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Sisters Of Eve

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Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-01-05 15:20:32 UTC
Should I upgrade to Omega before playing the story arc or after? Will I need to use ships that an Alpha cannot use? Is it just better to upgrade first and if so please tell me why. I have a month old Alpha with a million SP and have done all the Career Missions. I have 60M ISK to use if I need to and is this enough or will I need more?
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#2 - 2017-01-05 15:58:44 UTC
Nah, you should be fine.
The sisters arc is supposed to be doable by a newbro
Kazual Jayde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-01-05 16:00:31 UTC
You can do the arc in a cruiser easily.

Fast frigates really save time for a lot of the courier-type missions, though.
Black Locust
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2017-01-05 16:02:17 UTC
Hi

There is a good wiki on that mission series here : http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Blood-Stained_Stars

I have not done it personally, but from a quick scan of the wiki it looks like there is a lot of travel / courier missions. And the combat missions look pretty straight forward. The final one recommends a destroyer or cruiser, which should be no issue for you on an Alpha Clone.

ISK wise, whilst the individual rewards are not enormous by themselves, there are quite a few missions, so your balance will go up as you are running them. So the bankroll you have currently should be sufficient.

Whether or not you upgrade to an Omega clone is totally your choice, but I think you will be able to run the mission arc as an Alpha :)

hth
Kazual Jayde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-01-05 16:08:21 UTC
Mission rewards + bounties come out to roughly 10mil, iirc.

Much more if you loot and salvage.

It's a good chunk of change for a new player.
Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-01-05 16:10:41 UTC
I am Gallente and Alpha at the moment so what would be a "fast" Frigate?
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#7 - 2017-01-05 16:11:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Do Little
An Alpha can easily run the Epic Arc. You will need a ship capable of more than 100dps to kill Dagan in the 2nd last mission. A Vexor can do it easily. I think it's doable in an Algos with alpha skills but it will take a while - make sure to take lots of ammo and get your drone skills as high as you can.

Edit: another way to tackle Dagan is bring a friend!
Black Locust
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-01-05 16:13:51 UTC
Atron is pretty nippy, and the incursus is not bad too. Add a Micro warpdrive or afterburner, and Nanofiber Internal Structure / Inertial Stablilizers to the lowslots to speed up the ship further.
Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#9 - 2017-01-05 16:24:02 UTC
Even if you get problems killing the last guy dagan in his Gnosis you can just ask for help in local.
Major Trant
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#10 - 2017-01-05 17:03:58 UTC
I've done the arc a few times, largely to repair standings. There are 50 missions to run as you go through the arc and in total they pay around 20-25M Isk. You can do it in one ship and you return to the start point at the end, but inbetween go all over high sec to all the main Empire factions. Some trips are 15-20 jumps long, then require you to run a couple of combat missions before another long move.

The whole 50 missions can be done in about 3-4 hours, but the first time you will want to stop and read the text of each mission carefully. It took me most of a weekend the first time.

The advice about using a fast frigate, relates to warp speed when traversing the many long journeys to other systems. So the person who advised...

"Add a Micro warpdrive or afterburner, and Nanofiber Internal Structure / Inertial Stablilizers to the lowslots to speed up the ship further."

...doesn't seem to have understood that. Adding those things will have minimal effect to your warping and slow you down on the combat missions. You should fit your ship for combat and accept the slightly longer times for warp, but that should include a prop mod at least.

There are 15-20 combat missions, most can be done in a Frigate. The 47th (or maybe 46th) and 49th missions are the taxing ones but are done close to the start point of Arnon. There are usually plenty of people in local willing to help if you ask. Or if you travel there in a hauler, leave a Cruiser with the Hauler in Arnon, while you do most of the chain in the Frigate. Use cheap T1 rigs and crush them when done to repackage the ships.
Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-01-05 17:05:50 UTC
Do Little wrote:
An Alpha can easily run the Epic Arc. You will need a ship capable of more than 100dps to kill Dagan in the 2nd last mission. A Vexor can do it easily. I think it's doable in an Algos with alpha skills but it will take a while - make sure to take lots of ammo and get your drone skills as high as you can.

Edit: another way to tackle Dagan is bring a friend!



