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Her Name Is Olivia #B4R

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jj gunsIinger
Toxic Uprising
#1 - 2016-10-05 12:16:08 UTC  |  Edited by: jj gunsIinger
Hi,

As there was this sad story about a fellow capsuleer named Olivia and there where many ideas brought up for her, hopefully soon, return. I felt it is a good idea to consulidate everything in this post.

In my opinion the best Idea was to collect some money to create her a Fortizar Citadel with all required Service modules and defensemods. I think the best is here to let her friend @Quincy Jeter collect and place the citadel in a system of her choice. And then welcome her with a NPSI Fleet of drakes from said citadel FCed by @Jonnyb Cunningham.

As initial Name I suggest "Olivia's Space Pub" as a it has her name and a Pub is normally a cozy Place to hang out with friends.

This truly cannot neglet the damage done, but maybe it reminds her everytime she logs into the game that she is not alone, which hopefully gives her strength all the time. :)

I think it is a affordable effort we can do for her.

Share your thoughts.

Björn

P.S. full story is written here in this awesome blog
https://theneocom.com/2016/10/04/her-name-is-olivia/
*** UPDATE1 ***
I reached out to the leadership of TEST Alliance Please Ignore with the request if it is possible to guard the onlining Citadel during the vulnerability window.

Sapporo Jones said himself:
"If we aren't tied down with strategic operations in Tribute or Vale at the time then absolutely we should be there."
***

*** UPDATE2 ***
Due to the sheer support it is considered upgrading the planned Fortizar into a Keepstar.
It would be huge if we manage to pull this upgrade off. :)

It just depends on what we have in the end.

Just for coordination reasons do not donate any ISK yet. I keep you updated and announce the character where the ISK will be collected in a upcoming update.

It will be a character of either herself or of a close friend of hers. (Quincy)
***

*UPDATE* So we are in the process of getting in contact with a reliable 3rd party to hold donations until we are ready to purchase the citadel
We are getting up there in isk and donations guys and i really appreciate all of the support we have had in doing this for her. I really want to see how far we can get this going for her guys. You can either mail me or go onto the eve online facebook group and see how things are going. I want to get ahold of her sister to see if we can get any further updates on how she is doing.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
Band of Boogers
#2 - 2016-10-05 12:27:10 UTC
jj gunsIinger wrote:
Hi,

As there was this sad story about a fellow capsuleer named Olivia and there where many ideas brought up for her, hopefully soon, return. I felt it is a good idea to consulidate everything in this post.

In my opinion the best Idea was to collect some money to create her a Fortizar Citadel with all required Service modules and defensemods. I think the best is here to let her friend @Quincy Jeter collect and place the citadel in a system of her choice. And then welcome her with a NPSI Fleet of drakes from said citadel FCed by @Jonnyb Cunningham.

As initial Name I suggest "Olivia's Space Pub" as a it has her name and a Pub is normally a cozy Place to hang out with friends.

This truly cannot neglet the damage done, but maybe it reminds her everytime she logs into the game that she is not alone, which hopefully gives her strength all the time. :)

I think it is a affordable effort we can do for her.

Share your thoughts.

Björn

P.S. full story is written here in this awesome blog
https://theneocom.com/2016/10/04/her-name-is-olivia/
*** UPDATE1 ***
I reached out to the leadership of TEST Alliance Please Ignore with the request if it is possible to guard the onlining Citadel during the vulnerability window.

Sapporo Jones said himself:
"If we aren't tied down with strategic operations in Tribute or Vale at the time then absolutely we should be there."
***

*** UPDATE2 ***
Due to the sheer support it is considered upgrading the planned Fortizar into a Keepstar.
It would be huge if we manage to pull this upgrade off. :)

It just depends on what we have in the end.

Just for coordination reasons do not donate any ISK yet. I keep you updated and announce the character where the ISK will be collected in a upcoming update.

It will be a character of either herself or of a close friend of hers. (Quincy)
***



You do know that you just painted a big red dot on ur citadel, handing out invites to shoot it Down??
Turelus
Utassi Security
#3 - 2016-10-05 12:27:36 UTC
Read about this story yesterday and was sad to see that some in our community forget what human decency is.
The outrage and condemnation of events I have seen following the breaking of the news once again just shows how fantastic this community is however.

