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Low vs Null DED complexes - Sansha
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Captn' Crunch
Hold Crop - Passive
#1 - 2016-04-26 21:26:28 UTC
Hi all,
I am looking into flying some DED/Combat sites, but have a few questions. I have run a few in Hi-Sec, but want to run them in low/null. I appreciate any help and/or feedback.

1- Sansha vs...
I like Amarr space, and enjoy fighting Sansha. Are they worth while? I know they may not be the most profitable faction to run; is it just stupid not moving to another rejoin and running another factions complexes?

2- Low VS Null
I honestly prefer null as I find it a little quieter. I will be probably running 2 ships: scanning frigate for relic sites & scout, and T3 cruiser (re #3 below). I know the sites will be harder in Null. Can a (reasonably, not over-blinged) T3 handle DED 7/10? I know they can handle the 6/10.

Is it smarter to stick to low for 5/10 and 6/10?

3- T3 Choice
What would be the best bet for ships (based on answers to #1 and #2 above)? I am thinking Legion or Tengu.

I really like the idea of a beam Legion, but understand it isn't always the best and have read some very bad opinions of it (for missiles I'd go Tengu, not HAM Legion). I was thinking something like Zhilia Mann's fit in link below:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4733239

For the Tengu, does anyone have suggestions as to a good fit currently?


Thank you for the help, I really appreciate it.
REQUIEMSORN
BOOM BOOM POW
#2 - 2016-04-27 00:03:50 UTC
Sansha can be pretty profitable, but as with any ded it's all RNG. You'll want the tengu though over a beam legion simply because of the mass tracking disruption of sansha rats.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2016-04-27 02:03:11 UTC
Unsurprisingly, I like the Legion.

That fit handles 7/10s with ease. 7s, though, just aren't all that profitable. I'd rather get cruiser A-types than battleship C-types any day. The step up in total bounties does not, for me, make 7s worth the effort.

Tengus just don't thrive against BR/Sansha. You get more damage out of EM missiles despite the kinetic bonus -- and that really drives damage down. They're minimally workable; I've run up through 7/10s against BR with a Tengu. I just don't prefer the experience. At all.
Captn' Crunch
Hold Crop - Passive
#4 - 2016-04-27 02:48:36 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Unsurprisingly, I like the Legion.

That fit handles 7/10s with ease. 7s, though, just aren't all that profitable. I'd rather get cruiser A-types than battleship C-types any day. The step up in total bounties does not, for me, make 7s worth the effort.

Tengus just don't thrive against BR/Sansha. You get more damage out of EM missiles despite the kinetic bonus -- and that really drives damage down. They're minimally workable; I've run up through 7/10s against BR with a Tengu. I just don't prefer the experience. At all.


Thank you very much. I appreciate the feedback; especially as it is your fit I found and really liked. I think I am going to go ahead with the Legion. I have always wanted to fly one in Eve (I like laser, and hate missiles). I can always move my Tengu pilot to different space where the kinetic bonus will do more if I want to fly that.
Matt Benneth
Strictly Moral Support
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#5 - 2016-04-28 09:29:26 UTC
Also don't ignore unrated complexes, those can be quite profitable as well. Just take in account that unrated plexes and their escalations tend to be very unpredictable in damage output and ewar, with almost all of them having webs and scrams present at some point.

So its best to do your research before you venture into them Big smile...and be careful when you shoot webbing towers, I learned the hard way that one webbing tower in some in seemingly easy site spawns wave of 8 battleships accompanied by many battlecruisers, cruisers and elite frigates... RIP my SacBig smile
Captn' Crunch
Hold Crop - Passive
#6 - 2016-04-28 16:55:38 UTC
Matt Benneth wrote:
Also don't ignore unrated complexes, those can be quite profitable as well. Just take in account that unrated plexes and their escalations tend to be very unpredictable in damage output and ewar, with almost all of them having webs and scrams present at some point.

So its best to do your research before you venture into them Big smile...and be careful when you shoot webbing towers, I learned the hard way that one webbing tower in some in seemingly easy site spawns wave of 8 battleships accompanied by many battlecruisers, cruisers and elite frigates... RIP my SacBig smile


Awesome, thank you for the advice; especially concerning the webbing tower. I plan on doing research into any complex before running it... and will skip anything I have doubts on (especially early on). I have flown lots of L4s, but have gotten lazy with them in my marauder. Will need to be careful with sites which actually require me to fly and manage distance, etc. rather than just sitting in bastion like a blob. I am looking at doing these complexes for fun (i.e. to increase the skill required and excitement/danger).

I may run the Legion on a few Sansha and Blood L4s just to warm-up in high-sec before flying it out to null. I use to run ships that actually required flying and management.... but that was a while ago; before I took a break from Eve, and got lazy.