Market Discussions

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Ahhh, yes ze moonz minerals - fascinating topic.

A little something on the little diamonds of Eve™:

During the height of the BoB war the price of Dysprosium was very high due to almost complete destruction of production capacity in the Delve region. Immediately after, over a period of three months, as more new towers came online, prices fell around 14-17% from the peaks of the war, before selling off sharply in October of 2009 on the news that some Dyspro T2 production inputs would be reduced and redirected elsewhere, along with boost to Alchemy - making it possible to create the unrefined product of normal reaction involving Dysprosium, by substituting it with an R8 moon material at a 5x exchange rate vs. 20x previously.

Dyspro distribution: http://i.imgur.com/y7MZHqw.png?1

There may, or may not have been a cartel during the time leading up to 2009 Dominion update.

Price had collapsed 95% over the course of the next three years, going as low as 10k ISK p/u, before showing signs of life, courtesy of Odyssey expansion launched Summer 2013, which introduced four new Composites, aimed at rebalancing R32/R64 overall demand. In the case of Dysprosium, it is the Nonlinear Metamaterials Composite advanced material - added as new requirement to some blueprints, such as the manufacturing of Scalar Capacitor Units - used in all Caldari T2 ships; Capital Scalar Capacitor Units & Capital Quantum Microprocessors, needed for the production of the Rhea Jump Freighter. The three other Composites are all racially "linked" in a similar manner.

Oddysey also changed some T2 manufacturing inputs in favour of Dysprosium, and other R64s, which had been under-used, at the expense of Technetium.

The story with Technetium, is a story for another time.

Dysprosium has since retraced 49% of the levels seen during the Second Great Eve War.

EvE is real.

That's deflation is kicking in, as the ISBotter effects are being mitigated.

Check the price of HACs, Recons or anything else that couldn't be artificially-generated with ISBotting, and you'll see 70-100% increase since the year 2011-YC113.

Who needs working out when you've got butthurt and guesswork to rely on? This guys swings between "ISBoxers made too much ISK and caused inflation!" and "ISBoxers brought in too many minerals and caused deflation!". Turns out he's only been playing a couple of months, doesn't realise that other factors exist and can be safely ignored.

If my a** had a name and could talk, it'd be GankYou.

I love reading arguments like this.

Thank you Lucas, GankYou and Zahara for the entertainment.

You can have prices in general rising, inflation, with prices going down in a specific sector.

Anyone with a basic familiarity of mathematics would realize this.

Because you can't milk the moon for more than 100 * 24 * 30 = 72,000 units per material type per month, Lucas.

Because of the artificial leveraged income per 1 player, which did not match the resource acquisition, apart from Tech 1 ores and minerals, nor did it match Universal consumption - the most important part of it all.

We had this discussion in the appropriate thread.

You see, the thing is, that there were and still are no additional 10 players to get this dank ISK, or resources for that matter. Instead, you have one player, which most certainly exists with all of his accounts to his private legal RL entity/natural person, creating 19, 20, 50 artificial entities, which again, are not there if you're looking for a player equivalent, and printing ISK in effect. The. People. Are. Not. There. To. Match. It. However hard one looks, even in emulating the naked ISK income levels as a collective.

This discussion is off topic for this thread, though it does relate to the topic of resource acquisition, which could not be spawned on demand by ISBotter groups.

All this dank ISK floating in the economy right now, I am almost ashamed to cap it myself.

But it will filter out, it'll bleed out of the system in a few months to a year, with a few (pleasant) surprises coming down the road.

We'll be back to Re-Building Eve for the Second Decade.

So It Has Been - So It Will Be So.