This is a great idea and I hope it gets a good following from alliances working together.
My only concern is that it could cause more undue stresses to those involved in future should the Citadel become targeted for future trolling however. What?

Turelus CEO Utassi Security

Bjoern Jouhinen
Alcoholocaust.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2016-10-05 12:52:02 UTC
Just FYI I made the initial post on the EVE Online Facebook group where it is taken from, just to avoid confusion. :)
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#5 - 2016-10-05 13:27:50 UTC
And now for a round of Jeopardy, the answer for 1.000.000.000,00 is "Yes".

*Beep* FC what is; can I bring my drake.

Get on Comms, or die typing.

Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#6 - 2016-10-05 14:46:49 UTC
Sad to see this happened. Cry

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......

Elenahina
Black Serpent Technologies
The-Culture
#7 - 2016-10-05 15:38:47 UTC
Speaking on behalf of only myself, I wish Olivia safety, protection from harm, and a speedy recovery. No one deserves to be treated this way, and anyone who finds amusement in the suffering of others is less than human.

To the people who tormented this young woman, you are no longer welcome to continue with your position as an oxygen to carbon dioxide conversion specialist. Please leave and never return, you will not be missed and nothing of value will have been lost from this community.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Ronove Los
Outer Harbor
#8 - 2016-10-05 16:55:38 UTC
Terrible to hear, hope she is well. Strange story though, curious to see what happened and how. If it happend in B4R, perhaps a channel/community like that should be either closed (or policed 24/7) and let the suicidal people go the real professionals, not encourage them to seek advice from space shrinks? The intention is noble, i understand. But you see what can happen and probably will happen again in the future. Some people just need a little push and it's very easy to receive here in New Eden( or any other mmo/forum for that matter )

If you seek guidance and wisdom in chatchannels on the web, there's a gigantic chance you'll get dissapointed when you're experiencing mental issues. These trolls were the straw that broke the camel's back. It's a sad thing and people who repeatedly harass other only to flame/troll them should be punished.

Be blessed, have a great day and never forget...Blink


Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#9 - 2016-10-05 17:06:44 UTC
Its just crazy sad. I am sure there must be some legal actions agains perpetrators. Permaban doesnt sound like it would be something sufficient.
Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion
Sixth Empire
#10 - 2016-10-05 20:55:58 UTC
Very sad to see people acting like scumbags like that - trolling a B4R seriously crosses the line. But it's equally as heartening to see our community pulling together when it counts.

We might be trolls, saboteurs, backstabbers and awoxers ingame, but this community is the best in the world, both because of all of this malarkey, and because of how we really (underneath all the shenanigans) look out for our Eve brethren.

Wishing Olivia a speedy recovery and that she and her loved ones get all the support they need during and after this challenging time.
Mikkhi Kisht
Vanity Thy Name Is
#11 - 2016-10-06 01:16:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikkhi Kisht
Ronove Los wrote:
Terrible to hear, hope she is well. Strange story though, curious to see what happened and how. If it happend in B4R, perhaps a channel/community like that should be either closed (or policed 24/7) and let the suicidal people go the real professionals, not encourage them to seek advice from space shrinks? The intention is noble, i understand. But you see what can happen and probably will happen again in the future. Some people just need a little push and it's very easy to receive here in New Eden( or any other mmo/forum for that matter )

If you seek guidance and wisdom in chatchannels on the web, there's a gigantic chance you'll get dissapointed when you're experiencing mental issues. These trolls were the straw that broke the camel's back. It's a sad thing and people who repeatedly harass other only to flame/troll them should be punished.

Be blessed, have a great day and never forget...Blink




I understand somewhat your point of view. But without being too much of a cliche, getting professional help with an emotional crisis/mental illness break is not as easy as it appears in print. 'They meant well' conversations with space ship shrinks can help, if only to get someone to daylight hours intact and to start the process of acquiring that professional help.

I hope Olivia recovers rapidly and gets more help from here onward, some lesson is learned about where's not the proper place for trolling for lulz, and I'll continue to support B4R and it's efforts to be part of solutions, not more of the stigma and shame based problems.

