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Dev blog: Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2016-02-23 16:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Team Security comes with interesting news - as always!

This time we clarify the use of third party tools and overlays. Additionally we have an ISK Buyer Amnesty available under certain conditions!

Read more about these interesting news in the latest dev blog from Team Security Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security

UPDATE: Thanks for all the feedback, please click here for some answers from Team Security!

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#2 - 2016-02-23 16:12:07 UTC
Love the graph. Blink

Daemun of Khanid

Dart Aurel
Space Roar
#3 - 2016-02-23 16:15:51 UTC
There are 2 questions regarding windows switching policy points:
1. Is it prohibited to have 2 clients open and visible each on its own monitor?
2. I play EVE Online under Linux + Wine. Also I have tiled WM (xmonad) which allows to switch windows really fast (<50ms delay). Is this fair use or is it an exploit?
Mail Lite
Almost Dangerous
Stranger Danger.
#4 - 2016-02-23 16:18:33 UTC
Just wanted to check with you about 'Pirates Little Helper'.

It is a programme were you CTRL-A CTRL+C in local and it brings it up out of game, you get little icons which show what militia they are in, whether they are known to be link toons or whether they USE link toons. It also shows how many of each corp/alliance or in local without trolling though them.

It gives you instant access to their KB, their last KB activity and what their 3 favourite ships are. It also gives the average number of pilots on all of their killmails (good for identifying gangs/bait)

Can you confirm this is something that is ok to use?
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#5 - 2016-02-23 16:26:40 UTC
"Let us start with everybody’s favorite reading material, the EULA" hehehe Big smile made me laugh.

Interesting devblog, albeit a bit light on the announcements, but the information there is indeed highly valuable.

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Suede
Ashfell Celestial Academy
#6 - 2016-02-23 16:41:46 UTC
Altrue wrote:
"Let us start with everybody’s favorite reading material, the EULA" hehehe Big smile made me laugh.

Interesting devblog, albeit a bit light on the announcements, but the information there is indeed highly valuable.


made me laugh more as you notice CCP post this dev blog just after SP trading came in. I bet CCP have notice Players are gold farm SP

CCP make problems for them Self when they are going more down to Pay to Win Model.

Bad road to go down Pay To Win

To why CCP not listen to it player base in regards to SP trading we will never know.
Opner Dresden
H A V O C
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2016-02-23 16:43:44 UTC
At some point CCP needs to get a coherent policy about 3rd party programs... because that example you gave is utter horse ****. Pirate's Little Helper gives much more information more quickly than seeing another local, and I can see many locals without any overlays just by using Windowed mode.

Koz Katral
Hoover Inc.
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2016-02-23 16:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Koz Katral
So isboxer is now 100% banned because it allows you to only reveal certain elements of the eve client.

But what about eve preview? in theory it should be ok because it doesn't isolate any individual elements and just displays the entire client window.

As usual this is ridiculously vague.

Classic CCP. I doubt anyone will know until the ban wave hits and hundreds of legit customers are just cut out of the loop.

If you ban preview, it will definitely be in up there on the list of 'dumbest things CCP has ever done'
Atomic Child
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-02-23 16:59:44 UTC
1st page?
Tavion Aksmis
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-02-23 17:04:23 UTC
Mail Lite wrote:
Just wanted to check with you about 'Pirates Little Helper'.

It is a programme were you CTRL-A CTRL+C in local and it brings it up out of game, you get little icons which show what militia they are in, whether they are known to be link toons or whether they USE link toons. It also shows how many of each corp/alliance or in local without trolling though them.

It gives you instant access to their KB, their last KB activity and what their 3 favourite ships are. It also gives the average number of pilots on all of their killmails (good for identifying gangs/bait)

Can you confirm this is something that is ok to use?



Second this, I use PLH a lot and hope that I will not get banned for useing this. Yes this program kinda gives an "unfair" advantage, but it only gives information that you could othervise have gotten from zkillboard, rightclicking on the pilot and more in a condensed and quite useful way.
Ayumi Shekki
Thee Almitee Ones
1st Naval Alliance
#11 - 2016-02-23 17:04:44 UTC
Koz Katral wrote:
So isboxer is now 100% banned because it allows you to only reveal certain elements of the eve client.

