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Anna Price
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-04-09 21:27:42 UTC
Hi! :)

I've been playing for almost two weeks now I think, and I really like the game so far!

I started out doing the career missions and the sisters epic questline, and the last days have been spent getting into exploring. I really like exploring (and I've got like 350kk isk out of it so far), but would like some ideas on something else to do as well. I imagine it will get quite boring if that is the only thing I do. The missions I've done so far (sisters epic) didn't really give much isk, but it was kinda fun ^^ I guess you get more isk from harder missions, but I'm not sure how to get into that as I heard that mission running doesn't really give you much isk unless you do the hardest ones, which requires heavy skill investment and a lot of isk to do. Mining seems ok as well, but I heard that it's no point to do unless you have heavy skill investment and multibox in null sec (so not for me I guess). I would like to mention that getting a lot of isk is not my goal, I honestly just want to have fun - but doing really inefficient activities that isn't super fun probably will probably make me dislike the activity after some time.

I've tried to generalize a bit for my skills by following a plan on eve uni, and I've also invested a bit in exploring as that has been my primary activity the last week. So I'm looking for some advice on trying some other aspects of Eve, any ideas? Also any skill recommendations would be appreciated :)
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2016-04-09 23:25:55 UTC
Definitely find and join some sort of corp.

Example: one of the rookie-friendly corps that are currently mixing it up, like say Pandemic Horde, or perhaps Dreddit.

EVE is a lot more fun with a bunch of (crazy) friends.
Memphis Baas
#3 - 2016-04-10 00:04:45 UTC
Anna Price wrote:
I heard that mission running doesn't really give you much isk unless you do the hardest ones, which requires heavy skill investment and a lot of isk to do.


Keep in mind that not everybody will have YOUR situation in mind when spewing one-liner "advice" on some chat channel.

The ISK situation is as follows:

1. The game IS balanced to give you sufficient ISK for the stage of development that you're at, for a similar amount of effort to other MMO games where you also have to work at getting money.

2. The game is also balanced to allow a progression: the harder missions require bigger, more tanked ships, and they cost more money and require more skills trained, but that's the point of the game. You train skills in this game to unlock bigger sips (or different ships) to do something with them. The ships are tools for doing something; they are roles that you can take in a group situation, and the point of the game is to unlock them.

3. At the same time, the game has been around for more than 10 years, so of course there are super-rich players around, and you'll feel the need to compare yourself with them. They've mined for 10 years and have accumulated A LOT of ISK, and there is no in-game activity that you can do to catch up with that in 2 weeks. Because the game is balanced by the devs to be somewhat fair.

4. So, if you absolutely need to "catch up", you can spend $20 (or more) to buy a PLEX from the Accounts webpage, and then sell said PLEX on the market for approx. 1 billion ISK, which will suffice for quite some time. From CCP's point of view, the 10-year veterans have paid 10 years of subscription fees; if you want to catch up, you can but it will cost similar amounts of RL cash. But you don't need to take it to the extreme; as I said, a PLEX is 1 billion, sufficient for a LONG time.


So that's the situation. Now, about in-game activities, here's how the game is organized:

1. High-sec space is really "newbieland", but a lot of people prefer to stay in high-sec and "be safe", because they completely miss the point of the game, which is to have fun PVP fights with friends. In any case, as a result, high-sec is very crowded and you have everyone competing for the newbie-level resources available. The asteroids only have the low-end ore, the exploration sites have the low-end enemies and loot, etc. You can make money in high-sec but it will take a long long time.

2. If you try to play the game solo, it will be harder, as you have to provide for yourself, all by yourself. Join a corp, on the other hand, and they may give you free ships, free money, and certainly free advice. But the best thing that corps provide is organized activities (ops), hunting, etc., which is where the fun is. This is why everybody suggests that you join a corp. It has to be a GOOD corp, however; most of the corps in high-sec suck, because there's nothing to do, really, everything is "safe".

