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Every year, there are less users playing, why??

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Denavit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-07-15 20:51:29 UTC
Is is because PLEX prices, i remember buying them at 550mill, 500mill, now is almost 1bill, or is it because the changes are making oldSchoolers quit?
Elenahina
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-07-15 20:53:33 UTC
Denavit wrote:
Is is because PLEX prices, i remember buying them at 550mill, 500mill, now is almost 1bill, or is it because the changes are making oldSchoolers quit?


Yes and yes, as well as other reasons, such as an aging player base that has less free time.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Kaivarian Coste
Whale Patrol
#3 - 2016-07-15 21:00:24 UTC
Maybe my memory is fuzzy but I seem to recall when PLEX was only 350m. I remember when belts would be stripped bare in most high sec systems. And this wasn't too long ago (maybe 4 or 5 years when I first signed up?)
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-07-15 21:06:53 UTC
Plex used to be 1.2B.

Either supply as spiked, or demand has dropped.

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Elenahina
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-07-15 21:08:50 UTC
Kaivarian Coste wrote:
Maybe my memory is fuzzy but I seem to recall when PLEX was only 350m. I remember when belts would be stripped bare in most high sec systems. And this wasn't too long ago (maybe 4 or 5 years when I first signed up?)


When they were first introduced...I remember that as well.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2016-07-15 21:24:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
There are lots of other games to play, and CCP's latest developments seem to revolve around the further fleecing monetization of existing players, and attracting short-attention-span pay2win types of new players who don't stick around very long and are distracted easily.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#7 - 2016-07-15 21:49:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevyn Auscent
MMO's popularity in general is dropping, with MPORG's (Think I got that right) and CCG's taking over the market. If you put the growth fall curve of most MMO's next to EVE's EVE continued to grow for longer and is falling much slower than most. Meaning CCP is actually doing a lot of things right.

Most of the ones claiming 'success' are P2W F2P MMO's where they have a small core of players spending huge sums a month, and they claim everyone who has ever made an account even for 1 hour of game play as a 'player'. So when they talk about 7 million players or what have you, they aren't talking about concurrent logins or anything like active accounts. They are talking about total accounts ever. Which if CCP released the figures I'm guessing would actually be huge in EVE. Even total accounts that ever subscribed would be a significant number.

Recent development decisions may have a small impact on the player numbers, but I would expect that a lot of it is based on economic & social factors which are utterly out of CCP's control.
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2016-07-15 22:56:52 UTC
The two reasons you've listed are not it / don't cover all the possible reasons why. This thread is going to devolve into lots of opinions, without any data or proof to back any of them.

And a lot of the opinions are just going to bash CCP, which is just going to **** them off and devolve into flaming anyway.

This thread is a flame bait thread. Posting "why does this game suck?" on a game's primary forum is a troll post.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#9 - 2016-07-15 23:27:26 UTC
many reasons, but none 100%. As the reason people stop playing are subjective. You also can;t take the eve-offline pcu numbers to be the be all that ends all, as there are lots of people who are playing training online, and just leave a few accounts accruing skill points but they don;t need to long into due to the queue.

We are actually up a bit form last year. But as its summer, we should start dipping some in players. I still predict a decent rebound next year, which the trend was started but has since sorta turned stable

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Denavit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-07-15 23:47:23 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
The two reasons you've listed are not it / don't cover all the possible reasons why. This thread is going to devolve into lots of opinions, without any data or proof to back any of them.

And a lot of the opinions are just going to bash CCP, which is just going to **** them off and devolve into flaming anyway.

This thread is a flame bait thread. Posting "why does this game suck?" on a game's primary forum is a troll post.


Im asking in a good way, i've never said this game sucked, i love this game and thas why i am asking, because i see it, and i want more ppl to play. Im just trying to figure out why ppl stoped playing.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#11 - 2016-07-16 00:16:38 UTC
Many more options - many of which are free to play on cell phones.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-07-16 00:45:43 UTC
About 70-80% of my recreational computer use is done via mobile devices now.

Not saying that's the reason. It's way too complex an issue to assign a single reason. For me anyway, it is a contributor to less overall time in game. I still play daily, but not the same amount of time I used to.

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Emiko P'eng
#13 - 2016-07-16 01:37:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Emiko P'eng
As a talk at Fanfest showed the majority of the Plex price increase especially the spikes can be attributed to the 'Real World' exchange rate of the Russian Ruble & the US Companies financing the Fracking of oil with loans they are having trouble paying back!

EVE Fanfest 2016 - LAB-M: EVE and the Economics of War the detailed description is about 37mins in

If you told me before that talk that the above was the reason for high Plex prices I would have not believed it Lol
It just goes to show how Real EVE is Big smile

The other thing from Fanfest is the Pillars of the EVE Online Economy Infographic which shows just how much ISK exists in the EVE Universe.
Princess Adhara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-07-16 01:37:49 UTC
Posting in an "Eve is dying" thread! \o/
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#15 - 2016-07-16 01:47:45 UTC
People went to the F2P market which actually isnt F2P and is more expensive than a sub game. There are people who spend hundreds of dollars A DAY on these games. One of the more advertised of these, game of war, is actually one of the biggest money sinks ever created. The f2p games ive tried are nothing bur p2w pyramid schemes. Ill stick to sub games.


I think one of eve's problem is commitment required. Game of war, you can log in for like 10 minutes then log out and actually do something in game. In eve you log in for 10 minutes you can fly between docks. Im not saying they should put things in docks. But eve requires a bigger commitment...and as it was said a PC. A lot of people are glued to their phones. PCs themselves are less popular than they were 5 years ago and so are pc non mobile games.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2016-07-16 02:35:30 UTC
Its a 13 year old game. Despite CCPs insistence that updates make it EvE not 13 years old it still is.

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MidnightWyvern
The Bosena Accords
#17 - 2016-07-16 03:37:58 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Denavit wrote:
Is is because PLEX prices, i remember buying them at 550mill, 500mill, now is almost 1bill, or is it because the changes are making oldSchoolers quit?


Yes and yes, as well as other reasons, such as an aging player base that has less free time.

People seem to keep discounting that one. A lot of the original 2003 crowd are growing up, settling down, or just moving on with their lives.

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Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#18 - 2016-07-16 04:48:52 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its a 13 year old game. Despite CCPs insistence that updates make it EvE not 13 years old it still is.

Eve has had pretty much every part of it upgraded to new technology more than once. Its actually not really much different in terms of tech than other much newer space games ive played.

Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-07-16 05:42:24 UTC
Eve Off-line data

We're actually pretty stable in terms of logged in players. We don't have the 45k average of the last 5 years, but haven't dropped off a cliff yet.
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-07-16 05:43:36 UTC
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its a 13 year old game. Despite CCPs insistence that updates make it EvE not 13 years old it still is.

Eve has had pretty much every part of it upgraded to new technology more than once. Its actually not really much different in terms of tech than other much newer space games ive played.




That, and the gameplay remains very different than most other options out there. (If someone has experience with Star Citizen or No Man's Sky that can tell us differently, please do so.)
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