But what about eve preview? in theory it should be ok because it doesn't isolate any individual elements and just displays the entire client window.

Man this **** is so vague.

Classic CCP. I doubt anyone will know until the ban wave hits and hundreds of legit customers are just cut out of the loop.

If you ban preview, it will definitely be in up there on the list of 'dumbest things CCP has ever done'



CCP for you. don't think CCP care much about it legit customers or players. think CCP care more about the money
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF
My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
#12 - 2016-02-23 17:05:43 UTC
Well then, since they only look at server events, I better not get too good at the game lest they think I have an advantage...
Koz Katral
Hoover Inc.
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2016-02-23 17:07:42 UTC
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:
Well then, since they only look at server events, I better not get too good at the game lest they think I have an advantage...


Yeah although maybe I should sell my 2 extra monitors just incase and downgrade my hardware to level the playing field.
Vulfen
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2016-02-23 17:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Vulfen
So am i reading this correctly?

If i go out now and buy some ISK from an RMTer and then give CCP the info after it's done i will be allowed to keep the isk and the RMTer will get banned? win win for me then...

Sounds like plex sale is due to plummet for a short time if that's the case...
Yin Zheng
Blumenkranz Academy
#15 - 2016-02-23 17:12:09 UTC
I, too, would like to see a clarification concerning the eve-o-preview's ability to display previews of game clients as overlays. It's not clear if this is against the rules now, because it doesn't show 'elements' of eve clients - it shows the entire client areas downscaled.
Suede
Ashfell Celestial Academy
#16 - 2016-02-23 17:12:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Suede
Vulfen wrote:
So am i reading this correctly?

If i go out now and buy some ISK from an RMTer and then give CCP the info after it's done i will be allowed to keep the isk and the RMTer will get banned? win win for me then...

Sounds like plex sale is due to plummet for a short time if that's the case...


Don't forget CCP want to become a Pay To Win Model

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf

Microtransactions and 'monocle-gate'

The development difficulties were only part of the Incarna problem. According to sources, CCP management had decided to introduce microtransactions, unbeknownst to most of the rank and file, charging real money for cosmetic items with which to customise character avatars. This is a familiar feature in online games, but usually a new outfit for a player character will cost $15-20. CCP decided to charge much more. The most notorious example was a monocle costing $70. The price tag infuriated fans kick-starting a major pricing controversy that would go on to become known as Monocle-gate.

The CEO had members of the fiction writing team put the apology together - he was either so out of touch, so arrogant, that he couldn’t find the words himself

The management response was elusive. In June 2011, senior producer Arnar Gylfason delivered an ambiguous statement, comparing the pixelated monocles to $1000 jeans and questioning whether people should buy clothes in real life at all. Eve subscriptions declined sharply and precipitously, and there were actual in-game riots in protest.


Eventually CEO Hilmar Veigar Pétursson issued an apology to the players. But even this short appeasement wasn’t what it seemed; according to Blood, Petursson didn’t actually write it.

“He had members of our storyline team – a group responsible for writing in-game content and fiction – put it together,” he says. “He was either so out of touch, so arrogant, or perhaps both, that he couldn’t find the words to say himself. They bailed him out big time.”
Cynthia Asanari
Astroburger
#17 - 2016-02-23 17:14:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Cynthia Asanari
I've recently been drawing eve ship commissions for PLEX . is this legit? I'm pretty sure it is, but I'm just double checking anyway.
Something like this.
http://imgur.com/gallery/EBcTNPa

I figured i had to ask since it's not really an in-game item
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#18 - 2016-02-23 17:19:34 UTC
Quote:
“<…Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.”


Im bad at this but does this means monetization of videos is not allowed ?

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Jayden Thomas
The Filth Columnists
United Federation of Conifers
#19 - 2016-02-23 17:21:57 UTC
I'm really surprised they didn't put an Aurum ad on that page.
CCP Peligro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2016-02-23 17:22:38 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Quote:
“<…Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.”


Im bad at this but does this means monetization of videos is not allowed ?


This is covered under the following policy:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/monetization-of-videos-and-streaming-policy/

Speaking of which, we recently had a bunch of policies translated and updated on the website, check it out:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/

Cheers!

CCP Peligro - Team Security

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