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C2 solo - POS Choice (I've created 2 examples)

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Imogen O'Connor
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-31 02:36:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Imogen O'Connor
Hi Everyone

I've been thinking for a few weeks now that I am going to move into J-space. I love to PvP but also enjoy running sites. The more time I spend researching and preparing for WH-life, the more excited about it I become. Having played Eve for a couple of years and spending most of my time in Nulsec, I feel like this is the next logical step.

I've decided to seek out a C2 with HS/C3 statics. This is for the logistics convenience and access to running C3s. My plan is to do anoms in my C2 (Gila) as well as those in my C3 static (Rattlesnake). Alongside this, will be income from hunting, PI and data/relic sites. Loads to do!

I love the steep learning curve in the game and going through the process of reading up on wormhole life, it's making me feel exactly how I felt when I first started playing Eve - which is awesome!


Anyway, I am planning to build a POS initially until I settle in. I've created two options, one of which is more E-war intensive than the other (with neuts). The alternative has a more guns/dps. I was hoping to draw on your experience and establish which of the two would be more suitable for a C2.


More E-War + Neuts + Lower DPS

Less E-War + Higher Damage (I'll put additional offline modules out in game, I just got lazy at this point)

I really appreciate your comments.


TLDR: I'm just looking for a recommendation of one of the two POS's above for my C2. If neither, what would you change?
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#2 - 2016-12-31 02:56:34 UTC
I'd change the POS into an Astrahus.

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Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-12-31 11:08:15 UTC
I'm in a similar situation - looking to start a solo hole - although I already live in w-space as part of a pvp corp, so I have a (little) bit more experience than you.

I'd strongly recommend against a C2 for a solo pilot. These are VERY active, especially when you have a HS static. When you compare the killboards of the C2s you scout to the C1s and C3s, you'll see what I mean.

For this reason I'd suggest a C1 or C3. If you want a HS static, it will probably be easier to find an empty C3, as C1/HS are very popular with industrialists.

Long term, you want an Astrahaus, as this will pay for itself in fuel costs after a few monts. Like you, though, I think starting with a large POS is better, as this gives you a chance to get established and better plan when the Astrahaus goes up.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Imogen O'Connor
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-12-31 11:50:48 UTC
My plan was to put up a POS first to establish myself, then go with the Astrahus maybe a month later. It would just be easier for me to control my whole with a POS up while I am onlining the Citadel.


Taurean, does your recommendation still apply if I am going to spend most of my time in my C3 static? My main interest is PvP and running C3 sites. The reason I thought it would be best to have C3 as my static is so I'm not having to wait for anoms in my own hole to respawn. The HS connection is probably lower down on my priority list compared with having constant access to C3 anoms.

I am more of a PVPer at heart so having to make an extra jump down the chain to get to HS doesn't really bother me. I also thought there may be slightly less chance of eviction in a C2 in comparison to the likes of a C4 for example. I'd consider going into a C4 with C3/C1 statics but surely there is even more risk there compared to living in a C2 with C3/HS statics when going solo?
Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-12-31 12:13:51 UTC
Farming your static is indeed where the money is, and why C2s are so popular, and so busy. As a solo player, though, are you likely to spend enough time farming to need a w-space static? For me, I've decided the answer is no - PI on three characters and occassional exploration ought to be enough to pay for my pvp.

Ultimately, all I have to go on is my own opinion. However, I CAN say that we (my corp) love getting a C2 connection, as it means ganking the hell out of the locals, and everyone else trying to pass through that system. Given the number of other hunters I encounter while doing this, we do not seem to be unique.

I've decided to square this circle by going for a C1/3 with a low sec static. That gives me reasonable HS access if I need it, pvp on my doorstep, and a good chance of connections to other wormholes via the lowsec systems.

Of course, by starting with a POS you are keeping your options open - moving is not too painful if you feel you made the wrong call.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Imogen O'Connor
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-12-31 12:30:03 UTC
I really don't know as I have little experience in this. I only have 1 character who does PI so I wouldn't have lots of that to fall back on. Perhaps I am being too ambitious on the number of anoms I will require. As I said, I have spent 90% of my time in nulsec since I started playing the game, so perhaps living in a C3 with a nul-sec static wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd be able to ninja nul-sec sites and there would obviously be a huge PVP element there too. The only downside would be the high sec logistics but I would find a way to live with that by scanning down a chain to high sec and being vigilant.


All that being said, the question still remains in relation to my POS dilemma....lol
Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-12-31 13:00:34 UTC
In a low class wormhole your POS probably works better without the neuts. Those modules are designed to make life difficult for capital pilots, which you are unlikely to encounter in low class w-space. Their massive fitting requirements are better spent (IMO) on more ewar and damage.

For the same reason, you could probably drop the large guns for more mediums. Your main threats will be SB fleets, and BC/BS fleets. Between small pulse and medium beam, you have both reasonably well covered.

I would consider moving to a 3/3/2/1 hardener setup. Being too irritating to evict is easily your best defence.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Imogen O'Connor
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-12-31 13:25:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Imogen O'Connor
Taurean Eltanin wrote:
In a low class wormhole your POS probably works better without the neuts. Those modules are designed to make life difficult for capital pilots, which you are unlikely to encounter in low class w-space. Their massive fitting requirements are better spent (IMO) on more ewar and damage.

For the same reason, you could probably drop the large guns for more mediums. Your main threats will be SB fleets, and BC/BS fleets. Between small pulse and medium beam, you have both reasonably well covered.

I would consider moving to a 3/3/2/1 hardener setup. Being too irritating to evict is easily your best defence.


Excellent, thank you. That's all very helpful.

I'd be interested in hearing more about your WH experience and your reasons for wanting to go solo, so if you fancy sharing just message me in game :)
Jonn Duune
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#9 - 2017-01-01 23:43:25 UTC
Taurean Eltanin wrote:


I would consider moving to a 3/3/2/1 hardener setup. Being too irritating to evict is easily your best defence.


This. My personal POS defense setup is something like 6 small guns, 1 warp scram, and all the flavours of jams, over and over. people won't try to evict a dickstar.

My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.

Vartan Sarkisian
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#10 - 2017-01-30 19:55:03 UTC
Hi there. Hopefully our wormhole can tempt you although you dont mention TZ, we are a mainly EUTZ alliance living in a C2 and just happen to have a HS and C3 static.

We have a recruitment thread which ill link below, if, after reading that you have an interest please contact one of the three names listed for a chat where we can find out more about you and you can find out more about us.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6772495#post6772495


Thanks


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Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2017-01-30 20:41:55 UTC
Seeing as this has been bumped, how did things go?

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#12 - 2017-01-31 06:15:11 UTC
I don't think it really matters how you fit your POS as long as you have some DPS, Web + scram and then whatever else you want.

The chance of someone bashing it in 1-2 months is pretty low and in most cases and most of the hassle with killing a POS is the EHP.

Scram - so people have to commit
Web - so that they cant speed tank you (I did a POS bash against a POS with no webs and we used PI alts in shuttles to split the DPS ect up so much that it was easy mode)
DPS - Should be obvious but I have also bashed a POS with no DPS and max ECM. Lets just say that drones make it easy.
Jonn Duune
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#13 - 2017-02-06 20:34:57 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
I'd change the POS into an Astrahus.



No, for a solo/small operation, you want to get the POS in there first, because of 24 hr anchoring time. get the POS setup, and then after earning some isk, set the astra up.

My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.