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New FW Complex: Team Effort

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Duckling Union
#1 - 2016-12-12 02:42:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kopatel Raznosti
Hi CCP,
He's is an idea of a new FW Complexes with limited pilots allowed inside the complex (FW members only, no pirates).
Novice Solo: 1 Vs 1 (namely 1 caldari Vs 1 gallente), frigates. Novice Duo: 2 Vs 2, frigates....... Up to 5 Vs 5 frigs
Small Solo: 1 Vs 1 in destroyers .......... 5 Vs 5 in destroyesrs
......................
Large Solo: 1 Vs 1 in any.................... 5 Vs. 5 in any (these Large Complexes have to be with the gates)
Thinking that pilots tyred of blobs and camps shoud like this idea.
Another hint: entering the gates to these complexes cannot be stopps by dis/scrams when outside.
Thanks!
The Bloc
#2 - 2016-12-12 09:02:00 UTC
No thanks.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#3 - 2016-12-12 11:01:17 UTC
There's already a mechanic for this, its called a highsec duel.
Jayai Syndicate
#4 - 2017-01-02 01:17:11 UTC
No pirates, no pirates, what's wrong with you. At least with Pirates you might get a fight, and fighting stabbed farmers isn't much of a challenge. Go red man, positive sec stays in low isn't a constant. That's really the biggest get from prohibiting them in plex's, other than they are usually itching for a fight. There are alot of mechanics that need to be fixed in FW - and imo this issues low on that totem pole.

Spaceship Bebop
#5 - 2017-01-12 17:49:56 UTC
Rovain Sess wrote:
No pirates, no pirates, what's wrong with you. At least with Pirates you might get a fight, and fighting stabbed farmers isn't much of a challenge. Go red man, positive sec stays in low isn't a constant. That's really the biggest get from prohibiting them in plex's, other than they are usually itching for a fight. There are alot of mechanics that need to be fixed in FW - and imo this issues low on that totem pole.



Pirates should be allowed in, but not allowed out Pirate
#6 - 2017-01-20 13:38:19 UTC
This seems very un-eve
#7 - 2017-01-22 21:25:52 UTC
I'm going to agree with my peers here.

Your suggestion sounds good in your mind, but then EVE is less like EVE and more like some other MMO that doesn't want my feelings hurt.

EVE is, pirates and unkind actions and team work and all that stuff

if pirates were not allow in the plex then it mitgates risk.

I want pirates in my plex.

it's why i've been paying for this game since 2009.

they kill me but i want them there

If i want my feelings to not be hurt. I think Azeroth is --> that way


I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer...

or as EVE Online would have it...

A Carebear!!

Federation Uprising
#8 - 2017-01-23 13:44:00 UTC
Kopatel Raznosti wrote:
Hi CCP,
He's is an idea of a new FW Complexes with limited pilots allowed inside the complex (FW members only, no pirates).
Novice Solo: 1 Vs 1 (namely 1 caldari Vs 1 gallente), frigates. Novice Duo: 2 Vs 2, frigates....... Up to 5 Vs 5 frigs
Small Solo: 1 Vs 1 in destroyers .......... 5 Vs 5 in destroyesrs
......................
Large Solo: 1 Vs 1 in any.................... 5 Vs. 5 in any (these Large Complexes have to be with the gates)
Thinking that pilots tyred of blobs and camps shoud like this idea.
Another hint: entering the gates to these complexes cannot be stopps by dis/scrams when outside.
Thanks!


This idea, while well intentioned, is very naive. It cannot be implemented without being exploited. If I want to "win", I get alts on both sides and get into the plex first. "I win".

As to the second point, CCP already has this feature, it is called gate sliding....

.

Triumvirate.
#9 - 2017-01-24 12:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tabyll Altol
Kopatel Raznosti wrote:
Hi CCP,
He's is an idea of a new FW Complexes with limited pilots allowed inside the complex (FW members only, no pirates).
Novice Solo: 1 Vs 1 (namely 1 caldari Vs 1 gallente), frigates. Novice Duo: 2 Vs 2, frigates....... Up to 5 Vs 5 frigs
Small Solo: 1 Vs 1 in destroyers .......... 5 Vs 5 in destroyesrs
......................
Large Solo: 1 Vs 1 in any.................... 5 Vs. 5 in any (these Large Complexes have to be with the gates)
Thinking that pilots tyred of blobs and camps shoud like this idea.
Another hint: entering the gates to these complexes cannot be stopps by dis/scrams when outside.
Thanks!


So why do you post a thread which starts with : "He´s an idea ...." in the "Warefare & Tactics" Forum and not in the "Player Features and Ideas Discussion" ?????

Also Make an alt for the other faction go inside --> safe LP farming.

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Prelium Ultima
#10 - 2017-01-26 14:09:11 UTC
Sorry Duckling but these posters are correct.


Eve is built around non-consensual "cat & mouse" combat. Bullies in Eve only get killed when they get tricked & trapped.


Faction Warfare has many many problems and there is definitely an imbalance to the "pro's & cons" of being in a Miliita compared to the "pro's & cons" to being in the same warzone outside of a Militia (with no affiliations or few).

What CCP should work on is the reasons why someone wants to be in a FW Militia.

Currently there is only the high isk reward / risk of farming LP (wealth generation). Whilst there is a negligible benefit of being in the same place / area that you might choose to engage in interactive play (PvP).


There is not enough, imo, of incentives to play a faction. There has never really been. There is not even the "token" of an in-game medal to achieve (as they have now all been won).

CCP never thought anyone was going to "go career" as a Militia pilot or they would have built some good long term rewards into the FW system. I wish they would.


In the meantime, CCP and CSM will quote the low numbers in FW play as a reason why it does not deserve development time - despite the fact that the current model encourages people to leave FW rather than to give them any reason to stay.

There are very few "gone career" FW Miltia corps but they do exist for their sins. As your experience builds you are able to identify the right sort of targets to fight.

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"

#11 - 2017-01-27 15:13:25 UTC
You can't have a "safe space" here. HTFU Pirate
Snuffed Out
#12 - 2017-01-27 15:36:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
why does nobody like pirates Sad

you know the majority of pirates will honor 1v1's right?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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