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Don't send an Ammatar to do an Udorian's job
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#1 - 2016-12-23 00:56:13 UTC
Recently, I was Sorely Disappointed to discover that some Ammatar slaves that I had obtained, to assist in vital tasks such as posting on the IGS, operating comms channels, and watching demon portals for any unusual activity, had decided to abandon their tasks and abscond.

Needless to say, I shan't be purchasing any Ammatar slaves in the future.

In contrast, my Udorian servants continued to perform their assigned duties admirably.

Therefore, I can only conclude, that Udorians are superior to Ammatar, in the role of Assistant to such a renowned author, poet, scholar, demon huntress, philosopher and missionary such as myself.

Truly, we live in the darkest of dark times.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#2 - 2016-12-23 01:45:15 UTC
Ammatar are useless and weak minded, if that was not true they would be free and shooting at you.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-12-23 03:50:36 UTC
None of these would have happened had you embraced the miracle that is modern automation technology. Well, except for the IGS posting. You need a person to actually be posting for it to not look like a Jita scam bot.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Yarosara Ruil
#4 - 2016-12-23 09:55:08 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Well, except for the IGS posting. You need a person to actually be posting for it to not look like a Jita scam bot.


I'm pretty sure that technology is more advanced than you think, Mister Egivand.

After all, only a machine could post the way Mister Ephisianos posts!
Praevus
#5 - 2016-12-23 10:41:44 UTC
One should never trust a slave to do anything important if the said slave still has free will, Ammatar or not.

Either automate the task, assign properly motivated people to do it, or remove the factor of free will from the slave.

Genetic composition has little to do with that, really.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#6 - 2016-12-23 16:08:02 UTC
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-12-23 16:30:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Well, except for the IGS posting. You need a person to actually be posting for it to not look like a Jita scam bot.


I'm pretty sure that technology is more advanced than you think, Mister Egivand.

After all, only a machine could post the way Mister Ephisianos posts!


On the contrary, only a human being can post like Ephisianos. A weak AI is only capable of constructing texts based on a series of programmed rules and is as such incapable of posting complete madness. However, it also means that a weak AI is prone to repeating replies after repeated queries, as it cycles through all its possible options and loops right back, or it uses probability algorithms and eventually picks the same two replies in a row.

The strong AI will be capable of mimicking madness, or at least, an utter lack of comprehension of sentence structure. However, the only places we can find strong AI would be out in the Drone Hives or in outposts beyond the reach of CONCORD or are very well hidden amongst us and most definitely won't be utilised as a bot, if any non-rogue strong AI exists.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#8 - 2016-12-23 21:20:26 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Recently, I was Sorely Disappointed to discover that some Ammatar slaves that I had obtained, to assist in vital tasks such as posting on the IGS, operating comms channels, and watching demon portals for any unusual activity, had decided to abandon their tasks and abscond.

Needless to say, I shan't be purchasing any Ammatar slaves in the future.

In contrast, my Udorian servants continued to perform their assigned duties admirably.

Therefore, I can only conclude, that Udorians are superior to Ammatar, in the role of Assistant to such a renowned author, poet, scholar, demon huntress, philosopher and missionary such as myself.

Truly, we live in the darkest of dark times.


Since Empress Jamyl liberated her slaves, I as a loyal supporter did the same. At first it was difficult but later discovered when I did the work myself and thus more rewarding.

But running a corp cannot being done by one person alone. A need for staff is required.

Now while I don't have the legion of slaves fresh from the market. I do have "consensual" slaves. mostly for my pleasure.

The work well for the rewards that are offered and are punished when the have failed to meet my expectation. Often times the "punishment" is the reward. I can tell you how much more work I get out of them (regardless of their origins) when they are eager to please.

Some are willing to let bleed them a little for some of my rituals.

Moments like those are extremely rewarding for all parties concerned.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#9 - 2016-12-23 21:25:32 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:


Now while I don't have the legion of slaves fresh from the market. I do have "consensual" slaves. mostly for my pleasure.

The work well for the rewards that are offered and are punished when the have failed to meet my expectation. Often times the "punishment" is the reward. I can tell you how much more work I get out of them (regardless of their origins) when they are eager to please.

Some are willing to let bleed them a little for some of my rituals.

Moments like those are extremely rewarding for all parties concerned.

Is your Corp a pleasure hub? Because it sounds like a pleasure hub.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#10 - 2016-12-23 21:59:46 UTC
I prefer to calling it an alternate path to enlightenment. Blink

Pleasure Hub is so... Gallente

But then again I always did like people from the Federation.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#11 - 2016-12-23 22:12:30 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#12 - 2016-12-24 00:56:43 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.


Some things are better when done yourself. Valerie I would never ask you to change you ways, but experimentation that too is the Sani Sabik way.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#13 - 2016-12-24 06:33:23 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.


You have a point, obviously the only solution we have left is to get rid of all the slavers.

Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.

🇮🇪

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#14 - 2016-12-24 07:14:38 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.

You're comparing apples to oranges here, drones have little commonality with sentient human beings. As much as you want to dehumanize anyone who isn't in your little clique, you can't expect to use an argument like that and hope to convince us that you're the morally correct one.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2016-12-24 09:50:24 UTC
Val Kaleth wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.


You have a point, obviously the only solution we have left is to get rid of all the slavers.


I don't think this metaphor is as useful to you as you think it is. After all, how do we deal with the Rogue Drone problem?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#16 - 2016-12-24 10:01:24 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.


You have a point, obviously the only solution we have left is to get rid of all the slavers.


I don't think this metaphor is as useful to you as you think it is. After all, how do we deal with the Rogue Drone problem?


The slavers can dance around this debate while I shoot them.

Seems pretty useful to me.

Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.

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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#17 - 2016-12-24 11:57:04 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You're comparing apples to oranges here.


Apples superior. Oranges inferior.

Apple Supremacy !

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-12-24 13:56:13 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Don't use slaves at all. Problem solved.


That's like saying the problems of rogue drones can be solved by not using drones at all.

Ludicrous.


You have a point, obviously the only solution we have left is to get rid of all the slavers.


I don't think this metaphor is as useful to you as you think it is. After all, how do we deal with the Rogue Drone problem?


By getting around where we can and by exterminating trespassing hives with extreme prejudice.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Irtep Olmeke
Immemorial Coalescence Provisioning
Immemorial Coalescence
#19 - 2016-12-24 16:46:40 UTC
One should judge the rest on such small group.
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#20 - 2016-12-24 17:35:52 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You're comparing apples to oranges here.


Apples superior. Oranges inferior.

Apple Supremacy !


The lady has a point, all slavers should be tied up and have an apple shoved into their mouths. If they are lucky a spanking might follow.


P.S. Oranges are better

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