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Test server skill points. faster training or... ?

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ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-22 04:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ekimju
Loving the test server so much, i wish the training on here could be different though so i can actually test out everything i want,
a lot of combat, industy, setting up structures, exploring fully etc.

thoughts about skill point revamps for test server or points awarded or something like that or possibly quicker training times. everything else is a gimmie i dont see how this cant be possible as well, so many players will come i bet.

people able to do everything aswell will help the test process this way 1000x better. to many people are limited and get bored is the downfall.
Noriko Mai
#2 - 2015-03-22 15:33:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
ekimju wrote:
Loving the test server so much, i wish the training on here could be different though so i can actually test out everything i want,
a lot of combat, industy, setting up structures, exploring fully etc.

thoughts about skill point revamps for test server or points awarded or something like that or possibly quicker training times. everything else is a gimmie i dont see how this cant be possible as well, so many players will come i bet.

Participate in masstest and get 2M SP up to five times. The test server is for CCP testing new features. It's just a nice coincidence that you can test/try things you are interested in (like fittings, industry, setting up structures, etc).

ekimju wrote:
people able to do everything aswell will help the test process this way 1000x better. to many people are limited and get bored is the downfall.

No. People able to do everything will have all skill at 5 and only the top tier stuff will be tested. And the testserver is not purly for your entertainment... Cool
You can also copy skills from TQ so you can skill something different on SiSi and have twice the amount of SP trained in that timeframe. Singularity player commands

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein

ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-03-22 18:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ekimju
Noriko Mai wrote:
ekimju wrote:
Loving the test server so much, i wish the training on here could be different though so i can actually test out everything i want,
a lot of combat, industy, setting up structures, exploring fully etc.

thoughts about skill point revamps for test server or points awarded or something like that or possibly quicker training times. everything else is a gimmie i dont see how this cant be possible as well, so many players will come i bet.

Participate in masstest and get 2M SP up to five times. The test server is for CCP testing new features. It's just a nice coincidence that you can test/try things you are interested in (like fittings, industry, setting up structures, etc).

ekimju wrote:
people able to do everything aswell will help the test process this way 1000x better. to many people are limited and get bored is the downfall.

No. People able to do everything will have all skill at 5 and only the top tier stuff will be tested. And the testserver is not purly for your entertainment... Cool
You can also copy skills from TQ so you can skill something different on SiSi and have twice the amount of SP trained in that timeframe. Singularity player commands


Test servers normally mean you can test things. not do everything the same as the real server. the server scale is huge and its sad not many people play on it. most are multiboxing in combat areas. make training time faster atleast or something like that as i said before. keep people wanting to actually play on it.
Sooyoung snsd
EndlessRain
Naval Defence Alliance
#4 - 2015-03-22 21:23:07 UTC
as stated before, this server isnt for you, its for ccp. you get 2m sp and can get +5 implants for free. thats extra skills for you
ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-03-22 21:43:06 UTC
define a testing server, it wouldn't be to try out all the features as possible or to try out new ideas by doing things to try to find out bugs in all those features would it ? i mean they mention for new people to come and play after all.. so whos it for ?
Spacial Girl
Ethereal Beings
#6 - 2015-03-22 22:11:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Spacial Girl
ekimju wrote:
define a testing server, it wouldn't be to try out all the features as possible or to try out new ideas by doing things to try to find out bugs in all those features would it ? i mean they mention for new people to come and play after all.. so whos it for ?


As stated previously this server is for testing releases and gaining player feedback on anything implemented.

The Server is for Feedback

The server is not EFT, EFT is EFT.

The server contains everything you should ever need seeded. ESPECIALLY STUFF RELATED TO TESTING FEATURES...

The ONLY way to gain FREE SP is through masstests.

You can't max out skills for free because that would skew what is tested on a massive scale compared to that of TQ.

