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Cpt Bunny
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-05-12 19:06:22 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shake-my-citadel/
read this first,


Considering the x large structure will have doomsday capability, ,it might be fair to expect these structures to be larger / more expensive than titans to build ? and at 100k across, its gona take a few trit to make just one. any thoughts on this ?
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#2 - 2015-05-12 19:20:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
We've been told they will be similar in price to outposts, the structure they will be replacing.

Edit: that said we don't know how outposts/POS stuff will be refunded and I think CCP are hoping these will be a lot more popular than starbases and outposts. There's also the modules and rigs the new structures will use, the latter of which are going to be very expensive.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2015-05-12 23:48:08 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
We've been told they will be similar in price to outposts, the structure they will be replacing.



This raises a question (having never been involved in logistics for a sov alliance).

What goes in to producing outposts? Is it mostly liquid ISK, mostly minerals, mostly PI stuff, mostly moongoo, or something else?


If the present system is mostly minerals and the new system mostly PI (for instance) there will be big economic shocks from the changes.

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Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#4 - 2015-05-12 23:48:33 UTC
Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#5 - 2015-05-13 00:05:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
What goes in to producing outposts? Is it mostly liquid ISK, mostly minerals, mostly PI stuff, mostly moongoo, or something else?

There are two basic stages:
* Build the construction platform from station components (minerals, PI)
* Anchor and fill the construction platform (minerals, and I seem to recall NPC commodities like janitors)
... and after downtime an outpost appears. [Hence this is sensibly done just before downtime.]
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#6 - 2015-05-15 12:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Looks to be a 20bn venture for the construction of the Outpost Platforms alone.

Amarr Factory Outpost Bill of Materials:

Quote:

Material - Quantity

Tritanium - 910,000,075
Nocxium - 2,140,052
Zydrine - 332,088
Organic Mortar Applicators - 2,588
Nano-Factory - 2,376
Self-Harmonizing Power Core - 1,895
Broadcast Node - 1,548
Recursive Computing Module - 1,427
Sterile Conduits - 1,089
Wetware Mainframe - 996
Integrity Response Drones - 809

Total Volume of Materials: 10,397,522.15 m3
Total Cost of Materials: 20,545,737,172.35 ISK


Lots of Planetary commodities. Smile

Could be balanced towards more future WH Drifter resources, perhaps.

Amarr Control Tower (Large) in comparison,

Quote:

Material - Quantity

Tritanium - 3,493,872
Pyerite - 843,993
Mexallon - 339,561
Isogen - 45,936
Nocxium - 13,770
Zydrine - 4,842
Megacyte - 1,908
Integrity Response Drones - 36
Organic Mortar Applicators - 31
Sterile Conduits - 31
Nano-Factory - 29
Broadcast Node - 20
Self-Harmonizing Power Core - 20
Recursive Computing Module - 20
Wetware Mainframe - 13

Total Volume of Materials: 67,438.82 m3
Total Cost of Materials: 293,688,924.25 ISK


Minerals here account for 22% of the input costs. Smile

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-05-15 14:44:31 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
We've been told they will be similar in price to outposts, the structure they will be replacing.



This raises a question (having never been involved in logistics for a sov alliance).

What goes in to producing outposts? Is it mostly liquid ISK, mostly minerals, mostly PI stuff, mostly moongoo, or something else?


If the present system is mostly minerals and the new system mostly PI (for instance) there will be big economic shocks from the changes.

From my experience from 2011 (outpost in IS-OBW) the main work was for me to gather all the PI i needed. Minerals were pretty easily farmed by coprmates from Drone Alloys. There was almost no ISK involved (i bought BPOs for outpost components for like 100-200 million and that's all, all other taxes were not present in sov-0.0 space).

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