3. Anyway, all the activities are organized in an increasing scale:

a. You can start very easily, put a Miner laser on a frigate and go mining. Jump into a frigate with some guns, talk to any agent, and go do some level 1 missions. Get a simple blueprint (like ammo), toss it into an industry slot, make some ammo. It's easy. It's designed to let you do everything so you can see what you like.

b. Progressing requires some skills to be trained and some better ships to be unlocked. You go from mining frigate to the Tech 2 versions, or to mining barges and exhumers. You go from combat frigates to cruisers to battleships. You go from a single production run to 10, and more effective, researched blueprints. This is the game; you shouldn't be afraid to train up the various ship lines for whatever activities are fun for you.

c. Activities pay more in lowsec, null, or wormhole space: there are better and better asteroids, bigger rewards from agents or exploration sites, bigger bounties on the NPC enemies, rare loot drops. Of course, it'll be tougher fights against the NPCs, so you'll need the higher-end ships.

d. You also have to deal with other players, who will be more than happy to see you and shoot you. Because the fun in this game is PVP, adrenaline rush, and they're looking for it. So, again this is where it's good to be in a GOOD corp with friends who can defend you and help you PVP when needed.


Finally, for agents specifically, here is how you progress:

1. You have to ASK for missions; agents in this game don't offer them unless asked.

2. There's an Agent Finder app in the bar on the left, click the = horizontal lines at the top of the bar and look for it. It will help you find agents.

3. Pick a corp that has the missions that you want, such as Caldari Navy or Federation Navy or whatever, and limit your agent search to just their agents. Go to where the agents are and ask them for missions.

4. Level 1 missions require a frigate, level 2 a cruiser, level 3 a battlecruiser, level 4 a battleship. Level 1 missions are available right away, 2, 3, 4 can be unlocked once you gain enough standings with the corp (Caldari Navy) that the higher level agents become available.

5. As you go to bigger ships, your support skills (armor, shields, targeting, navigation, engineering, electronics, etc.) will have to be trained more and more, because the bigger ships require solid defense skills. You'll also have to train weapon skills for these bigger weapons that the ships use. So, you're progressing.
Memphis Baas
#4 - 2016-04-10 00:29:38 UTC
The in-game market interface is also an encyclopedia; it has everything listed, and you can just browse and look up info on every item, read stats and what skills are required, etc.

The skills are organized in various categories, which are the same on the market and in your character sheet. Players organize skills in 4 groups:

1. Ship skills - under the Spaceship Command category - these will unlock new ships for you. Each ship has a skill required; train it and the ship is unlocked.

2. Weapon skills - Gunnery, Missiles, Drones - you need to unlock the weapons for the ships that you've unlocked. Frigates use small guns, light missiles and rockets, and/or light scout drones. Cruisers use medium, battleships use large. Caldari use hybrid guns and missiles, Amarr use lasers and drones, etc.

3. Support skills - Armor, Shields, Navigation, Engineering, Electronics, Targeting, etc. - these skills make ALL your ships fly better, by increasing their armor, shields, speed, energy, target range, etc. For frigates, you can survive with these skills trained to 2, cruisers 3, battleships 4 - 5. As you go up in ship sizes, don't forget to keep up with training these support skills.

4. Non-combat skills - Industry, Reprocessing, Corporation, Trade, Social, Science - these skills are related to PVE activities, and you should train as needed. Keep in mind that even the most hardened PVP-only pirate can use the ability to pilot a transport ship, lower taxes on the market, the ability to reprocess the junk loot to minerals for sale, etc.

Combat pilots typically train the ships for 1 or 2 races; each race can do everything relatively well, but 2 races can provide enough different choices to make your game more enjoyable.

- Amarr ships use lasers and drones, and armor defenses.
- Caldari ships use hybrid guns and missiles, and shield defenses.
- Gallente ships use hybrid guns and drones, and armor defenses.
- Minmatar ships use projectile weapons, missiles, and some drones, and shield or armor defenses depending on the ship.

You can expect to have some 180-250 different skills trained, within a few months. Other games give you a few abilities and that's it, in this game skills don't give you abilities per se, they just unlock gear for you to use, or give you 5% bonus here 5% bonus there, and you accumulate bonuses from all these different skills to double or triple your effectiveness.

Ship lines (there's a Ship Chart in-game where you can see all the ships) are like this:

1. T1 ships (frigates, destroyers, cruisers, battlecruisers, battleships, capital ships) are extremely versatile (can be fitted in many ways) and offer a progression of increased sizes for increased damage and defenses.

2. T2 ships are super-specialized versions of the T1 ships of the same size. Interceptors are all about speed, recon cruisers are about cloaky operations, logistics are healers, etc. These ships are mostly for PVP because specialized ships have 1 strength and many weaknesses, so you need a fleet of friends to help defend you, and to provide your ships' services to.