>Mikk's Keyboardist
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#12 - 2016-10-06 01:48:06 UTC
I sincerely do hope that Olivia fully recovers.

I won't slime it with the delusional #b4r. They set the table and the trolls sat down to eat.

Get real New Eden. CCP won't moderate ingame events and organizations, meaning the current setup of plastering r/eve, #tweetfleet and everything else with these sorts of posts will continue to run unchecked with the worst of this community. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Lots of people seem to think that because I'm against #b4r means I'm one of those trolls. I'm not a troll. I'm not really even against #b4r. Not even close. This situation proves how it's not a simple black/white issue. I'm literally wishing for the best possible environment and I think we need to keep #b4r seriously tightly moderated to keep this from happening again. Even if that means they need to keep it to private slack channels, ingame channels or even making a separate but nearby clicky on r/eve to the r/b4r subreddit.

I love how big everyone's hearts are, I do love that there's a place like #b4r, but seriously reconsider how you promote yourself it's landed someone in the hospital. Own up to the responsibility. And the trolls deserve a ban.

I hate this part of our game. I guess that's the trouble with not being able to leave RL at the login screen.

@lunettelulu7

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#13 - 2016-10-06 07:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Nana Skalski wrote:
Its just crazy sad. I am sure there must be some legal actions agains perpetrators. Permaban doesnt sound like it would be something sufficient.


Considering the result of such harassment, I'd be very surprised if the potential for criminal charges are not on the table at least. Then again, that would (as it should) be up to others to take that step. Such a shame this happen at all, but also so under the rather odd circumstances.

Anyways, I just hope she's okay and gets better. With any luck, she'll one day look back on this and find someway to use this to make her a stronger person rather than let it bring her down. Let's also hope we as fellow human beings learn well from this so that it doesn't happen again, or that at least we are better prepared to ensure it doesn't go that far again.

Also, the link in the OP redirects to here incorrectly instead of where it's obviously meant to go, just fwi.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-10-06 08:13:09 UTC
Should a big warning sign be placed on log-in screen "EvE is not a good place for mentally instable persons"?

EvE is full of violence, lies, betrayal and rudeness. Some people find it attractive. But for many it's just too much to take.

Anyway, what was happened is really bad, and i wish Olivia will be OK and support community gave will help her to get back to normal. But for havens sake keep her away from EvE or even MMOs at all - just for her own good. Until she will get strong enough to deal with such offends by herself. Making any monuments for her or driving her back in EvE is a Really Bad Idea.

While Arkoth 24 is a sociopathic heartless jerk, offending someone in B4R is just too much even for me. Sanctuary should be stay untouched.

Say to Olivia that rude russian bastard wish her to be strong like a bear and deadly as AK-47.
Geronimo McVain
EVE University
Ivy League
#15 - 2016-10-06 08:25:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Geronimo McVain
Sad story. I think we all should take the time and just think about how WE could make Eve a nicer place? I've got shot down by someone as a noob and afterward he gave me the money for my ship back: no hard feelings.
Maybe just some friendly words or a "gf" for the looser makes a difference. We should see Eve as a sport where you win or loose but still be a sportsman.
Trolling is something I really hate but on B4R it's nearly criminal. Permaban for all accounts is the least, and sadly the only, thing CCP can do.

BTW: In this cases CCP should openly state the punishment and which accounts got banned. Open actions against such idiots may prevent the next incident.
Lan Wang
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#16 - 2016-10-06 08:45:11 UTC
jj gunsIinger wrote:
Hi,

As there was this sad story about a fellow capsuleer named Olivia and there where many ideas brought up for her, hopefully soon, return. I felt it is a good idea to consulidate everything in this post.

In my opinion the best Idea was to collect some money to create her a Fortizar Citadel with all required Service modules and defensemods. I think the best is here to let her friend @Quincy Jeter collect and place the citadel in a system of her choice. And then welcome her with a NPSI Fleet of drakes from said citadel FCed by @Jonnyb Cunningham.

As initial Name I suggest "Olivia's Space Pub" as a it has her name and a Pub is normally a cozy Place to hang out with friends.

