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Feedback : high sec security (ganking question)

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Saredan
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-01-07 02:32:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Saredan
hello , i was roaming around and i see one night a complete system was LOCKED by these gankers named CODE .
the problem is that they don't get enought penalties doing that compared to the amount of money peoples lost when piloting a freighter and the amount of money CODE and other corp gain doing this .

the second problem is : kill rights
the kill rights are by far too expensive , we need to be able to punish them for cheap

some peoples begin the game and get ganked by these kind of corporations .

1 : they have no money and want to play the game an progress .
2 : some peoples feel miserable because of this situation and are not willing to stay enough in the game because of that .
3 : by making a better environnement , i'm sure more beginners will stay .


please CCP :

steps to make :

1 : lower the kill rights cost or make it no cost (or make a cost cap )
2 : lower the kill right cost for a particular pirat each time the same pirat kill someone in high sec .
3 : make a system looking if a high sec system is constantly under pirat attack (of the same persons) and make that CONCORD roam in large fleets in all the system after let say 30 min of repetitive attack of same pirat persons in high sec .
4 :(optionnal) (don't know if possible) limit the number of client possible running from the same IP adress
this can prevent a high sec system lock
5 : make another high sec route around uedama and sivala (gank point) so the traffic can be derived to another route if needed and not making 40 jumps .

it is unacceptable that a SINGLE person can lock out a system with 12 accounts .
we are 30000 players live and we got annoyed by 1 man with 12 accounts .
i know a lot of peoples who say same as me .

gank will still exist , but in a limited way than it is actually .

thanks . viewing my feedback .
regards .
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-01-07 03:13:05 UTC
You gonna cry because somebody blew up your little shippy whippy?
Amarrchecko
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-01-07 05:00:05 UTC
Saredan wrote:
it is unacceptable that a SINGLE person can lock out a system with 12 accounts .
we are 30000 players live and we got annoyed by 1 man with 12 accounts .


Straight
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#4 - 2016-01-07 05:44:50 UTC
You realise kill right price is set by the ganked right? Go whine at the greedy people who set it ;-)

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Omar Alharazaad
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-01-07 05:49:12 UTC
If ever I can manage to simultaneously annoy 30000 players I will consider myself to have won EVE.
More accounts is the path to this?
Is it possible using only one or two?

Counterpoint to OP:
Perhaps using scouts, either alts or I dunno... friends, would mitigate losses far more efficiently than badgering CCP for changes to the playstyle of others. You know the hot spots, obviously, so why not take some precautions when passing through or near them?
From the sounds of it you got smurfed right in the smurfhole.
Working as intended.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#6 - 2016-01-07 06:10:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
News at 11: NPC corp alt whines about ganking, demands more severe penalties on other players for legitimate gameplay.
Sasha Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#7 - 2016-01-07 06:36:20 UTC
you may think it is cheap to gank because of the difference incost between destroyers and freighters, but let me remind you the overhead cost of one plex per month per account to keep those gankers going.
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-01-07 07:09:38 UTC
Kill rights seem to work OK but you don't need them for gankers who fly at - 10 so free to shoot, the only thing with this you do need to shoot them to make it work

Make a combat alt and play the game, it's fun, you sometimes get a bit of a bounty payment, I even get paid from the odd ship I save as a thxs,

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Jason Kusion
KUSION SPECIAL TEAM
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2016-01-07 07:40:16 UTC
Dear Saredan

I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.

I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.

I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!

♥Jason Kusion♥
Sonne7
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-01-07 07:52:26 UTC
Jason Kusion wrote:
Dear Saredan

I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.

I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.

I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!

♥Jason Kusion♥



Just an alt nothing to see here move along please Lol
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#11 - 2016-01-07 07:52:54 UTC
OP, please learn to play Eve. Oh, and post on your main or GTFO, too.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

holdmybeer
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#12 - 2016-01-07 08:04:29 UTC
Join the anti-gankers so you can finally stop CODE. for good
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2016-01-07 08:19:43 UTC
Just join a corp.... Eventually someone will just kill you legitimatly to watch you b*tch about that.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-01-07 08:31:44 UTC
Saredan wrote:

the problem is that they don't get enought penalties doing that compared to the amount of money peoples lost when piloting a freighter and the amount of money CODE and other corp gain doing this .
(...)
some peoples begin the game and get ganked by these kind of corporations .

1 : they have no money and want to play the game an progress .
2 : some peoples feel miserable because of this situation and are not willing to stay enough in the game because of that .
3 : by making a better environnement , i'm sure more beginners will stay .


Where do all those newbies with enough ISK to buy a freighter come from? And if they can afford a 1 billion isk ship, I'm sure they can afford the 10 mill ISK permit for safe passage.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#15 - 2016-01-07 10:15:54 UTC
Making this post on an alt because you (or your corpmate) lost an Orca in Uedama (Jan 4, 10:54) destroys any credibility your "feedback" has. You lost a round in this PvP game, that is all. Your time would be better spent learning how to prevent such losses in the future rather than begging the game developer (in the wrong forum I might add) to change the game in your favour.

Let me start: stop flying your Orca AFK. Fit it with a MWD to get a 10 second warp, or escort it with a webbing support ship. Also, scout ahead, and if pirates are operating in a system, go around or wait until later if you cannot provide proper protection for your industrial ships. Highsec is not safe. You are not entitled to free passage though any system any time you desire.

Better yet, take the suggestions offered above in this thread and fight back against the gankers. They are criminals and free for you to shoot. You know, actually play the game?
Solecist Project
#16 - 2016-01-07 10:29:41 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
If ever I can manage to simultaneously annoy 30000 players I will consider myself to have won EVE.
More accounts is the path to this?
Is it possible using only one or two?

Challenge .........

....... accepted!


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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#17 - 2016-01-07 11:53:26 UTC
Droidster wrote:
You gonna cry because somebody blew up your little shippy whippy?



NPC posting alt has all his feathers puffed up, adorable!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Mike Adoulin
Hell House
Hell Dawn
#18 - 2016-01-07 13:08:15 UTC
Saredan wrote:
tears



HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAwait he's serious.

*blinks*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA......

Pirate

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-01-07 14:02:44 UTC
Jason Kusion wrote:
Dear Saredan

I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.

I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.

I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!

♥Jason Kusion♥


Ironically this guy and his 12 clones blew me up too last night (and destroyed my implants, I guess out of spite). Its like Jake Kusion, Justin Kusion, Joel Kusion, Jeremiah Kusion, etc, etc. More -10 tards than in one of those incestuous families in West Virginia.

I was trying to figure out the math of this. He only got about 300 million in stuff off me, because most of the good stuff got destroyed, but I noticed from his killboard he has destroyed some 8 billion ISK freighters, not even sure how he collects those, another account with a freighter? So, let's say he averages 500 million per gank, then he only needs to gank about 30 high value ships per month to fund his 12-15 accounts, which is 1 per night, and checking the killboard again we see he is killing like 20 ships on some nights, so it looks pretty profitable.

I think he must have yet another account which does nothing but make Thrashers.
Omar Alharazaad
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-01-07 14:04:02 UTC
At work the other night...

"If you're gonna cry about it, at least lean over the bucket when doing so. My goal tonight is to gather at least enough to brew myself a pot of very salty coffee"

Perhaps EVE has contaminated RL a bit too much for me.... granted, being that I have to deal with morons 99% of the time, it's quite possible that EVE has not had ENOUGH of an impact on RL to grant me the serenity I require in order to not go home and drink heavily after each shift.

Either way, OP needs to nut up and adapt or go somewhere else. His choice.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

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