3. T3 ships are very expensive do-it-all platforms (cloak AND jamming AND damage AND tank), or have some special abilities that other ships don't have. Because they're so expensive, you need to be a bit of an expert at the game to fly them properly.

4. Capital ships are intended for groups. They only function in lowsec or null space (can't even enter high-sec), and they are NOT solo ships; they are intended to be flown with a large support fleet defending you from harm.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-04-10 01:09:21 UTC
It sounds to me like you've been listening to far too many min / maxers from other games who came here and never gave this game a shot and therefore never learned it and are bitter.

Do what you enjoy doing and forget about the isk.

I've heard from people that claim that characters that are only a handful of months old can make a lot of money running missions in high sec. Also combat is combat so skill points into mission running will work in null sec PvE as well as PvP or pretty much anything that involves spaceships.

However keep in mind that Eve is a fleet game and a PvP focused fleet game at that. You can do what ever you want in this sandbox of a game but from what everyone says the PvP is what makes this game stand out.

To be fair and honest however I feel it neccessary to point out that I am a carebear so you might want to take that with a grain of salt.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli
Dani Gallar
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-04-10 09:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Dani Gallar
Good advice above and I can only add to the do what you enjoy and don´t focus on ISK crowd. EVE:s training system encourage players to take a broad approach and cover most if not all bases. As a new player it's probably good to try out as much as possible but at the same time don´t feel forced to do so if you find something you like to do.

I'm primarily focusing on Exploration (not training wise though since I'm not done with basic training yet) and find it thrilling to look around in Wormholes with the ever present risk of getting blown to pieces. If you haven´t already I'd recommend going outside High-Sec space for exploration both for the added danger and the fact that you can strike big on loot.

On mission running it should be noted that ISK isn´t really what you are after but instead it's the Loyalty Points you get which can then be used to buy high-end stuff at a reduced price. Most stuff from Loyalty Point stores can be found on the Market though so if you don´t enjoy missions just go for something else and buy the stuff you need from other players instead. There's also social skills that can be trained to increase the profit from missions to make them less grindy.

Finally on joining player corps be aware of the big war raginig on where most of the newbie-friendly corps are participants. This means that if you join say Pandemic Horde you are guaranteed PvP which I guess is both something good and bad depending on the view you have. If you find you really like Exploration you can also go for Signal Cartel which is a Corporation that specializes in Exploration. They do have some rules of engagement that will limit your gameplay in other areas of EVE.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-04-10 09:23:52 UTC
There's been a lot of things said that I really can't agree with.

At no point in time is this game all about PVP pew pew. It's definitely a content generated but not the end all be all. You still need people doing logistics, mining, manufacturing etc. Without pew pew things don't get blown up. If things aren't going boom then there's less of a demand of things made. When stuff don't need to be made minerals don't need to be bought. Etc.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people like trading, others space trucking, wierdos who like to mine and watch netflix, etc.

Whatever you want to do, that's what you should do. Just don't be afraid to make mistakes, lose ships, get your pod blown up, etc. Cause in the end, it's just space pixels.

Also, you can make ******** amounts of money in high sec. If you know how to. Think of all that money that changes hand each day in all the major trade hubs. All that dank ISK made out in low/null sec? Where do you think it goes?

Where do you think the majority of trading toons are? In high sec.

Guess the destinations of most jump freighters? Low <-> High. Null <-> High.

There are a few trade hubs out in various null sec regions. But even combined they don't even make a fraction of what goes through Jita on a daily basis.

My main concern for our fellow newbro/bras? Not sure on the feminine term.....regardless. My main concern for the newbies are that they're too scared to go out to low/null sec. They might think they don't have enough SP, isk or whatever.

You'll find that any decent corp/alliance/coalition have TONS of people just itching to help you out. You can easily rat out in low/null sec straight out of the box...once you learn how from others. Might not be able to do anomalies day one, but you can definitely belt/gate rat in a t1 frigate/dessi. Might not be time efficient but it's do able. A much better option would be to salvage after other people ratting. A lot of people don't loot/salvage if it's not a faction drop because it's not isk p/hour efficient. They're usually more then happy to let you come by and hoover behind them.

Mining out in low/null sec is easy peasy too....in mining groups. If you haven't cottoned on, talking/learning from others is key to survival and flourishing anywhere. It is after all a MMO.

