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Vic Jefferson for CSM XI - Chaos and Hilarity.

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#1 - 2015-09-30 18:01:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
Everyone wants to log on and create content, be part of a fight, get rich and/or acquire something, build something as a team, or otherwise partake of some chaos and hilarity. However, in the current state of EvE, this can be an actual challenge, for many reasons. The population distribution across space challenges content creation, and the accessibility and availability of income streams make some regions totally inviable for living, while pigeon-holing others into regions 'for' a particular purpose, which I feel is anathema to the design of a proper sandbox.

I do not believe I have experienced the game from every angle, not nearly, but I do believe I am in a good position to voice player issues and opinions as player of this game, first and foremost. Here are some of the issues that I personally feel need addressing the most, of which I will elaborate in full detail in future posts/updates in this thread, though many will be recapitulations of previous posts and input on the matter.

A)Speed creep and/or the kitey meta.
This has gotten a bit better since the recent changes.

B)Warp speed.

C)Income accessibility and availability.

D)The Importance of NPC null for new players and post-Phoebe capital logistics.

E)Wardecs, HiSec content creation in general.

F)Fozziesov, the newbie factory farm, brought to you by two separate and dissonant entry bars.

G)AFK gameplay is bad gameplay. Two carrots is better than two sticks.

H)Jump ranges and jump Fatigue.

I)Exploration as a profession has died thanks to escalations/saturation

J)Suburbanization of lowsec.

K)GrrGoons

Feel free to contact me in game, or by posting here directly. I want to work for you, and make New Eden a place people are talking about! I look forward to your questions, comments, and issues!

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#2 - 2015-09-30 18:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
A)Speed creep and/or the kitey meta.

Brawling fights are hard to get these days, and it is something that many people really miss. People also are really tired of everything being so damn fast, as it really limits what you can undock as fleets, and how high the bar is for tackle. Fleet and gang fights tend to be less visceral and bloody; kiting fleets can pick their fights extremely well and disengage just as easily generally. This leads to an environment that is more conductive to ganks then actual fights. Even large fleets abhor brawling right now. If you are solo, especially in hostile places, yeah, kiting is fine; you need to not get caught to stand a reasonable chance of living, but it's pretty sad when stand up hundred plus man fleets are so kitey – the idea of two sides fully committed and brawling it out to the bitter end is very appealing, but doesn't really happen enough.

I would absolutely hate to be a newbie tackler right now; even my overheated frigate can barely keep pace with what's out there, and almost every cruiser that sees use has absurd application. How fun is it to be totally useless? Things really need to slow down. The current speed creep, combined with the server responsiveness and ticks, just makes for a frustrating game that is less tactical and strains to accommodate the speeds involved; you can't even lock some things in the time they are passing through your threat range. When nothing has to commit to the field/grid, fights are inhibited. Other gangs can just run or selectively disengage easily – the opportunity cost for being on grid is so low; forcing a fight becomes a chore.

I take a look at the most commonly used ships, and they really look like either one of the culprits of this, or something designed to deal with it. Even faction webs look like they have gotten more expensive in response to dealing with this. Some of the recent changes may be tilting this back towards a balance of kite and brawling, but it still needs work. Obviously there should be ways for skilled players to completely dance around the blob and win, and you definitely need to be very careful so the balance does not swing too far the other way, disenfranchising kiting/speed entirely. I do realize how hard it is to operate in certain areas, and that scram range fighting is a death sentence due to cynos in heavily defended sov - I would love to see more kiting gangs causing havoc in sov space.


I)Exploration as a profession has died thanks to escalations/saturation.

So this is something that needs to be addressed for many reasons. Many people enjoyed exploration and used it to fund whatever endeavours they personally found interesting enough to pay good ISK for. There as at least a faint sense of adventure and the random loot drops to make it a more interesting income source than the other options, which are horribly monotonous. The new sleeper sites were definitely a good step in the right direction, but also intrinsically had the problem of how to pay out successful players - blue loot works but is uninteresting and just dumps more liquid into the economy, and not many of the polarized weapons actually see much use. Low sec DEDs have not suffered as much as nullsec ones, but both need to be brought up to the point where the average time spent to get a drop exceeds what you could get via missions or straight up anomaly ratting. DEDs, when/if they are profitable, are a great model example of a limited resource in space that encourages small gang activity, as opposed to anomalies (dock up or move to another system) or FW plexes/missions (move to another mission or system). The game would do better overall with more cases where 'cheese' is put somewhere accessible to many players, and there is potential to fight over it. Cheese however, has to be limited to be worth fighting for.

