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Not to store Data on C:/ !!!
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Voxin Tulon
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-12-12 19:36:44 UTC
CCP not to store any kind of data on C:/ ..... AppData... or anywhere on C, unless installation dir..
I had to backup C from image and ofc, lost **** load of settings I made meanwhile..
That's rude...
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2016-12-12 19:40:28 UTC
Like 99% of modern games have their settings and saves on the C: drive.

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Voxin Tulon
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-12-12 19:55:01 UTC
Some save in MyDocuments folder (which is not on my C)
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-12-12 20:01:08 UTC
How rude of CCP not to have the game designed for your specific data storage setup.

I mean they should have it tailored specifically to you rather than using a default that is standard pretty much everywhere.

If only there was some way you could have specified the file location. Maybe during game installation or something.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-12-12 20:08:24 UTC
Actually, [Users]/AppData is the standard... C:/ is not. Don't know which one was the first version, but Windows no longer allows saving data in Program Files; ergo, some developers took their entire directory out of that structure (foregoing the original intent), and some opted for Installer services with sufficient rights to do so, storing their data in [Users] where they are allowed to save files.

The first is clean from a developer's point of view, and chooses to not get involved with ever-changing OS policies.

The second is clean (for now) but requires yet another nasty service.

This is a direct result of MicroSoft policy. Complain there.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-12-12 20:12:59 UTC
AppData exists specifically to store logs, settings, modifications, plugins and so on for a specific user on your system. Windows is a multi user OS after all. That way, each user who logs in to your machine will have access to their specific setup, and only theirs. So it's not surprising that CCP are using it to do exactly that.

If you don't want your apps and games to store stuff on C:, just move your Documents folder, My Games folder and so on as well as AppData to a different drive. Google it if you don't know how. Alternatively, you can also have Windows store your whole user profile on a different drive, if you so wish.
Voxin Tulon
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-12-12 20:31:07 UTC
Yes, I know what AppData serves for. I am developer and for the last 15 years, no one in the right mind ever use Window's everchanging ways to do things. Just because of things like this, and because it is everchanging.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-12-12 20:45:43 UTC
So ... what exactly is your request then? You want CCP to *not* follow MS Standard, and implement their own storage? Or you wish you had configured your PC appropriately but didn't and now feel the need to vent frustration?

Either way, I feel your pain. Been coding for 25 years myself, can't even write my own registry keys anymore without "admin permission" FFFFUUUU
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2016-12-12 20:53:32 UTC
Hmhm, AppData has been around since Windows Vista, hasn't it? What has changed about it so significantly since then?
Voxin Tulon
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-12-12 20:53:41 UTC
Yes, this is exactly what I suggest.
If I can choose where to store cache, why not where would I keep settings?
And settings about storing settings can be in simple text file NAME=VALUE base in exe dir.
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#11 - 2016-12-12 20:56:19 UTC
Voxin Tulon wrote:
Yes, I know what AppData serves for. I am developer and for the last 15 years, no one in the right mind ever use Window's everchanging ways to do things. Just because of things like this, and because it is everchanging.



You did!
Voxin Tulon
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-12-12 20:57:12 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Voxin Tulon wrote:
Yes, I know what AppData serves for. I am developer and for the last 15 years, no one in the right mind ever use Window's everchanging ways to do things. Just because of things like this, and because it is everchanging.



You did!


I did what?
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#13 - 2016-12-12 20:59:12 UTC
Voxin Tulon wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Voxin Tulon wrote:
Yes, I know what AppData serves for. I am developer and for the last 15 years, no one in the right mind ever use Window's everchanging ways to do things. Just because of things like this, and because it is everchanging.



You did!


I did what?


for the last 15 years, no one in the right mind ever use Window's everchanging ways to do things.
Voxin Tulon
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2016-12-12 21:01:38 UTC
No, I didn't. Any of the software I designed when windows breaks, reinstall it, and if you kept app, just run it and it works.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2016-12-12 21:25:55 UTC
My customers complained when I didn't. So I made both work. Then they complained it was too complex to configure properly, so in the end I still wound up configuring it for them- same as before. The morale?

Users complain.

Next topic?
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#16 - 2016-12-12 21:59:04 UTC
Claims to be a developer.
Doesn't have backups.
Nalia White
Tencus
#17 - 2016-12-12 22:24:25 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
My customers complained when I didn't. So I made both work. Then they complained it was too complex to configure properly, so in the end I still wound up configuring it for them- same as before. The morale?

Users complain.

Next topic?


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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-12-13 00:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Elenahina
Another Posting Alt wrote:
Claims to be a developer.
Doesn't have backups.


In my experience, developers are some of the worst people at backing up their own stuff.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-12-13 01:46:10 UTC
If you had to restore your C from a backup, why didn't you have your settings backed up too?

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Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-12-13 03:22:33 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
If you had to restore your C from a backup, why didn't you have your settings backed up too?


AHA! Asking the real questions Lol

But ..... guilty as charged. I don't have an automated backup solution either. Couple of directory dumps on an external drive and an outdated piece of paper laying bob-knows-where containing passwords. I'd be fukkd too. Oops

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