PVP you'll find newbies welcome too. Everybody loves extra tackle, ewar frigates, t1 logi, etc.

So OP, as for what you want to do. I suggest try everything.

You find you like doing exploration/hacking? Give it a shot. Find a wormhole? Explore it to see how far down it goes. Heck there are websites up that will pay for this intel.

Maybe you like mining, trading, space trucking..whatever you desire. Try it and see if you like it.
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2016-04-10 14:22:04 UTC
Amanda Chan wrote:
fellow newbro/bras? Not sure on the feminine term...


bro = brother
sis = sister

Thus, newbro/newsis.
Anna Price
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-04-10 15:03:51 UTC
Thank you so much for taking the time to write out those large posts - I really appreciate it!! Lots of good information :D
It seems like joining a corp would be really fun, and I've wanted to try that out after a while. It's good news that I don't need a huge skillset in order to contribute! Actually, that was one of the things that has made me wait with joining one.

I've looked at some corps and it seems like most of them require a mic and participation on voice com. I don't really want to do that, as I've had very bad experiences with that in other mmos. There are just so many creepy guys that play games, and I've been borderline stalked a couple of times before - and when I quit playing two of those mmos, those creeps were one of the major contributing reasons for quitting the games. I get enough unwanted attention in real life, and I just don't want that in games. I just want to relax and have fun! So I don't want to share my real name, social media profiles, show any pictures of me or talk on TS/vent/skype or whatever. Of course - most of the players I've played with haven't been creeps like that, but when some are, then I just want to take that precaution. Also the "OMG girl" comments are also incredibly annoying, I just want to be treated like everyone else. If there are any good corps that doesn't require me to talk on voice com or share any private information, I would really appreciate if you could mention some of them so I can maybe try them out.

I don't really expect to have even close to the isk or skill points as the veterans in this game, but I do want to progress. I did buy 3 PLEX which I sold and bought 4 skill injectors, an outfit, a fully fitted astero (which I can't use that well yet, but probably at the end of next week) and some nice implants. That helped a lot :)

I've been exploring a lot, but I haven't done high sec at all. The first time I tried it I just went into a wormhole and I've kept running wormholes since then. It's really profitable and fun :) Just use a heron though, so I can't fight other explorers yet. But I'm really looking forward to doing that!! I love pvp, so I want to do that in the future when I got better ships and skills! :)

I'm not sure if you can see my skills on the forum, but if you have any specific advice, I would appreciate any help! Especially for pvp! As well as any ships for doing lvl 2 missions maybe?

I have played several MMOs before, so I'm used to min/maxing. But the thing that I really like about Eve, is that it's just so different from anything I've played before. So I'm having a lot of fun trying to digest all this information!I really want to do lots of different things, so I don't want to specialize yet.

Could you tell me about space trucking? I haven't heard about that before. I've just traded a bit, done a bit of mining, some exploring and a bit of mission running. Also, is ratting doing missions? I've heard that you can also be a pirate - which seems kinda fun :D There is a lot of different things in this game, but I just don't know where to start doing it all :P

Thanks a lot again! This really helps me out <3
Memphis Baas
#10 - 2016-04-10 17:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Creeps in corp is a sign of a bad corp.

Voice comms are critical if the corp does a lot of PVP; for PVE activities, not so much. So basically it depends on what corp you're looking to join, and what their focus is. It's very likely that they'll insist on voice if you join a null, lowsec, or wormhole corp, as it's very difficult to organize a fleet by typing. You can always just listen and mute your microphone, I don't think they'll mind that.

And you can leave the corp if they start misbehaving; it's likely that you'll go through a number of corps until you find a good one.


We can't see your skills, but you can create a restricted API that just allows access to view skills, and set it up on eveboard.com with a password, and then you can reveal it to anyone you wish via in-game mail or private messages, for advice.


Space Trucking is just transporting stuff for people. You need a transport ship (industrial, transporter, freighter, jump freighter), and you can either take up courier contracts (click the contracts button on the toolbar on the left), or you can transport stuff for your corp or friends. Be aware that a lot of people hunt transport ships, because they "drop" juicy loot when destroyed.


Ratting is not the same as doing missions. With missions, you talk to an agent and he sends you on a mission, where you have to go to a location and shoot some targets / rescue a damsel / etc. You get paid for completing the mission, and you can also loot the wrecks of the pirates you've shot.

