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I'd erase T3 and Caps from the game if it was in my power.

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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
#1 - 2015-12-21 09:54:12 UTC
Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-12-21 10:10:17 UTC
Pretty short sighted but whatever...

No Worries

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#3 - 2015-12-21 10:11:14 UTC
i like big fights so i disagree with destroyers online

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#4 - 2015-12-21 10:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
I'd delete all sub capitals.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Alavaria Fera
Imperial Shipment
#5 - 2015-12-21 11:23:45 UTC
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#6 - 2015-12-21 12:57:37 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have.


If it ever did come to being in your power, then it would be because you became a qualified game developer, and got hired by CCP, by which time you'd understand that rebalancing is better than removal. Of course, that'll never happen. Have you ever tried... I don't know, flying one yourself? I have, and I've had plenty of good come from both. Good fights and kills, that is.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2015-12-21 13:18:20 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
I'd delete all sub capitals.


I once knew a guy who deleted his face.
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#8 - 2015-12-21 13:19:18 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
... in my power.
Luckily that is not the case.

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......

Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
#9 - 2015-12-21 13:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.

T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?
Jade Blackwind
#10 - 2015-12-21 13:33:18 UTC
Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.

Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).

Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.

Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.

...Meh, ten years too late.

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#11 - 2015-12-21 13:37:27 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.

Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).

Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.

Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.

...Meh, ten years too late.



i like gatecamping so why should your playstyle be more favoured than mine?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Solecist Project
#12 - 2015-12-21 13:39:20 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.

Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).

Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.

Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.

...Meh, ten years too late.


So glad you don't get to kill the game. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#13 - 2015-12-21 13:40:30 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.

Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).

Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.

Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.

...Meh, ten years too late.



All of these things you've listed that you want to change the mechanics for already have simple solutions with existing mechanics. Lrn2play.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#14 - 2015-12-21 13:41:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
I'd delete all sub capitals.


I once knew a guy who deleted his face.


Are you sure he deleted it and it's not just in the recycle bin?

Edit: I have no idea if this comment was funny or not, I just felt like being random and did the best I could.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-12-21 13:46:10 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have.


An idea would be, to kill all t2 and t3.

Give ships roles based on their classes.
Well will never happen, since now frigate even have logi, their is no sign of enlightenment from CCP.
CCP has a history with no / bad design and continues it.

Removing even the worst mistakes is a massive job, that won't be done.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#16 - 2015-12-21 13:49:51 UTC
La Rynx wrote:
Well will never happen, since now frigate even have logi


were bursts never a thing? What?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#17 - 2015-12-21 13:55:31 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.
Jade Blackwind
#18 - 2015-12-21 14:01:32 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
All of these things you've listed that you want to change the mechanics for already have simple solutions with existing mechanics. Lrn2play.
Sure. Inties, Cov/null T3s, mash Dscan until the carpal tunnel syndrome kicks in, tacticals everywhere, alts, bring friends. Except peharps the local, but this can be countered with "go live in a wormhole!".

I know how to adapt and survive (or to die in a fire, I don't care about KB efficiency), thank you.

Solecist Project wrote:
So glad you don't get to kill the game. :)
I don't need to kill the game, there are plenty of people including CCP themselves who will perfectly do it without my help :P
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2015-12-21 14:02:26 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Remiel Pollard wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
I'd delete all sub capitals.


I once knew a guy who deleted his face.


Are you sure he deleted it and it's not just in the recycle bin?

Edit: I have no idea if this comment was funny or not, I just felt like being random and did the best I could.


Nah it was gone.
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#20 - 2015-12-21 14:21:31 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
I know how to adapt and survive (or to die in a fire, I don't care about KB efficiency), thank you.


Then do that.

Quote:
I don't need to kill the game, there are plenty of people including CCP themselves who will perfectly do it without my help :P


The game is older than WoW, and the only time it declines in numbers is when it gets easier.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

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