Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We have a lot ships in EVE, many of them was added in patches before, but how many of them from large size?
How many battle ships was introduced for last years? On the other hand small size (frigs and dests) have.... dozens of new ships and types.
What about large ships? Battleships needs love and attention (BCs too, but this thread aboy BSs)

Ordinary battleships have no role bonus, meantime a lot of smaller T1 ships have (T1 BCs for example).

I guess that it would be great to add role bonus to all BSs (T1, Navy, pirate and T2) +1-2 warp strenght and probably somekind of weapon bonus like 25% tracking to the large guns.

Also turret BSs needs weapons to hit smaller targets, like missile ships, who have rapid launchers, so, my opinion that small size weapon batteries to fit in large size must be in the game.
For example Small beam laser battery for amarr ships. Small charges (probably few in one turret), large size and fiting demands, working with ship bonuses.
In the name of the balance please, not only rapid heavy missiles must be a weapon in solo BS PvP.

Next question is not so important, but it would be cool to see new T2 BSs.
It would be great to see new marauders and BOs, or maybe new comand BSs with 4 links aboard

Everything is IMO
PS I want black khanid missile fitted T2 Abadon :)

Ships don't need role bonuses if they don't need role bonuses

What role would new T2 battleships fill which hasn't already been covered?

Also turret based battleships don't need a tracking bonus... that is why we got Tracking Computers.

Oh, look, you figured out the role of Marauders all on your own. Must be pretty clear then.


Yeah... no. The thing about PvE is that you know what to expect before you enter the site. It's not really difficult to plan ahead when you know what's going to be coming at you. Even then, unless you're totally incompetent, it's not going to be an issue to de-aggress for 60s, wait for the weapons timer to expire, then refit.


Sure, it's not 100% immune anymore, but 1,000% bonus to sensor strength and 95% reduction in effectiveness of all other forms of EWAR makes little difference from total immunity. EWAR from rats isn't going to have any impact on it, but a group of other players will, which is the intention as far as I know.

Weapon timer? I am not aware that you receive a weapon timer from shooting NPCs. You should not mistake the NPC aggression timer with the weapon timer.

Interesting, I must have missed that when it was introduced.

it was put in for station games

Lol and more Lol @ you. Would you like some laxatives with your anal condescending attitude?

So just as an example of knowing what is in a site lets take a c5 anom. With solo marauder the entire intention is to go in with refits in order to clear the site as efficiently as possible. Combat refitting is an acquired skill and used in many forms of higher class pve. Can it be done faster or easier with other ships, sure, do I want to? Not all the time no.

The weapons timer did nerfbat alot of pve activities that were niche specifically to marauder content. As someone else did already say as well CCP goofed as usual with the fact that alot of npc's will bypass ewar resistance against the bastion module and you will catch full effect.

I would like to see your vast competence sit with sub t1 battleship resist profile out of bastion for a full minute in a c5 site while your timer de-agresses.

Your idea of player vs rat immunity is currently ass backwards as well. 95% resistance against say a lock range script or the like on a golem that already has 200 km cruise and a base locking range of 125 km in pvp will do jack.

95% resists against the chance to jam from a falcon is also a lol. Soo a ship that already has a % chance to be effective against a ship that has a 95% resist against that. I'm thinking that is a 1 out of 5000 cycle chance in the end to jam.

You should maybe be more proficient in your information before being so arrogant in a post next time.

Btw, weapon tomer of bastion module must be removed, it have no sence, especially in comparison with siege module (correct me if i wrong)
Anyway, BSs are more expencive, longer trainable and mostly rarely used ships amongst subcapitals and this must be corrected.
My main opinion that they must be slightly boosted. What it will be?
additional warp strenght and speed, additional slots (imo they must not have less then 5 slots in slot group), new weapon turrets, roles or anything else.
I will be happy if CCp will open discussion with players and invite to the discussion those, who want to operate those ships at first time.

You're wrong. Go learn what station games are, then figure out how broken bastion was for station games before CCP added the weapon timer.


Battleships have their place, and they fit into it quite nicely. The simple fact that the meta has shifted to smaller, more maneuverable ships doesn't mean battleships are now broken. Eventually the meta will shift again, and battleships will start being widely used once more.