Ratting is just going from asteroid belt to asteroid belt and shooting the NPC pirates that appear there looking for trouble. In high-sec you only get frigates, but in null you can get all the way up to battleship-sized pirates, with bounties of 500k-1m each. So it can be lucrative.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-04-10 17:40:54 UTC
Anna Price wrote:
Thank you so much for taking the time to write out those large posts - I really appreciate it!! Lots of good information :D
It seems like joining a corp would be really fun, and I've wanted to try that out after a while. It's good news that I don't need a huge skillset in order to contribute! Actually, that was one of the things that has made me wait with joining one.

This is another one of those pre-programmed things that come from playing other MMOs. To me it always seemed silly to have a game where players had to put in lots of "work" and "effort" to get to a high enough "level" to be able to play with other people. Also the "can you contribute" thing from raiding guilds in WoW always seemed silly to me. I mean I get that **** at work but I get paid to be there. I pay to play a game so I'm not paying to be burdened with responsibilities and jobs.

Luckily in Eve the only requirement is if you are fun to play with.
Anna Price wrote:

I've looked at some corps and it seems like most of them require a mic and participation on voice com. I don't really want to do that, as I've had very bad experiences with that in other mmos. There are just so many creepy guys that play games, and I've been borderline stalked a couple of times before - and when I quit playing two of those mmos, those creeps were one of the major contributing reasons for quitting the games. I get enough unwanted attention in real life, and I just don't want that in games. I just want to relax and have fun! So I don't want to share my real name, social media profiles, show any pictures of me or talk on TS/vent/skype or whatever. Of course - most of the players I've played with haven't been creeps like that, but when some are, then I just want to take that precaution. Also the "OMG girl" comments are also incredibly annoying, I just want to be treated like everyone else.

There are corps that do but there are also plenty of corps that don't. I don't think I've ever been on voice coms in this game and I've been playing since 2009.

There are other girls that play this game but it is certainly dominated by males and yes we will be surprised when we see an actual girl in game. Also keep in mind that if we were at all social we probably would not be spending all of our time at home playing computer games. So us socially awkward types tend to gravitate to MMOs as for many of us it is our only chance to be social. I'm afraid if you want to hang out with guys that don't freak out when they get a chance to talk to a female then MMO gaming probably is not the place.

That being said there are girls that play this game and there is even an all girls chat channel. It should not be too difficult for you to stay low profile and just not let on that you are actually a girl if that is what you want to do. As a creepy male myself I doubt I can be all that helpful with advice and I'm hoping someone else who knows will come along here but if you can't figure out how to get in touch with other female Eve players send me an in game mail and I'll try to look into that and get you set up with them.

We had another female come in here with a similar story a month or two ago and there was a 14 or so page threadnaught that developed so maybe looking back over that could prove insightful.
Anna Price wrote:

I don't really expect to have even close to the isk or skill points as the veterans in this game, but I do want to progress. I did buy 3 PLEX which I sold and bought 4 skill injectors, an outfit, a fully fitted astero (which I can't use that well yet, but probably at the end of next week) and some nice implants. That helped a lot :)

I am of the opinion that you will want to drop the idea of progression with reference to this game. I feel that progression is an idea that comes from other linear / scripted MMOs and has no place in this sandbox. I'm not trying to tell you that you have to do it my way I'm just saying if you ask me you are better off letting go of that concept.

The definition of progression is something like "a movement or development toward a destination" which in it's self should show you that has more of a place in scripted / linear MMOs than it does in a sandbox with no inherent end goal or end game.
Anna Price wrote:

I've been exploring a lot...

There is no right or wrong way to play this game. I once read of a player trying to run every single level 4 mission in this game in a T1 frigate. He had done nearly half of them at my last reading of his blog. However the missions are roughly balanced around an intended T1 ship class. So level 1's are "balanced" around a solo frigate pilot. Level 2 around a cruiser and level 3 around a BS and level 4 around a BS where level 5's are intended to be run in fleets. You could have 100 friends in frigates help you run a level 4 if you like.

Ratting is just killing NPCs without the aid of the mission agent. So things like belt ratting or running anoms where you are just killing rats as opposed to a mission where you have a clear goal with a set beginning and end.

