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Alner Greyl for CSM 11 - CSM should be open and friendly for players

Author
Alner Greyl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-02-08 20:27:56 UTC
Hello guys!

Yeah that’s another CSM application. So take a cup of tea and relax.

During last year I was thinking about how CSM is working with players and CCP in general. And the more I was thinking about situation the more I was becoming sure that CSM is not friendly and open for common player. What are we voting for? For promises and pink unicorns? Or are we voting for ballots and alliance members? Yes it’s not a secret. That’s what CSM looks like at the moment.

Candidates promise things they can’t deliver, people believe in their promises and in the end we are saying “CSM isn’t working”. I’ll leave promises to other candidates, not going to ruin their business.
Let’s return to the common pilot who doesn’t know how CSM is working, what they are doing, how they vote about new CCP features. Sure, you can always find articles and blogs but if you can’t find all CSM reports or thoughts in 1 minute you’ll get my point.

That’s a WRONG way for CSM

My main goal in CSM is to make it player friendly and open to public.

Blah blah. What are you going to do?

1) Develop the options for better communication between CSM members and players. Players should see what they voted for. How their candidate is voting, thinking etc. For example it can be periodical reporting or thread on forum with offer and result.
Result: Players will see how CSM is working, who they are voted for, and make right decision on next CSM about their candidate.

2) Create CSM reporting gathered in one place. Players shouldn’t spend bunch of time looking for a common and public information. Opinions, voting results, accepted and declined ideas, proposals from each candidate can be included in such report.
Result: Players will see activity and productivity of each CSM member. And they can make their own opinion about each candidate.

3) Develop rules and criteria to assess CSM memebers' activity, with members being excluded from CSM for non-compliance. Combined with reporting it will make the process more transparent for players, and will show true activity of CSM members.
Result: CSM will consist only of active members, who will represent players in best possible way.

4) Improve communication between CSM and players. Yeah, let’s bring back the practice of threads and proposals on the forums where everyone could write his proposal about features in game and then CSM moved it to CCP.
Result: CSM will become closer to players and stop being mythical group of people who are doing something behind closed doors.

I can’t promise you pink unicorns and everything will happen as i wrote. But I’ll try to make CSM being more public, more friendly for players.

Shortly about me:

  • Playing since 2011
  • Most of my game life i lived in nulls but had periods living in highsecs and lowsecs, Sorry WH bros i know about your life only on my friend’s opinions, thoughts and reports, but i have wish to try WH living to and understand your troubles.
  • I love pew pew but it’s rare when I can get in killmail. Prefer logi or unusual or support roles in fleets
  • Had a period of active taking part in faction warfare. Had experience with old claim and new claim
  • Had experience with production T1, T2, capital ships and modules
  • Used PI, and moon mining. Reactions on moons and terrible schemes for P4 on planets are still coming to me in nightmares.


0/ thanks for reading and have fun

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#2 - 2016-02-08 21:42:06 UTC
I support this.

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

Methodius Nix
Quam Singulari
Triumvirate.
#3 - 2016-02-09 08:59:00 UTC
I'm going to support this candidate. She is really nice!
JIeoH Mocc
brotherhood of desman
Soviet-Union
#4 - 2016-02-09 09:34:37 UTC
Wasn't it CCP Leloo's job?

Not a single thing about the game, or have I missed something?
TOJICTOTA
True Power Team
Brisingamen
#5 - 2016-02-09 09:45:12 UTC
JIeoH Mocc wrote:
Wasn't it CCP Leloo's job?

Not a single thing about the game, or have I missed something?