These are what I consider to be known or major factors devaluing the exploration loot:

1)Oversupply due to increased escalation rate, 2.5 to a 5% is a doubling of the escalation rate!

2)Oversupply due to ship meta. Low Sec DEDs haven't fared as badly, because cruiser loot has a healthy demand due to everyone being in cruisers and lower. Battleships on the other hand, are still in a terrible spot - you know there's something wrong on the ship meta end when people don't want to fly Machs or Vindis.

3)Oversupply due to Sov mechanics. I am not entirely sure how much of a factor this is overall, but I'm sure a person with the right statistics to actually make a model of could give me the effect size of Karmafleet on Rattlesnake prices.

4)Oversupply due to saturation. The few weeks after Odyssey released were a great time to be a newbie; all you needed was a week or so of skills to be able to make hundreds of millions off blue salvage. Even more, the newbie that took risks and went to dangerous space was rewarded handsomely compared to the ones that did not. Prices slowly tanked and have gone down ever since as more and more people wanted to get in on this 'gold rush' of extremely valuable salvage clouds.

Basically, this activity has been systematically wiped out over the past 6-12 months, or at least put in the gutter. Players want it restored, refined, and upgraded. It was one of the 'fun' ways to make money for some, except now it really doesn't pay like it used to. Either an expansion of the loot tables to include missing deadspace mods, which would only be available in scanned down sites as opposed to escalated ones, or another more novel solution is required to restore this profession to the game, making it once again profitable and worth the time, danger, and opportunity cost. It is a major flaw in game design, especially apparent when explaining to people about the various ways to make ISK, that one of the most common ways to earn bread and butter income is to be mostly AFK - this neither challenges nor excites players.

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#3 - 2015-10-01 20:44:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
B)Warp speed.

Conceptually, adding more differentiation to ships via warp speed was a wonderful thing; having them be faster or slower relative to each other makes lots of options open up, tactically and otherwise.

1)Meta already punished big things, this was and is, basically sulfur in open wounds. Yes, the warp rig changes were good, but there is still the lingering philosophical issue that you should not need to fit a certain way to make the ship viable. Take fitting mods - you generally use these when you want to use something beyond the normal bounds of the ship, sacrificing slots that could be used in one way to open up fitting a bigger tank, bigger guns, or some sort of fiendish speed. Getting around at a reasonable pace should not be considered something beyond the normal bounds of what ships were made for. Yes, different speeds for different ships, but how slow the baseline is could use some adjustment. When travel becomes too much of a chore, it inhibits small gang/solo content, especially when people want to fly medium to bigger things that are self-sufficient, and need every slot to be able to up-engage. Think of the charm of a solo battleship pilot charging into the Barleguet of yesteryear, neither the pilot nor the response squad would probably have a bad time here. This needs to be supported more.

2)Modeling a successful New Eden - interaction is its lifeblood. The more time people spend in systems where nothing is going on, the worse experience they will have. Likewise, the more gangs they roam into, the more and more complex interactions they can have, and this usually results in a more eventful play session. Play sessions they will remember and tell their friends about, you know? The sort of stuff that makes EvE unique in that the combat does not take place within the bounds a staged arena. You definitely want the depth provided by variable warp speed, so that gangs can use interesting tactics to catch each other, but you don't want the base warp speed, or the warp speed of bigger things to be so restrictive that the become impractical.

Take, oh, Black Rise or Syndicate, and assume you have 5 entities on at Friday or Saturday prime time - If all 5 ship into t3ds or light cruisers, their chances of engaging or even finding most of those other gangs is very high. If all 5 ship into heavy things, these chances are far lower; by the time they get a reasonable distance from home it's time to head back and fleet is over. Multiply this by the spread of population all over New Eden, and its no wonder that players are making choices they are. I completely understand wanting to reign in projection, but there needs to be a compromise here I think. The time in warp should be drastically cut down. Its a downward spiral of content degeneration when every time you bring out big things, nothing happens (you know, those ships that were expensive ISK wise and high SP requirements). You get the opposite effect if gangs continually find good fights in comps they enjoy flying.