PvP in this game is much more about experience than it is skill points or "gear". If you want to get involved in PvP then just do it. You won't be good until you take your lumps and it's just as easy to take them now as when your 5 years into this game.

One of the most famous female pilots in this game was a pirate and I think became a CSM member and iirc she then started the signal cartel which is a non-violent exploration corp, so she's been all over the board. You can make yourself into what ever you want in this game, but no one is going to do it for you. You kind of have to be self motivated in this game and decide what you want to do and then go out and make it happen

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-04-10 17:44:46 UTC
One thing to keep in mind about PvP in this game. There is no queuable PvP. There are no balanced BGs or anything of the sort. So another set of guns or some extra ewar or logi or even just another target for the other fleet to have to shoot at is always welcome.

So don't wait to get into PvP if you are interested. Waiting for skill points is of no use and waiting until you can "contribute" to the fleet will only delay your learning. Also other players will be more likely to fall over themselves to help a brand new player than one who has been playing for years and just is now getting around to PvPing.

I'm not saying no one will help you years from now because certainly they will. I'm just saying it's super easy right now.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#13 - 2016-04-10 19:18:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Demica Diaz
Join corp, I started in EVE University when I was new so perhaps check that out. Be active and join their events. I remember having a lot of fun in roams and faction tournament where of course Gallente ships won. Bear

Do not play EVE solo. Not at least for first year. Trust me.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-04-10 20:28:53 UTC
Don't miss trying industry stuff (invention, production), the ongoing war with a high demand on ships creates some opportunities also for low skill pilots. Exploration in WH and nullsec is already among the few top income sources in the game.

If you want to try fleet PvP and comms in a chill atmosphere, come to Spectre Fleet channel and join one of the many fleets (war fleets get full ship reimbursement). There are a couple of women regularly joining fleets and speaking up on comms. But you are free to listen only, unless you are scouting you don't need to talk on comms, just type in chat.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-04-10 20:59:39 UTC
Anna Price wrote:


I've looked at some corps and it seems like most of them require a mic and participation on voice com. I don't really want to do that, as I've had very bad experiences with that in other mmos. There are just so many creepy guys that play games, and I've been borderline stalked a couple of times before - and when I quit playing two of those mmos, those creeps were one of the major contributing reasons for quitting the games. I get enough unwanted attention in real life, and I just don't want that in games. I just want to relax and have fun! So I don't want to share my real name, social media profiles, show any pictures of me or talk on TS/vent/skype or whatever. Of course - most of the players I've played with haven't been creeps like that, but when some are, then I just want to take that precaution. Also the "OMG girl" comments are also incredibly annoying, I just want to be treated like everyone else. If there are any good corps that doesn't require me to talk on voice com or share any private information, I would really appreciate if you could mention some of them so I can maybe try them out.

Voice comms are usually required for the bonding aspect. Plus it's really easy to get distracted and miss chats. While I am a firm believer that online harassment should not happen, unfortunately it does and sometimes you gotta put them in their place. At no point in time should you ever share PII ( personally identifiable information) unless it's with somebody you really trust. Even then think twice and three times about it.

I don't really expect to have even close to the isk or skill points as the veterans in this game, but I do want to progress. I did buy 3 PLEX which I sold and bought 4 skill injectors, an outfit, a fully fitted astero (which I can't use that well yet, but probably at the end of next week) and some nice implants. That helped a lot :)

I've been exploring a lot, but I haven't done high sec at all. The first time I tried it I just went into a wormhole and I've kept running wormholes since then. It's really profitable and fun :) Just use a heron though, so I can't fight other explorers yet. But I'm really looking forward to doing that!! I love pvp, so I want to do that in the future when I got better ships and skills! :)

I'm not sure if you can see my skills on the forum, but if you have any specific advice, I would appreciate any help! Especially for pvp! As well as any ships for doing lvl 2 missions maybe?

For a combat exploration ship the astero, stratios and tech 3 cruisers are your best bets. Skills are not naturally published. So you would have to use a site like eve board. Just be careful with displaying/giving away to much info like asset location, implants, etc.

I have played several MMOs before, so I'm used to min/maxing. But the thing that I really like about Eve, is that it's just so different from anything I've played before. So I'm having a lot of fun trying to digest all this information!I really want to do lots of different things, so I don't want to specialize yet.

