repairing") and Buffer tanks (see: increase HP values as much as possible).

The hard and fast rule is that you should choose between beefing up your HP values (which helps against massive amounts of damage in a short period of them... such as in PvP) or increasing the speed and power of your active tank (which helps you last long periods against sustained damage... such as in PvE).


With the Prophecy... you want to armor tank it.
Why?

- It has more low-power slots than medium-power slots
- it has more native armor HP than shield HP
- the ship itself has a bonus for increased damage resistance in armor (hint: read the ship traits in the info box).



That cloaking device... unless you are doing things in Low or Null security space, there is no need for that module (as you are relatively safe in High security space).
In fact, that cloaking device will hurt your ship by reducing your ship's targeting speed (even when inactive).


The rest of your high-power slots are not terribly bad... especially since you mentioned that you wish to salvage while you kill things.
However, I should note that with Salvaging Drones and a Mobile Tractor Unit, salvaging goes by pretty quickly.
(hint: when all the hostiles in an area have been eliminated, unlock any targets and deploy your Salvage drones... then tell the drones to "Salvage"... the drones will proceed to automatically salvage any and all white colored wrecks in the area without further input)




Now... here is an arguably better fit:
(note: for simplicity's sake, I will be using all Tech 2 modules. Please feel free to downgrade them as necessary if you cannot fit them)


[Prophecy, New Setup 1]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermal Hardener II (or whatever hardener is strongest against the NPC in question)
Armor Kinetic Hardener II (or whatever hardener is strongest against the NPC in question)
Reactive Armor Hardener
Damage Control II

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
50MN Microwarpdrive II
Medium Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Salvager II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Curator II x3
Salvage Drone I x5


Cap Booster 400 x16
Mobile Tractor Unit x1


Please note how I have removed all shield modules and replaced the rigs.
The rigs are there to increase the speed (Nano Acclerator) and repair amount (Auxiliary Nano Pump) of your single armor repairer... making it MUCH more efficient.

I have also removed the armor plate.
Not only does it slow you down, but it contributes nothing towards your ability to repair your armor.
This opens up a low-power slot that I have used to increase drone damage.

The rest of your armor tank looks fine... but please note that it does have it's limits. It can only repair so much damage in so much time... so use other methods to mitigate damage and help your tank out a bit.
Examples:
- Range control: Stay as far out as possible and avoid getting caught in NPC swarms.
- Keeping up speed: If you are moving, you are harder to hit. This reduces incoming damage.
- Kill the high-dps NPCs first: Self explanatory.


On the medium power slots:
I prefer the capacitor booster as it forces you to learn how to micromanage your capacitor power, tank, and optimize target selection (which helps immensely if or when you get into PvP).

You will have to carry extra charges around with you (limiting your cargo space a bit)... but this is a small price to pay for having capacitor power literally on demand and effectively being energy neutralizer-proof (see: Blood Raider NPCs).

The Microwarpdrive is self explanatory.
The Micro Jump Drive is something special. It will literally "teleport" you 100km in the direction you are flying in... allowing you to make a quick escape from the NPCs if something goes horribly, horribly wrong.
It takes 10 seconds to spool up and is not affected by (most) NPC warp disruption.

The Omnidirectional Tracking link is there because, when in doubt about Drone enhancements, choose damage application over speed.
You can add a "script" to the module to boost Drone optimal range at the cost of tracking... or vice versa.


The high-power slots... well... I like doing extra damage whenever possible. It helps against the really strong NPCs and kills hordes of NPCs faster.

I can salvage and pick through the remains at my leisure once everything is dead.

ShahFluffers, thank you for your help. It's helpful.

Thanks to you as well, Andrew Indy.

With the help of both your information I changed my fitting to the one below. It works better. With a little more training (and maybe a tech II module here and there) I bet it will work great for me.
- Removing the cloak was indeed a big improvement for targeting.
- I needed the tank to be a little more passive than suggested. Otherwise I'd need cap boosters and indeed, they take a lot of valuable cargo space.
- The missiles do very little damage and I want more range, so I'll train the skills and switch to heavy missiles. The missiles are only to assist the drones when they're chewing on bigger.

Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Damage Control II
AE-K Compact Drone Damage Amplifier
AE-K Compact Drone Damage Amplifier

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Drone Navigation Computer I

Light Missile Launcher I
Light Missile Launcher I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I

Hammerhead I x5
Hobgoblin I x10
Inferno Light Missile

Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Large Cap Battery II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Salvager II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I




No DCU, as imo it's a pvp module
In pve you should not be planning to need %resistance on structure
the 3rd DDA gives more dps to the drones
whilst the scripted mid slots enable them to apply that dps

RLML's to deal with frigates & supplement damage on larger ships
cap life is up to around 8 minutes, which should be sufficient for most things

I prefer a 2+1 hardener layout for tanking
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage
has the info you need on missions

Get rid of cloak, costs you locking time.
Train some skills and start putting t2 stuff on it. train your armor skills up first

Then explain to the class why they have to be rapid jeebus launchers?

You could also use light launchers, doing the same thing while your drones are on "autopilot". Or rocket launchers since all those frigates will be orbiting you at 5-8km.

Sorry

But I couldn't find a picture for you to colour in that explained it.