3)Veteran pilots do not want to be restricted to cruisers and down. Yeah, I haven't really experienced the full impact of the BC changes yet, they look promising. Even if they are much better and more relevant on grid, you still need to be mobile enough to find other people to play ball with, and warp speed sorta plays into that.

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#4 - 2015-10-05 22:38:56 UTC
J)Suburbanization of lowsec.

I can't find exactly the right word for this, but I'll stick to suburbanization. Here's what I mean: since FozzieSov, you have had lots of previously successful sov entities moving or breaking up into lowsec groups. The why is easy: lowsec is more content rich, much less of a logistical hassle, both in moving stuff and day to day operation, and has comparable or better income streams. This ties into other things I want to talk about, specifically about the entry bars to sov as they are, but it also tells a lot about what players actually want, and what Sov actually offers them. Again, if you can think of a better word, I'm totally game.

Lowsec has a ton going for it, especially for players who want to shoot at each other. I am actually curious on numbers of capital losses in WH/Null vs Lowsec, as it's pretty obvious where players are choosing to fight, some would say where game mechanics have forced them to fight. Essentially, you have deep null where people go to PvE in peace, and lowsec, which is a crowded content thunderdome. I don't like this at all, as distance combined with the phoebe changes has basically left entire regions all but impervious to attack, essentially condemning them as purely PvE areas - they are for a particular purpose, which again is bad for a sandbox. One of the goals of FozzieSov was to regionalize conflict - well it happened, but basically people collectively raised their hands and said lowsec is that region. So we get a concentration and the same sort of politics and alliance structures in lowsec as we used to see in null.

Sov has become territory you fill with newbies, renters, or newbie renters just to hold and maintain, protected by distance as much as anything, whereas Lowsec has become the pvp zone. I really do not like having this partitioning of space where places are pseudo purposed for one particular activity. Distances have to be shrunk a little bit to prevent this isolation and essentially zoning, and the bar for sov-holding is obviously way too high for a large majority of experienced players. Even if more carrots are added to sov as more of these changes get implemented, what is likely to happen is people just sticking alts in the big null alliances, and keeping their main characters doing whatever - this is already happening. It shouldn't be that surprising though - people putting their PvE characters in pseudo PvE alliances holding PvE regions just has so much synergy to it. I suppose some of this belongs under the income heading, but this partitioning of space mitigates so much risk as to be one factor in part of the economic woes we have now.

Holding sov now is more about PvE than PvP, so again, you are going to attract vastly different crowds. Lowsec will continue to grow and more and more ex-sov players will probably consider moving to the suburbs as their once proud hubs of pvp are transformed into glorified high sec. There's maybe a few sov regions which are actually functioning as models of AegisSov, but these are far and few in between, and their success could largely be pinned on proximity to either low or NPC null.

Still looking for a better term for this phenomena.

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#5 - 2015-10-05 23:03:25 UTC
Israel has a right to defend itself, and also supports CSM candidate Vic Jefferson.
#6 - 2015-10-08 21:52:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
H)Jump ranges and jump Fatigue.

Jump fatigue fixed one thing, and broke several others – these need fixes. The collateral damage is simply far too great. EvE has literally gone from being a place where 100 man super fleets are omni-present within 15 minutes, to a place where it is better to self destruct capitals rather than move them. Surely there is a goldilocks zone where things are reasonable, and we should aim to get there sooner than later.

1)Black ops.

So I am completely unsatisfied with the current jump fatigue on black ops jumps and bridges. They are one of the few tools available to actually fight a much larger entity and at least garnish some token victories, or out harass large, bloated empires. One drop is like ~2 hours of fatigue if you jump back....and let's be realistic, any competent defender will make you do so. Considering the extreme isolation that null affords, much of it multiple jumps away from any NPC systems to stage from, blops really needs its fangs back – the threat of a blops drop needs to be something that can be projected any place, at any time. Guerrilla tactics are some of the only realistic ways to generate content between entities of grossly asymmetrical size, yet both the range and the frequency of jumps really kills good blops play. Capitals aren't not supposed to be infinitely manoeuvrable, but blops are supposed to be extremely manoeuvrable, so I don't get why the hammer was pretty much thrown at both. I can understand not wanting to risk feeding projection more, but the defining aspect of the ship class was basically collateral damage when trying to reign in capital projection. What it did was make some regions totally inaccessible to blops, and make the play style about waiting...in a game about waiting.

