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Stealth bombers

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BigBoss Sanchez
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-01-06 20:09:53 UTC
So as a noob, I've heard people going on about stealth bombing, but what actually is it? Is it just a ship type or a ship fit? And if so can any ship be fitted for the task?
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-01-06 20:21:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Very special and frigate size ship. Can warp cloaked and launch bombs, an area of effect anti-fleet and anti-capital ship weapon. Also can fit torpedos and can use covert jump-bridges. The drawback, it has paper tank and is slow as a brick.

Very fun ship to fly in fleets and solo. Join "Bombers Bar" for more about cloaky warfare.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Orakkus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-01-06 20:25:41 UTC
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:
So as a noob, I've heard people going on about stealth bombing, but what actually is it? Is it just a ship type or a ship fit? And if so can any ship be fitted for the task?


It's a particular class of ship, a Tech 2 frigate. It has the ability to cloak, and move and warp while cloaked. They use torpedoes (a battleship weapon) and bombs. Probably to get the best idea on these is to look up Bombers Bar on youtube. In the broadest sense, you have a group of stealth bombers, cloaked, wait for a target.. either in an asteroid belt or on a gate.. then you all decloak at one and attack using torpedoes.. or bomb depending on range, circumstance, and tactics.

Each race has a stealth bomber, which is bonused to their primary damage type:

Amarr: Purifier (EM)
Minmatar: Hound (Explosive)
Gallente: Nemesis (Thermal)
Caldari: Manticore (Kinetic)

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2017-01-06 20:28:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Tips pretty much summed up SBs.

Some additional notes:

- use of the Area of Effect bombs are restricted to 0.0 space
- Stealth Bombers excel at "ganking"... anything that Stealth Bombers can't gank in a short amount of time is a threat that can shred then in seconds.
- Stealth Bombers are "hyperspecialized" ships. No other ship can do what they can do.

- Even if you don't fly it often or don't want to fly it, it is worth the training.
Highly mobile "shadow gangs" and quite deadly and useful in certain situations.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2017-01-06 22:04:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Im also into that covert ops.

Besides Manticore is Falcon any good?

How are the other races Covert Ops ships?

What about Uni Bombers?

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

BigBoss Sanchez
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-01-06 22:29:40 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Im also into that covert ops.

Besides Manticore is Falcon any good?

How are the other races Covert Ops ships?

What about Uni Bombers?


Completely unrelated but did you used to play world of tanks?
Memphis Baas
#7 - 2017-01-06 22:35:17 UTC
The covert ops line of ships (covert ops frigates, recon cruisers, black ops battleships) are a bit different in that each race specializes in its own types of electronic warfare / jamming, so the ships end up doing different things from race to race.

The covert ops frigates are typically used for cloaky exploration and probing and are somewhat equivalent.

The stealth bomber frigates are used for ambush attacks against tightly packed groups of large ships, and the bombs for each race do different damage (EM, thermal, kinetic, explosive), so the whole fleet of bombers has to pick one type of bomber and one damage type, to match the enemy's expected vulnerabilities.

Recon cruisers combine stealth with electronic jamming, and they are quite different.

The Falcon does ECM jamming; a Falcon can uncloak and then completely paralyze you from 40-60 km away by permanently taking away your ability to target anything.

Arazu (Gallente) can uncloak and warp disrupt you from 40-60km (normal distance for warp disruption is 20km), and also reduce your targeting range or targeting speed. This wreaks havoc on any logistics repair ships you may have in your fleet, because they can't target you fast enough to repair you.

Rapier (Minmatar) can uncloak and webify you to almost 0 speed, again from extremely long range. You're not going to be able to move. In addition, a Rapier can target-paint you, and then the rest of their support fleet will shoot you full of missiles that do extra damage because of the target painter.

Pilgrim (Amarr) can uncloak and drain your capacitor empty from very long range. Normally energy neutralizers are 10-20km, this ship can do it from 40-60km. Many ships can't function without capacitor energy, so it's pretty nasty.

And finally, black ops battleships have the capability to open a bridge and send a whole fleet of covert ops ships to a covert ops cyno in enemy territory, basically creating the possibility of nasty roaming fleets that just suddenly uncloak in your back yard and shoot up all your miners and ratters and station facilities, then disappear under cloak again and/or jump out.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2017-01-06 22:38:02 UTC
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:


Completely unrelated but did you used to play world of tanks?



That was an awesome game.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2017-01-06 22:40:29 UTC
Sounds good.

Doin sneaky, devastating stuff from a distance.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2017-01-07 05:45:12 UTC
BlOps drop or Black Ops Hot Drop is what it's called when a Black Ops fleet bridges in.

It can go from one red in local to dozens on grid in a matter of a couple seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZyJ0q76Jg
That is a WINGSPAN video to kind of give you an idea of what happens.

All you need to do this is one ship with a covert cyno and on Black Ops BS. Every ship taking the bridge needs to be black ops capable.

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Skyweir Kinnison
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-01-07 09:49:28 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Sounds good.

Doin sneaky, devastating stuff from a distance.


I specialise in "sneaky, devastating stuff from a distance" with ECM/EWAR ships for my corporation (alongside logistics/healing). It's deeply satisfying and a significant force multiplier in fleets.

However, you must get used to being blown to tiny pieces early on. You will be high up on the enemy's 'Terminate With Extreme Prejudice list' if you stray in range.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2017-01-07 14:26:08 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
BlOps drop or Black Ops Hot Drop is what it's called when a Black Ops fleet bridges in.

It can go from one red in local to dozens on grid in a matter of a couple seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZyJ0q76Jg
That is a WINGSPAN video to kind of give you an idea of what happens.

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Hmm. Nice video, what happened?

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2017-01-07 16:23:14 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
BlOps drop or Black Ops Hot Drop is what it's called when a Black Ops fleet bridges in.

It can go from one red in local to dozens on grid in a matter of a couple seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZyJ0q76Jg
That is a WINGSPAN video to kind of give you an idea of what happens.

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Hmm. Nice video, what happened?

THey are just showing you what it's like to be sitting on the other end of the "Bat Phone". In all of those videos there was some pilot with a covert cyno field gen that found a victim and pointed them and then lit the cyno. He then yell out "cyno up" on teamspeak and the BlOPs BS bridges and then all of the black ops ships within range can jump through. Typically the BS will follow through when everyone else is done and they will take a cyno back home at the end.

What you are seeing on all of those clips is the view from the people sitting in the PoS waiting for the green light to jump.

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