Could you tell me about space trucking? I haven't heard about that before. I've just traded a bit, done a bit of mining, some exploring and a bit of mission running. Also, is ratting doing missions? I've heard that you can also be a pirate - which seems kinda fun :D There is a lot of different things in this game, but I just don't know where to start doing it all :P

Space trucking is literally just that. Moving stuff through space. Nothing in eve moves by itself so there are people who all they do are courier contracts moving stuff from point a,v,c and t. Personally I never understood the appeal but I know a few individuals who do it 23/7 and can talk your ear off about dodged gangs, etc.

Ratting is pretty much killing npcs without traveling much. People in low/null sec would go around to gates and belts killing rats akenpcs. Now a days the term also applies to killing rats in anomalies. Which are just sites where rats spawn at. Missioning isn't the same because it's not allstate a kill objective and often times you have to leave the system to go somewhere else to complete it.

Space pirating is not what it used to be but definitely do able. It's usually done by an innocent looking ship stealing your loot and gearing a suspect flag. You look at the ship and are like man I got this. Only to have this happen. Instead of killing them you can just hold them there for ran some. People usually don't pay anymore because they're rarely honored.

Thanks a lot again! This really helps me out <3
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-04-10 23:26:24 UTC
Hey Tiffany, welcome to EVE. I suggest you join a corp. If it's not the right fit, just leave and join another one! I have been in several corps where females were treated well.

Voice comms are important because people who refuse to join tend to be lying about who they are, and that can be a rather significant thing in EVE Roll

Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli

Titan's Lament
Memphis Baas
#17 - 2016-04-10 23:34:19 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Hey Tiffany, welcome to EVE.


Tiffany reference.
Anna Price
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-04-11 02:25:22 UTC
Thanks again for answering my questions, it's really nice of you :)

Memphis Baas: I don't actually think that creeps in a corp is a sign of a bad corp tbh. Now I can't say for certain about this game as I still haven't joined a corp - but in my experience, just about every guild/legion/corp (or whatever it's called in a game) have some creeps. Most people are normal I guess, but there are always some guys that get weird when they talk/play with women, and they're in like every guild. Often the rest of the guys in guild are surprised when one guy just get super creepy because they didn't have that impression of him before, so just so you know they can be everywhere! :(

I totally get what you are saying about voice comms. It's like that in organized pvp in like every mmo. But if you don't play super serious it's often enough to just be able to listen and type (as long as the others actually pay attention to the chat :P).

I really like the API thing actually. I got Evemon and it's nice! I'm gonna try out ratting and doing some more missions. Maybe space trucking as well ^^

ergherhdfgh: Yeah it's pretty nice that Eve is different there! Leveling is especially boring to do solo :|

I've played mmos for years and there are quite a few normal guys too. I've also played with plenty of girls before, but the majority is guys of course. I can also imagine a game like Eve have way more guys playing due to the space thing. Honestly though, I don't really want to just hang out with people in the game. I really just want to play the game, but being internet social while playing can be pretty fun. I have no problem playing solo in games although it is more fun to play with others. I guess it's because I'm very social irl, so I don't really have the need to talk to people while gaming. I just want to relax and have fun really :) I've tried raiding and stuff in games like wow, but I really don't want any responsibilities in a game anymore because I would never prioritize the game over doing something irl and it's so fun to just have a spontaneous party on a Tuesday or whatever - and I can't do that when I'm in a guild/corp that requires me to attend stuff. So I'm not looking for anything like that in this game, I would rather like to be able to just jump in and do stuff with people but be able to quit when I want if you understand? :)

I don't have anything against you socially awkward guys as long as you don't talk to me all the time or say creepy things to me. And I totally get that it's fun for you guys to talk to a girl online if you're not really used to it. Just try to keep in mind that it's just a person and that she is probably tired of creepy guys coming on to her and showering her with attention. Just talk to her like you would talk to guys and you'll avoid scaring her away. Oh and please stop referring to women as females, it's kinda weird - no offense intended ;)

I've never tried a sandbox mmo so it's just new, I'll try looking at it differently :) It's really interesting that you are able to just make the game your own and do what you want! I'm gonna try to just do some pvp soon and I'll see how it goes, thanks for the advice!