Black ops ships themselves, I really do not find poorly balanced, but they could use the promised rebalance tweaks. They definitely do not not need TII resists – manoeuvrability, damage, tank; pick two and you have a well balanced specialized ship, and they have extreme damage and manoeuvrability. Giving them straight TII resists would make them hilariously overpowered. More scan resolution and sensor strength added to the base hull, slightly better fitting, or an overheating bonus for a set duration after jumping...anything to make them better at ambush tactics, but they are not meant to be toe-to-toe champions of slugfests, that is what marauders are for. You want them fast and high damage, but impractical for other roles.

Either the jump/bridge range needs to be extended, or the fatigue needs to be lessened to allow realistic use of mids/safes to hit areas that are farther away.


2)Moving
Yes, it was important to make carrier apex forces not infinitely motile, but moving to new areas is currently....terrible. The ratio of work to content is just becoming excruciating, causing many to just give up. You sort of know there's something wrong when it is just better to mass-self destruct a capital fleet and buy another one, rather than try and move it. The same applies to moving sub-caps to new locations. In an age when you are trying to make sov empires vibrant, malleable, and shifting, it is hilariously bad in my appraisal to make the act of moving to new space to miserable and taxing. Sticking your sov-aspirants with yet another bar to entry, yet another reason not to try and live in sov null, is not conductive to building or showcasing the play style. Space is literally just too big now, much better of an idea to just shack up in lowsec where most things will be accessible.


3)Local capital over-dominance, hyper-localization, invent your own buzzword.
This one is pretty easy. In a world where capitals are bound to at most a ~10ly radius, contesting local capital power, particularly in deep null, is basically impossible. This hurts people looking for capital content, makes their use in deep null extremely hard to punish, and makes local capital bullies hard to deal with in certain areas. Basically, movement is so restricted that meaningful interaction is greatly inhibited. Yeah, a spate of big fights happened in quick succession when the all seeing eye of super blobs was blinded, which is good, but other areas are on the other end of the spectrum. Pretty much the only places where dropping capitals is risky is in and around Lowsec where the population and system density is high enough. I suppose some of this is pending the capital re balance, but generally if a ship is undocked, it should be vulnerable, and I just don't feel this is the case with the size of the map vs the range of capitals. Capitals need a tad more projection – not too much, just enough to let groups play sheriff on other groups capital usage.

4)More NPC null pockets are needed. One of the reasons for this is to allow actual capital movement between regions and make more places accessible to move through or move to. Generally NPC pockets lead to much more interesting times for local sov-holders; with how big the universe is now, and with the recent WH nerf, actually getting at people and providing a healthy amount of risk is a bit of a challenge logistically, whereas these would really help. I do think the jump ranges and times are way too strict, but a few well placed systems could really accelerate movement my making more direct travel paths.

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#7 - 2015-11-27 02:17:34 UTC
Vic Jefferson the CSM of my heart <3
#8 - 2015-12-18 18:36:17 UTC
Elect a player to speak for players, much like voting for a citizen, to represent citizens.

If you vote at ALL for a bloc candidate of any sort, you get what you vote for. I do not stand for any one particular playstyle, nor would I advocate solely on one play style's behalf, nor am I beholden to any interests. There's a damn good chance whatever your thing is in this game, be it ganking in HiSec or roaming FW space, i've done it - a lot. Just like you, I am a player, not a bloc sponsored and endorsed mouthpiece, and I want the GAME to be better, not my gaming of New Eden to be more efficient.

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#9 - 2015-12-21 21:32:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
With so much brouhaha about the CSM in general these days, it is my opinion that if the CSM is going to persist, rather than just the focus groups for gathering feedback and ideas, why not nudge 'good' representation by having a set number of seats for each space type? It's easier to stuff the ballot by large groups that can cross communicate and game the system than it is for smaller candidates. Looking at the votes from last year, there were a LOT of candidates, but it seems like the votes were very spread among 'niche' candidates - no one candidate could get an entire block together of one play style. I am pretty sure I got a good deal of the people from Syndicate to vote for me, but what about Stain, Pure Blind, or Fountain? Basically, If we were guaranteed 1-2 candidates from each space type block, voter apathy wouldn't be so bad; there WILL be one/more candidate representing (your favourite interest group), so you need to vote for the one you like, rather than, there's no mathematical way for your interest group to get a seat due to vote monopolizing.

