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looking for minning op protection

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Fabian Mango
JLCQ
#1 - 2017-01-28 18:30:47 UTC
tital says it all just honestly looking to see if there is any corps that offer these services for certain types of minning ops
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
CODE.
#2 - 2017-01-28 23:36:41 UTC
Define 'certain types' please.


Also...hisec? Lowsec? Null? Wormhole?

This is actually important, you know.

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And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Fabian Mango
JLCQ
#3 - 2017-01-29 00:29:09 UTC
i was more asking just what is available out there, if at all. low-null sec and worm hole mainly is what id be looking for
Starrakatt
Celtic Anarchy
Dead Terrorists
#4 - 2017-01-29 08:04:58 UTC
Fabian Mango wrote:
i was more asking just what is available out there, if at all. low-null sec and worm hole mainly is what id be looking for

Nobody does it, as in, going to sit in a belt with you, with combat/logi ships, hours long doing nothing in case your enemy shows up. Too boring.

However, you could move your mining op in a mercenary outfit's home system, or next door, and have them keep an eye there to intervene if your enemy shows up. Or some variation on this.

Bottom line is, no one is going to specifically go and sit in a belt with you.
Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
#5 - 2017-01-29 08:22:46 UTC
Having security while mining is a good idea.
Unfortunately, finding someone who's going to do it for pay is going to be tough.
It's not just the soul crushing boredom that's a factor, there's also the matter of activity times matching up between the hired help and the mining op.
The soul crushing boredom factor is not to be overlooked though.

Starrakatt's suggestion is probably the best when it comes to outside help, pay to do your thing in the back yard of someone scary.
Really though, your absolute best bet is to handle this internally.
You corp mates are the ones who are going to be invested in the project, so set up a division of labor.
One group watches paint dry (mining), and the other group watches the other group watch paint dry (security).

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

ForeWarned Erkkinen
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-01-29 09:30:31 UTC
@ op our mains had a similar issue until we contacted a wh corp. We come to an agreement with the wh guys and its been sweet for over 2yrs. Lost 6 hulks and an orca in those 2 yrs but made several billion in ores and more with pi as well as made some good friends. Just a thought
Fabian Mango
JLCQ
#7 - 2017-01-29 18:59:00 UTC
the merc idea definitely sounds like the best bet, id like to handle it internally within my corp but lack of man power seems to be the biggest factor in it not coming together
Maekchu
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-01-30 00:17:53 UTC
Profits from lowsec mining is not high enough for you to be able to hire protection.

If you are really serious about mining, then your goal is to get in a alliance/corp and rely on their protection.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#9 - 2017-01-30 05:52:26 UTC
the answer is: FRIENDS! join a corp or alliance that can provide you with protection while you mine via its Standing Fleets.

failing that: find a dead-end system somewhere and stick a scout on the gate. it's astounding to consider how many mining fleets could have been saved if only they'd stuck a scout on the gate to give them vital warning of danger.

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2017-01-30 08:17:25 UTC
What system? And you would need to pay per hour

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Fabian Mango
JLCQ
#11 - 2017-01-30 12:32:24 UTC
is that a serious offer ? how much would you charge ? the system would depend on the costs involved
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2017-01-30 12:34:57 UTC
In order to get a realistic reply from anyone you're going to need to say where the mining is going to happen and what you expect to need protection from.

Without that information how could someone give you a quote?
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#13 - 2017-01-30 14:02:24 UTC
HS - protection from suicide gankers doesn't exist. Ship selection is your best option - skiff.

LS - in most places there will be some 'local' pvp types that pretty much allow or disallow anything on their turf. Be their friends or find someplace else to mine.

NPC null - There are a few places mining is doable, but you'll have to be ready to sit on the sidelines when folks pass through. Find an unused system and hope no one notices you.

SOV null - be assimilated or forget it.

WH - Join a wh corp that will accept indy folks. Join a wh alliance that takes indy corps (if keeping your corp whole is important to you). Find some cool guys and co-exist in a wh. You do your thing and they do theirs and you get free protection. OR claim your own wh.



Those are pretty much your options. Miner safety isn't really coded into the game. It never will be. Mercs sitting in a belt just in case just isn't going to happen. Players join merc corps for pew pew pew stuff, NOT sitting in a belt all day while you mine. You're asking a herd of cats to perform a synchronized swimming routine - they just aren't interested in that sort of activity.

Those are your choices. They all have some pros and cons. GL. If you're interested in exploring the wh stuff - send me a mail and I can probably get you in touch with some folks to talk to.
Luthor Ikkala
The Castle in the Sky
Fraternity.
#14 - 2017-01-30 14:56:26 UTC
Rent a sov null system it requires you to join an alliance but it could be worth it
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
Snuffed Out
#15 - 2017-01-30 15:24:26 UTC
i can provide protection for your mining fleet

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#16 - 2017-01-30 16:28:11 UTC
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Rent a sov null system it requires you to join an alliance but it could be worth it




Renting is for the weak and unimaginative. Shame upon you for advocating this destructive activity.
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2017-01-30 16:45:26 UTC
Fabian, you will not get any protection. The folks asking where you intend to mine are likely just looking to explode you themselves. The ones telling you that no one will sit there while you mine, or that theyll charge more than you can afford are telling you the truth.
Starrakatt
Celtic Anarchy
Dead Terrorists
#18 - 2017-01-30 22:29:01 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
the answer is: FRIENDS! join a corp or alliance that can provide you with protection while you mine via its Standing Fleets.

failing that: find a dead-end system somewhere and stick a scout on the gate. it's astounding to consider how many mining fleets could have been saved if only they'd stuck a scout on the gate to give them vital warning of danger.

Bolded sentences for emphasis.

This. THIS.
Hipqo
Tyde8
#19 - 2017-01-31 11:54:51 UTC
Unless you are multiboxing and making billions of isk, you wont be able to pay for protection like that.
People need alot of money to sit on standby, you cant really mine that kind of profit without a small army.

So yes, you could proberly find protection, but that would mean you arent making ISK at all, because of the pricetag that comes with "stand by proteciton".

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2017-01-31 18:48:06 UTC
I'd be happy to offer your mining op protection.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

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