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[Proposal] Planetary Interaction 2.1 - [PI Future Vision Roadmap]

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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#1 - 2011-12-21 22:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Due to the sheer size of this proposal, I have compiled it into a pdf file and hosted it. Please download the 624kb file from the link provided below:

Planetary Interaction 2.1

*The file is clean. The site itself is like imageshack or photobucket for small files. Feel free to scan the file for viruses if you are somewhat anal about security.



F&I topic is located here:

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Corazani
Oracle Phoenix
#2 - 2011-12-21 23:22:42 UTC
I'm getting warm fuzzies reading this beast. And I'm only on page 11.
tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
Twilight Military Industrial Complex Alliance
#3 - 2011-12-22 00:05:21 UTC  |  Edited by: tankus2
At last!

well, at last we've gone from step one to two, but at last none of the less!

Edit: I've noticed that you could shave off a few pages by saying that 'MI will be the same as PI' without the need to descriptions, and in the few cases of there being changes just add those changes in. There is no need to repeat what was already said (also may want to consider such with the link and storage facility descriptions too)

Where the science gets done

Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-22 04:32:26 UTC
Finaly Big smile
Li'ara Katarn
Stark Industriez
Stark Enterprises
#5 - 2011-12-22 06:59:17 UTC
My god man

Downloaded, skimmed through the areas I like

+ 10 internets!
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#6 - 2011-12-22 07:15:17 UTC
tankus2 wrote:
At last!

well, at last we've gone from step one to two, but at last none of the less!

Edit: I've noticed that you could shave off a few pages by saying that 'MI will be the same as PI' without the need to descriptions, and in the few cases of there being changes just add those changes in. There is no need to repeat what was already said (also may want to consider such with the link and storage facility descriptions too)


I know.

Laziness set in.

If there is ever a revised and reposted version of this proposal, I'll keep that in mind.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#7 - 2011-12-22 08:49:13 UTC
I didn't read it because the download site looks sketchy,

But if it makes PI take fewer mouse clicks to set up I'll support it.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Evenus Battuta
#8 - 2011-12-22 09:10:51 UTC
The idea is well thought, liked and contributed by many players in the F&I channel. I hope CCP will prove their capability of ’commitment to excellence‘ through adopting wonderful ideas from player like this.

to OP, I will like you with all my accounts and hope for best, but seriously don't get too attached.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#9 - 2011-12-22 13:31:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Evenus Battuta wrote:
The idea is well thought, liked and contributed by many players in the F&I channel. I hope CCP will prove their capability of ’commitment to excellence‘ through adopting wonderful ideas from player like this.

to OP, I will like you with all my accounts and hope for best, but seriously don't get too attached.


Every like counts. =)

I have it on good authority that this document is currently being circulated amongst the powers that be.

The F&I PI 2.0 topic is also a debating ground that sees new ideas pop up almost weekly.

We'll have to wait and see what comes of this tho.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#10 - 2011-12-23 23:28:30 UTC
I look forward to its implementation!

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

Gempei
Marvinovi pratele
The Bastion
#11 - 2011-12-24 09:40:08 UTC
+1
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2011-12-24 09:50:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Zloco Crendraven
Reading trough it. Till now this is looking just brilliant. Well i went trough version 1.0 and u mate are just amasing.
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1

But got one question. How u plan to do the population birth and death. I mean it should all go in real time.. And i dont know entirely the story of new eden, but i dont think there should be lot of population on those plantes.

I mean if every player can build cities of million of population wldnt be in line with the story i think. Shouldnt it be that every player can build a small encampment of few dozens of ppl who will work, support and defend the PI production.

BALEX, bringing piracy on a whole new level.

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#13 - 2011-12-24 12:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Zloco Crendraven wrote:
Reading trough it. Till now this is looking just brilliant. Well i went trough version 1.0 and u mate are just amasing.
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1

But got one question. How u plan to do the population birth and death. I mean it should all go in real time.. And i dont know entirely the story of new eden, but i dont think there should be lot of population on those plantes.

I mean if every player can build cities of million of population wldnt be in line with the story i think. Shouldnt it be that every player can build a small encampment of few dozens of ppl who will work, support and defend the PI production.


1 player will not be able to build a city with many millions of people in it.. unless he has like... 10 accounts and uses each alt he has at a cost of many billions of isk to setup.

These populations will start at 500 (per civilian command center) and increase with a % every day or so (this is automatic, based on the type of planet and the type of buildings/setup the player opted for), ultimately taking many months to reach the hundred thousand mark (depending on how well they can play sim city). So in that aspect, individual players will have very small networks with very small "encampments" as you put it, with a small amount of people on it.

At the end of the day, the population on civilian networks and in larger cities will not defend themselves. That is the job of Eve pilots and Dust mercs. Actual players will have to defend their PI and MI civilian populations against:

Other Eve players
Dust players
Economic ruin
Incursions

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2011-12-24 13:36:47 UTC
Good good, it is excellent. I love sim city. Well if these ideas get implemented EVE online would just be a perfect game. Would offer so much contet for everyone.

BALEX, bringing piracy on a whole new level.

Daniel L'Siata
Adversity.
Snuffed Out
#15 - 2011-12-24 14:32:38 UTC
Holy crap...

+1
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#16 - 2011-12-24 15:33:49 UTC
As I say to everyone who brings up similar ideas, CCP has game designers already. They are usually good at their job, and are almost always far better than players are at this sort of thing. The chances of them seeing a proposal like this and fully adopting it are basically 0.

In this specific case, CCP had a ton of stuff *planned* for PI, and it turned out to be too much work to implement, so they started cutting features, and we ended up with the system we have now, which is boring and lacks any sort of "game". PI is also where the DUST link will come into play, and they already need to figure out how to make that compelling, fun, and interesting.

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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#17 - 2011-12-24 16:16:17 UTC
CCP should start a developer program in a similar way that Smartphone app markets work. Create a framework where third parties can implement additions similar to this which are then accepted by CCP to be put in Eve.

Lot less work for CCP, lot more Sandbox.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#18 - 2011-12-24 16:38:53 UTC
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
CCP should start a developer program in a similar way that Smartphone app markets work. Create a framework where third parties can implement additions similar to this which are then accepted by CCP to be put in Eve.

Lot less work for CCP, lot more Sandbox.


I think this is just an amazing idea.

Setup a new sandbox test server, or allow players to install an offline sandbox test server on their machines. Code the changes, que the changes for upload to a central test server. Get some feedback going.

Once we have consensus on that addition, it could be migrated to SiSi for community/User acceptance testing.

If it passes mustard, CCP migrates it to TQ.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
#19 - 2011-12-24 16:43:52 UTC
Supported

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||

Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-24 19:32:09 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Due to the sheer size of this proposal, I have compiled it into a pdf file and hosted it. Please download the 624kb file from the link provided below:

Planetary Interaction 2.1

*The file is clean. The site itself is like imageshack or photobucket for small files. Feel free to scan the file for viruses if you are somewhat anal about security.



This is the most amazing proposal that I think I've ever seen on EVE. Great effrot. I REALLY hope CCP looks at this and takes it seriously.

CSM, now its your turn. Do your job and push this forth.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

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