This truly cannot neglet the damage done, but maybe it reminds her everytime she logs into the game that she is not alone, which hopefully gives her strength all the time. :)

I think it is a affordable effort we can do for her.

Share your thoughts.

Björn

P.S. full story is written here in this awesome blog
https://theneocom.com/2016/10/04/her-name-is-olivia/
*** UPDATE1 ***
I reached out to the leadership of TEST Alliance Please Ignore with the request if it is possible to guard the onlining Citadel during the vulnerability window.

Sapporo Jones said himself:
"If we aren't tied down with strategic operations in Tribute or Vale at the time then absolutely we should be there."
***

*** UPDATE2 ***
Due to the sheer support it is considered upgrading the planned Fortizar into a Keepstar.
It would be huge if we manage to pull this upgrade off. :)

It just depends on what we have in the end.

Just for coordination reasons do not donate any ISK yet. I keep you updated and announce the character where the ISK will be collected in a upcoming update.

It will be a character of either herself or of a close friend of hers. (Quincy)
***

*UPDATE* So we are in the process of getting in contact with a reliable 3rd party to hold donations until we are ready to purchase the citadel
We are getting up there in isk and donations guys and i really appreciate all of the support we have had in doing this for her. I really want to see how far we can get this going for her guys. You can either mail me or go onto the eve online facebook group and see how things are going. I want to get ahold of her sister to see if we can get any further updates on how she is doing.


Really sad thing, hope she recovers and the trolls are banned.

Just wondering though why did horde reach out to test to defend the onlining, is that something horde cant do themselves?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Bjoern Jouhinen
Alcoholocaust.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#17 - 2016-10-06 09:37:47 UTC
It is not that horde reched out to test it is more we are both on the same Facebook EVE Online Group. And in regards to this topic we do not care on in game politics.
Fuzzy TheBear
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-10-06 11:35:09 UTC
Appropriate replies are not always obvious to write.
We have not seen it happen so we can't really know how bad it got. It obviously got pretty damn bad to drive
someone down in the ground that much that they make serious attempts on their lives.
As a member , i can only encourage people that see people that start to show signs of distress to PM them and
check em out , talk with them a bit and if so required , call for help.
Certainly , take them out the abusive environment by telling them to shut the channel where abuse is taking place.
Taking people aside and going private may defuse and calm down the person.

OFC people in distress should seek professional help and EVE can certainly get rough in some circles.
But it's not everywhere and with everyone.

A good corporation , and good sincere friends , are everywhere in EVE , not all of them are.
There's all the game play and role play going on all the time , this is a game after all.
There's people that have problems that come here and pass their rage they can't deal with in real life
and take it upon others .. Bunches of people could benefit from professional help ..

But us as players , we should keep an eye on those we hold dear and extend a paw to help them
and support them when they go through tough times.

Eve is a game yes , but we , as corp mates , should always remember that we get out of the game what we put into it.
Spread love and warmth , that's what you get back, spread hate , hatred and violence .. that's what you get back.

Hope she gets better soon .

Richard aka Fuzzy TheBear

je*** ch**** did i really say paw .. fsck .. this carebear stuff's getting to my head bad .. ^.^

enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
#19 - 2016-10-06 11:45:12 UTC
I would like to donate a character to her account. Anybody know who I contact to make this happen? I'm not sure if she would want that but the character name is Olivia.


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Olivia
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-10-06 12:20:06 UTC
No, really? Are you f#@cken serious?

"Woman tried to kill herself 'cause of playing EvE. Let's make a citadel for her and let everybody know 'bout it!" - "Yeah, great idea!!"

"I'll donate a char for her in game that almost killed her!" - "Yeah, brilliant!! Do it!"

It looks like you, guys, got too much EvE.

Don't get me wrong - i'm really sorry for dat drek happened, i'm sorry for Olivia troubles and wish her the best, imma totally sorry-ass. But. If you're attemping to kill yourself 'cause someone call ya names in the f#@cken GAME, the problem is not in the game, and not in the community, and not in some dumbasses who don't know when to kick and when to hug and head-scratch. The problem is in ya.
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