Just one more question - do you think I could do some solo pvp at this point or is that harder? I understand that you can be useful in a fleet and that's really cool, but I want to try out some solo pvp too! :D

Tipa Riot: I'll try out the industry stuff! I recently found a blueprint while exploring and used it to make stuff and sell it, and I made a nice profit - was kinda fun to do. Crafting in games is something I've always liked as long as it had good mechanics!

I don't know how fleets work, so do you think a complete newbie to fleets could join that fleet? It sounds pretty interesting! :)

Amanda Chan: Yeah the sharing of PII is something I really got burned on. The problem was that everyone else in the guild/corp was doing it so it felt kinda weird not joining in on it. Learned my lesson now though. Having some creepy guy you've just played with in a game call you several times a day on a phone number you didn't even give out is really creepy. When he says he's gonna move to your city it gets scary :(

Really looking forward to trying out the astero. But it's kinda scary too as I'm a bit afraid of losing it considering it's so expensive and especially since I've never done any pvp at all yet. I thought I would just try to attack t1 exploration frigates as they can't fight back and run away from everything else until I become better at pvp. What do you mean asset location and implants? I have all my things in jita at the moment, can people steal it? :O And does it matter if they know what implants I use?

Oh I thought being a pirate meant being wanted (having a bounty) and killing people in low sec/ high sec and stuff like ransoming people's ships. I don't really understand the difference between suspect, kill right and criminal. Seen all of those in game, and I googled it - but still not quite clear on what it means. Same with player security rating and stuff like that. Seems kinda fun though :D

Cara Forelli: I don't really understand the Tiffany reference even though Memphis Baas posted her thread. I guess you mean I'm a girl that looks for advice while being new? It's nice to hear that your "females" were treated well in your corps ;)

What do you mean lying about who they are? I've heard about spies playing an important role in the game, but I've not quite understood how spies actually work really. Or are you implying that girls that don't want to join voice comms are really just guys that are looking for attention? Heard that so many times before, and it's pretty annoying actually. Just being a woman in game that is dominated by men isn't that easy due to a few misogynistic assholes and creeps, but having to prove we are girls is just ridiculous. Sorry if that's not what you meant :)
Anna Price
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-04-11 03:13:42 UTC
Feel free to ignore this as it's a bit offtopic, but I just thought I would elaborate a bit on my last point as I see guys talking about it in every game. Also it's a bit of a rant so sorry about that :P

In the last couple of years I haven't spoken on voice communication in games due to reasons mentioned earlier. But I've always felt like I had to explain myself (I shouldn't even need to though) whenever people ask about why I don't want to talk on comms. I guess the few guys that pretend to be girls do it to get attention. I've never met one that has done that myself, but heard about it so many times before. Even if those people were lying about their gender, what would be the big deal? I imagine it's only the awkward guys that want to flirt with them that even cares. It's so incredibly insecure! I guess they're afraid that if they flirt with the girl and that girl turns out to be a guy in disguise it would magically turn them gay or something. It's so ridiculous. Also it perpetuates the myth that there are no girls on the internet. I mean, playing games as a girl has gotten easier over the years but girls still have to put up with so much more **** than guys do. I've known several girls in games that have pretended to be guys just so that they didn't have to deal with the insecure creeps. Personally I don't want to do that myself, but I totally get why they do it.

So in my experience you speak on comms and then some guys start to call you attention whore and some people get jealous and there is drama and so on. When I used to talk on comms some guys were asking me in pm's why I was always flirting with everyone. I guess their inexperience with women makes them believe that when a woman is nice to a guy that means they're flirting, although I do see this irl all the time so I guess it applies to lots men hehe :) On the other hand, if she doesn't want to talk then she is actually a man and has to prove she is a woman by speaking on comms once or posting pictures :|

Again sorry about this, I'm sure most of you do not have this attitude - but I've just seen it way to much and felt like Cara Forelli implied it to some degree (I might be wrong though as I was just drinking with a friend, so I'm not entirely sober - so sorry if I'm mistaken)

I appreciate all the help I've gotten, and I've got a really good impression of the community in Eve so far. There are just so many helpful people <3
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2016-04-11 12:00:57 UTC
Spectre Fleet is newbie friendly, actually in the last weeks we had a lot of people doing PvP for the very first time! You just need to listen carefully and ask questions if you feel lost, preferred in chat ... there are a lot of helpful people who will assist you. As said, speaking up on comms is usually not required in public fleets as there are a lot of "random" people anyway.

I'm my own NPC alt.
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