A Balanced CSM would look like this to me, out of 12:

3 Sov Null Candidates
2 High Sec Candidates
1 High Sec Antagonist Candidate
2 NPC and non FW Low Candidates
2 Wormhole Candidates
1 FW Candidate
1 NPSI Candidate

When the votes are counted, only the top three running in the Sov Null are retained, i.e. even if #4 in the Sov Null category had 4000 votes and #1 in NPC null had 300 votes, the NPC candidate would get a seat.

I would leave it to the discretion of CCP to ensure that a candidate that marks her or his campaign in one of those categories is legitimate. Yes, its not perfect, its still open to manipulation, but it at least tries to make sure the only voices there aren't just the loudest.

I would really be curious to see just how spread out all the votes were between the niche candidates in the last election. There were many, many good candidates last year, quite informed and good communicators who are very devoted and want EvE to be at its very best, just....yeah. There's nothing left that hasn't been gamed in this game.

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#10 - 2015-12-22 21:32:55 UTC
Vic Jefferson, the hero we deserve!
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#11 - 2015-12-22 21:51:30 UTC
You wall of texted your points out of order. Despite this you have my vote.
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#12 - 2015-12-23 04:28:14 UTC
Elect someone who wants the game better for everyone... not just his group. Vote Vic!
#13 - 2015-12-24 05:48:14 UTC
F)Fozziesov, the newbie factory farm, brought to you by two separate and dissonant entry bars.

Basically, one of my big issues with AegisSov is that, while the bar to mechanically taking sov has been lowered drastically, the hidden bar to it, namely having the personnel and IT infrastructure to actually meaningfully populate what you hold, hasn't changed. Sure you may need more than an interceptor and some perseverance to take a system now, but actually building something there still takes a herculean effort on account of many people to have it have a chance of holding. You need forums, jabber, authorization people, spymasters, logistics people, amateur accountants, diplomats...etc.

In practice what it means is that the existing powers that were, powers that be, have just used this to further leverage control over newbies and other players, as only the big pre-existing powers realistically had a good chance of having all the out of game tools to effectively hold and populate sov, despite the ability to plant a flag with a cruiser. Newbies have become a commodity to the sov old guard to protect their holdings, while any new sov aspirants are effectively still gated by the out of game stuff that makes new empires unlikely to succeed or compete with the established entities. There's no reason to start an empire de-novo when you can just stick alts or characters in ones that have the organizational capacity to manage and maintain sov already.

Complex things do not spontaneously assemble. They take time, and small incremental steps of progress that can be exposed to selection. If the development focus is going to remain on trying to make Aegis sov better, it would be wise to give areas where intermediate steps of alliance evolution can actually be nurtured, and things can actually develop, rather than the current paradigm where you need a complete organization, all in one insurmountable step, just to put your toes in the waters of sov.

Lowsec is actually working to some degree, and I wouldn't want to see it changed on account of anything. NPC null would be working, if there was any way for players to actually earn ISK there to support a pvp habit, but again, I wouldn't want to see NPC null changed into Sov Lite. In either the case of NPC null or Low, it attracts a different crowd anyway; players who actually want to shoot at each other for fun, whereas sov has basically become, you guessed it, simply a newbie factory farm because anomalies are accessible, available, and not terrible income for new players.

Basically what I mean to frame here is this: when you funnel newbies into sov as a commodity, you deprive them from experiencing many other aspects of the game, many of which they would have found compelling and interesting. Even though the entry barrier is mechanically lower, you aren't getting new groups to really engage in things because of out of game barriers. Essentially, what I am asking for is an end to the monopolization of newbies by sov, and that the way to do this is to actually put available, accessible, and good income sources other places. FW? that's something for alts. Incursions? that's something for alts. Put the income where people actually want to live, and newbies may find the game less of a chore, or where they need to join a Sov Alliance to sustain themselves. Let people play as they will.



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#14 - 2015-12-25 20:03:35 UTC
C)Income availability.

This is one of the single biggest messes in the game right now. Not even kidding! This really goes back to what I was harking to last year, so I'll just do a crude repost to frame it, as nothing has really changed. If anything, it has gotten much worse.