словно до этого кандидаты прям все что обещали то и выполняли.
не будь нытьем. хочет идти пусть идет. яб и за тебя проголосовал но у тебя и топика то нет наверно как и желания попасть в цсм
Methodius Nix
Quam Singulari
Triumvirate.
#6 - 2016-02-09 10:06:45 UTC
My vision is:

1) CSM works not as planned. Is there Leloo's fault or not, this is fact.
2) We need to start move CSM forward to what players want from this council
3) What players really want? IMHO - transparent feedback. They want to know that CCP hear players, admit mistakes and moves forward
4) With better feedback we can understand why this or that new features or fixes can or can't be implemented.
Lavayar
Russian SOBR
Dream Fleet
#7 - 2016-02-10 13:17:00 UTC
I support this.
Rydokop
Wastion Dominion
W.A.S.T.Y.A.
#8 - 2016-02-14 00:46:34 UTC
I support This
DoToo Foo
Sons Of Alexander
Requiem Eternal
#9 - 2016-02-14 01:25:42 UTC
I support the concept, but we should always also look at the tools that are currently available.

http://csm.eveonline.com/ exists. This could be advertised better.

Sugar Kyle is a prolific blogger (http://www.lowseclifestyle.com/) talking about CSM. I have found Sugar, Steve, and Corbexx very approachable.

Even some of the nullsec bloc candidates have published their thoughts far and wide.

Assembly Hall https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=267 is a forum for players to ask the CSM anything as a whole

Jita Park speakers corner https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=268 is 'less formal'

Your proposals are already there to a degree (competing requirements of non-disclosure agreements and open communication aside).

How will you use the existing tools to achieve this? What new tools do need created?

http://foo-eve.blogspot.com.au/

Dexsar
Upstairs Corporation
Caladrius Alliance
#10 - 2016-02-16 08:13:14 UTC
Bump !

I support This.
X4m
AirGuard
LowSechnaya Sholupen
#11 - 2016-02-19 17:52:30 UTC
I support
Alner Greyl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-02-29 00:01:18 UTC
DoToo Foo wrote:
I support the concept, but we should always also look at the tools that are currently available.

http://csm.eveonline.com/ exists. This could be advertised better.

Sugar Kyle is a prolific blogger (http://www.lowseclifestyle.com/) talking about CSM. I have found Sugar, Steve, and Corbexx very approachable.

Even some of the nullsec bloc candidates have published their thoughts far and wide.

Assembly Hall https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=267 is a forum for players to ask the CSM anything as a whole

Jita Park speakers corner https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=268 is 'less formal'

Your proposals are already there to a degree (competing requirements of non-disclosure agreements and open communication aside).

How will you use the existing tools to achieve this? What new tools do need created?


Hey. Sorry for long waiting reply. Crazy weeks.
Yeah. You named 4 CSM members. And how about others?
Do you know them? Do you know what they were doing? Can you find all their blogs during 2 minutes? 5? 10? I tried. Spent like 2 hours.
Assembly Hall - good place for posting. But how do you know what ideas were taken and rejected?
And yes, i understand what NDA is. But at least you can post reports AFTER something that's under NDA is posted in game. This can help to make CSM a bit more open. For example i have no idea who i should vote for from last csm council. Mostly because noone knows what they were doing P
There are 2 ways to make stuff working - forum and csm.eveonline. For the beginning it's ok. May be if CCP has resourced there can be added more interesting tools like site with form and voting for best ideas. Who knows.


QuincyFly
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2016-02-29 23:27:45 UTC
I have only good luck
Bukka Bazooka
#14 - 2016-03-02 10:04:15 UTC
You seem like a really nice player. Why you are in Pandemic Legion who are known to be so rude is a shock to me. They have tried on many occasions to smartbomb my transport in the pipeline between Jita and Hek. I will overlook your poor choice of corps and still vote for you however. This game needs more influential nice people to balance out the hard core jerks and psychopaths that play EVE.

The best ship in EVE....is friendship =)

Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#15 - 2016-03-07 02:56:32 UTC
Za menya toje progolosui pojalusto :)

The CSM XI Election are now open until March 25th, 2016. Consider Niko Lorenzio for CSM XI.

CSM matters, your voice matters, your vote matters!