What do I need drone skills for as I only have the limited Alpha skills on drones?
Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-01-05 17:09:50 UTC
Major Trant wrote:
I've done the arc a few times, largely to repair standings. There are 50 missions to run as you go through the arc and in total they pay around 20-25M Isk. You can do it in one ship and you return to the start point at the end, but inbetween go all over high sec to all the main Empire factions. Some trips are 15-20 jumps long, then require you to run a couple of combat missions before another long move.

The whole 50 missions can be done in about 3-4 hours, but the first time you will want to stop and read the text of each mission carefully. It took me most of a weekend the first time.

The advice about using a fast frigate, relates to warp speed when traversing the many long journeys to other systems. So the person who advised...

"Add a Micro warpdrive or afterburner, and Nanofiber Internal Structure / Inertial Stablilizers to the lowslots to speed up the ship further."

...doesn't seem to have understood that. Adding those things will have minimal effect to your warping and slow you down on the combat missions. You should fit your ship for combat and accept the slightly longer times for warp, but that should include a prop mod at least.

There are 15-20 combat missions, most can be done in a Frigate. The 47th (or maybe 46th) and 49th missions are the taxing ones but are done close to the start point of Arnon. There are usually plenty of people in local willing to help if you ask. Or if you travel there in a hauler, leave a Cruiser with the Hauler in Arnon, while you do most of the chain in the Frigate. Use cheap T1 rigs and crush them when done to repackage the ships.


what is a "prop mod" and what ship did you use ?
Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-01-05 17:14:24 UTC
FYI I have a Catalyst and an Imicus but I am happy to buy another type if that is what is needed. I don't want to lose the Catalyst. So as a Gallente and Alpha what is the best ship or ships for me to use?
MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
#14 - 2017-01-05 17:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
I was able to finish all but the last mission on the SOE arc with a 2.5 day old Alpha in a poorly fit Talwar (missile destroyer). Granted I knew what I was doing. Dagan needs over 100DPS to kill him and my sorry little Talwar of no skills just couldn't pull it off. Asking for help is a common request for that mission. I had a guy in a Drake hop in and pop him for me.

http://fiveminuteeve.blogspot.com/2016/12/s3-blood-stained-stars-aka-sisters-of.html

Burning Down The Hive - was one of the missions that I was lazy with and it almost cost me my ship
Chasing Shadows has a nueting battle cruiser that will steal your capacitor was able to get on top of him (orbit 500m) and eventually kill him because I was too close for him to shoot me.

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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
#15 - 2017-01-05 17:38:45 UTC
Black-Hawk Ellecon wrote:
[what is a "prop mod" and what ship did you use ?


A prop mod refers to an Afterburner or Microwarpdrive.

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Major Trant
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#16 - 2017-01-05 17:42:27 UTC
A prop mod is an Afterburner or Micro Warp Drive and you need them in combat missions for range control. I did my first arc in a Caracal on a 17 day old Caldari char. On this char I did it in a Rifter at about 3 months old, before the Rifter got nerfed, but got help for the 49th mission.

Blaster boats are not the best PvE boats when your skills are low. Which is why people are advising Drones. Ideally you need the ability to hit at range so you can stay away from the main swarm of NPCs, a couple of the missions see 15 or more NPCs coming at you and they can overwelm your tank before you can DPS them down. I think there is one called "Burning down the hive" mid arc where that can be an issue. It all depends on your skills, if they are good enough, you can get through them or you might have to warp out once or twice. A Catalyst would be good enough with my skills, but might be a bit hairy tank wise for you.
Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-01-05 19:10:56 UTC
Thanks for the great replies. I could do with knowing which is the best ship for me as an Alpha and Gallente. I lack the experience to understand all the different ships and mods.
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#18 - 2017-01-05 19:17:33 UTC
Black-Hawk Ellecon wrote:
Thanks for the great replies. I could do with knowing which is the best ship for me as an Alpha and Gallente. I lack the experience to understand all the different ships and mods.

Here's a write up on the topic
Black-Hawk Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2017-01-05 19:40:31 UTC
I though that the sisters of eve arc was the Project Discovery button but now I am doubting that it is. How do I start the story line? Sorry if I am being thick!!
Memphis Baas
#20 - 2017-01-05 20:29:20 UTC
You have to go to Arnon and dock at the Sisters of EVE station, then talk to the agent named Sister Alitura to get the first mission in the epic arc, and then she'll just continue to give you missions and forward you to the next contact in the chain until the whole thing is done.

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