'Last Year's Thread' wrote:

The main principle I am running on is buffing NPC null, Low Sec, and Sov Null to the extent that people can start in any security band from day one while also prospering learning, and getting involved with the universe. Let's make EvE like the trailers – for real. Distribute resources as content seeds and watch the players do the rest. Give people a challenge, not a chore.

My go-to success story is that of Barleguet and Brave Newbies. I am in no way affiliated with Brave, but I have seen their work first hand. Basically, you had an empty low-sec system which was otherwise unremarkable besides for a few level 5 agents. Once they were done moving in, Barleguet was transformed into a 24-7 content stop where a man could buy a quafe, a rifter, and 5000 rounds of EMP S and use them all on the way home. Just by concentrating some population, all sorts of content sprung up; new markets, defense fleets, and gangs coming from far and wide. Surely some of the most fierce players in Brave now surely got their first lessons and adrenaline rushes from belt ratting around planet seven. Content fed a cycle of content creation. An unimposing, non-FW system became a huge hub of activity.

Which brings me to the actual crux of it all – there needs to be more resources in low and null that are both profitable and accessible to new and old players, resources which will both be in demand and create content. The Security Tags and Mordu's Angel spawns are great examples. I think everyone sort of tacitly realizes that High Sec L4s and Incursions are a sacred cow that will not be tipped over any time soon, ergo the solution if you want to promote more real interaction is to actually properly balance other resources and income potential. If you could put another Barleguet on the map, you would create a great place for new players to actually learn the game, and content for everyone. The charm of Barleguet wasn't smashing the day old player in the venture trying to get rich off that sweet, sweet Jaspet, it was the chaos that immediately descended into asteroid belt. For better or worse, you just need an impetus to get people undocked, the rest created itself. I want a reason for a new group of players to rush out into lowsec, struggle to survive, lose countless ships, but have a chance to become far wealthier than their High Sec cousins, and have many more exciting tales to share.


...and I pretty much stand by this entirely. Income is pigeon holed too narrowly into activities that require alts, know how, large SP pools, or cow-towing to an all powerful hand of Sov (Point F). Level 4s in HS create a minimal amount of player content, Incursions create almost zero player content and severely tilt the equilibrium of risk/reward. FW is a game of alts where the goal is to unlock PvE missions - this is bad. Sov Anomalies create some content, so they are lower on the list, but this requires people either have alts in a large coalition, or crimp their play style to be inflected by sov. L5s require excessive know-how and local dominance.

Basically...put income where players actually want to live, and make it appropriate for the risks for that security band. Some NPC null has really good income streams, but its locked behind standings (ALTS) and know how; people CRAVE living in NPC null, let people play the way they want to.

Another point this raises is that one of the reasons sov is a failed enterprise is because...well sov is only functioning when it is a safe place to farm, and if anything is safe in this game, it has failed first principles. People go to make cash in sov as it is so absurdly safe; that is what sov is FOR these days, and anything that is purposed for a reason in a sandbox is just....needs revision. It doesn't promote any actual conflict as conflict on those scales and distances is a tenuous proposition in a post-phoebe world, with the whole lack of motivation wrapped up in there as well.

Look at TISHU or OSS. Or any other small, fun alliance in the game. They create a ton of content for as little support as they have, most members have alts to make their ISK for them some where else, as there certainly isn't any money to be made in Syndicate. However, Syndicate is the only type of region that has enough entities close enough to each other to meaningfully shoot at each other; happens in lowsec too, but sov null is just too vast to ever really see much consistent conflict. What I'm saying is it's dumb to hand over all the keys to new players, and new player retention (Read: income, stable, reliable, accessible, Point F) in the form of anomalies to sov holders and sov empires when by and large, there are so many play styles that would appeal and retain players in non-sov regions, if only there were a way for it to be viable to live there.

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#15 - 2015-12-25 23:44:41 UTC
Jade Constantine alt c/d?

<3 Vic
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#16 - 2015-12-26 02:48:46 UTC
Vic Jefferson, a true candidate for the people of EvE!
#17 - 2016-01-04 09:23:29 UTC
If no one better pop ups you may be my number one this year.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

#18 - 2016-01-05 06:53:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
E)Wardecs, HiSec content creation in general.

So ill try doing this one a few bits at a time, as it can be a sensitive issue, so the complete version of this point may take a few iterations, but you are free and encouraged to ask questions.

To begin, I do not in any way wish to further curtail what is left of high sec criminal mechanics, the current set of very limited high sec mechanics goes a long way to explain the why and the how of ganking. Briefly, you've taken away every other way to generate content in Hi, so of course, the antagonist minded players will learn to utilize what they have left to the fullest extent. I used to run a ganking corporation and have done a fair bit of it - it is part of the game, and you should be able to gank someone; the onus of defence lays on every pilot that does not want to be ganked. This is how it should be.

If you want to see more interesting behaviour and better emergent gameplay, expand, not shrink, what people are allowed to do in Hi Sec. It currently has about as much depth as an Atari 2600 game.

I fully believe that Wardecs need to have their cost structure inverted; a three man corp that wants to war-dec a major alliance, who should bave the resources, know how, and pilots to be able to defend itself, should basically be free. Conversely, the large WarDec corp that just finds the latest new player start up to crush it under its heel, that should be the expensive type of war to run. If Phoebe was designed to let small entities affect sov, then why not let small entities actually affect player organizations much larger than themselves in hi?

That being said, you have to ask why Uedama , etc, are so violent; why are the most violent systems in the game in Hi Sec? Well obviously their geography explains most of it, yes, but it really comes down to, where are the kids supposed to play? Null Sec is so absurdly safe, so remote, and so easily to defend that most antagonist minded players can quickly see that the higher Isk killed per hour, or more feathers ruffled per hour, etc, are available in Hi Sec, and that basically, why bother trying to make content anywhere else when its so much better in Hi Sec? Uedama, you can literally just undock a catalyst or talos and receive killmail, as opposed to null or low where targets are so rare and so skittish. Basically that antagonists have been in large part pigeon holed into one form of antagonism by the Hi Sec rules, and one place, namely high sec, by the population density and the target availability. That is just not good overall.

The mass exodus to null didn't happen in Phoebe or with AegisSov; this is explored in other posts as to why and how. However, even if it did, it still wouldn't change Hi Sec as being king for naughty players; null and low mechanics just make it so incredibly easy to stay safe that many have just stopped bothering with those areas. Why hunt for a wild caught Hulk when you can just snag a factory farmed one in Hi Sec? You'd have a healthier game when the best place for most antagonist content generation was not restricted to a few systems in Hi Sec - put some tools back in low and null so antagonists actually have a reason to be out there, give them options. Part of this means, yes, making other areas actually worth living in so there are people to antagonize, and another part of this means actually letting the antagonists have a chance at being naughty.

Oh, and if you think you are reading too much in this thread, and there's too much text, remember you are supposed to be electing a communicator. Look at the other threads, and make your own calls there people. Slogans and vague themes alone do not a candidate make. While I am doing my best to remain brief, rest assured I would not be daunted to actually write significantly more on any given topic. As a player of the game, I am interested in player opinions of things, and would both love to hear from you, and, in an official capacity, love to elaborate those opinions to people who need to hear them. Yes, I do not have a big reddit presence, etc, but I am at least a little active on the EvE-O forums.

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#19 - 2016-01-05 21:01:28 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
If no one better pop ups you may be my number one this year.



Vic Jefferson: because no one better is going to pop up
#20 - 2016-01-06 07:16:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Vic Jefferson
K)GrrGoons

So last year I ran, not endorsed by mind you, but ran as a member of goonswarm. I have come to see the error of my ways. However, I do believe there is nothing quite so honest as a reformed goon. Some of you may think this is horsefeatherrs, but I was the #16 top Imperium killer in October according to Gevlon, for what that's worth, and apparently #35 in December. Not bad for a small time operator! I don't just SAY grr goons, ladies and gentlemen, grr goons is a way of life for me!

Anyway, if you are looking for someone who is unapologetically grr goons to balance out all the candidates that are owned by them (or will be owned by them 30 minutes after the results are announced Blink) , look no further. I fully admit that I drank the Kool Aid, and you should too; for every blue they put on the map, for every conflict they prevent from happening, New Eden is a more mundane place, and for what? New Eden is supposed to be a veritable maelstrom of conflict; large scale organized stagnation does the cluster no good. No matter what mechanics are implemented in game to try and spur conflict, one thing remains crystal clear; goons do not actually like conflict and they will do anything possible to fight changes politically or militarily.

Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?

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