CCP Will not seed Deadspace/Officer/Supercaps at any point unless they have changed in a very massive way.
ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-03-22 22:23:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ekimju
faster training, more starting skill points. it doesn't have to be free all 5 skills everyone have fun in a titan now.

for the most part. the most people just sit in combat area's with there alt repping eachother. they obviously never tested games either and just want internet bragging points.

you need more players, fresh minds. new ideas so they can try different things in game to figure out the bugs and kinks and Loop holes.

i can see why people wouldn't want free SP, some like being the biggest kid on the block. but its not gonna help gameplay in the REAL server in the longrun.

its a TEST SERVER after all. people are still gonna want there FREE SP for the mass tests. because that's where it counts at the end of the day.
Spacial Girl
Ethereal Beings
#8 - 2015-03-23 01:05:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Spacial Girl
ekimju wrote:
faster training, more starting skill points. it doesn't have to be free all 5 skills everyone have fun in a titan now.

for the most part. the most people just sit in combat area's with there alt repping eachother. they obviously never tested games either and just want internet bragging points.

you need more players, fresh minds. new ideas so they can try different things in game to figure out the bugs and kinks and Loop holes.

i can see why people wouldn't want free SP, some like being the biggest kid on the block. but its not gonna help gameplay in the REAL server in the longrun.

its a TEST SERVER after all. people are still gonna want there FREE SP on TQ for the mass tests. because that's where it counts at the end of the day.


Did you miss the part about that there IS free SP?

You Masstest and Help CCP and they Help You with FREE Sp, 2million free points (roughly 2 months of training).

The people that spend all of their time in the CA's have their own agendas but it all generates an error at one point or another, especially with the T3's that have been releasing.

NO FREE SP HAS EVER GIVEN ON TQ
ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-03-23 07:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ekimju
you are one of those people i was talking about lol. watched belts tonight just to make sure. like how most people on here are against it. guess what they were doing as well..

like i said before it doesn't have to be free, it can be multiplied to be quicker at least. incentives maybe for staying longer and playing on the test server. more time you spend more reward or something. i would much rather talk to people that work for the company instead. ive had way better luck in constructive play conversations.

im not against if people just wanna PVP and wreck stuff the whole time.. but you kind of need more of other players not worrying about killing someone so much to the point where they login a capital alt just to win for bragging rights on a test server.

cant find anyone that wants to try out PVE either to test a bunch of things out or to try item dupings or other loop holes tricks and nits learned from other games and so on then to report to HELP out besides the obvious to everyone bug.

ill just give up, i think ill join the herd and wait till its to late. no lagg in a billion ship fight is awesome though. lets just worry about that right. so bitter, this could be so much better and get actual new people to stay more than a day once a month.
Vorll Minaaran
Centre Of Attention
#10 - 2015-03-23 10:36:53 UTC
ekimju wrote:
define a testing server, it wouldn't be to try out all the features as possible or to try out new ideas by doing things to try to find out bugs in all those features would it ? i mean they mention for new people to come and play after all.. so whos it for ?


One of the most important parameters of a test, how accurate is? How much similar is the test enviroment to the live server? When the test server works differently, it should have a testing reason (new feature, experimenting settings, chasing bugs, etc).
But overall, the base mecjanics should stay the same as the live server to have comparable test results.

sautia
ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-03-23 10:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ekimju
ive given up trying to talk to players about it. thankfully ive been emailing back n forth wth some people. feeling alot better.
Sooyoung snsd
EndlessRain
Naval Defence Alliance
#12 - 2015-03-23 15:55:33 UTC
you seem pretty butthurt about not having the sp of others...still running the large rep carrier are we?
Spacial Girl
Ethereal Beings
#13 - 2015-03-23 17:33:48 UTC
ekimju wrote:
you are one of those people i was talking about lol. watched belts tonight just to make sure. like how most people on here are against it. guess what they were doing as well..

like i said before it doesn't have to be free, it can be multiplied to be quicker at least. incentives maybe for staying longer and playing on the test server. more time you spend more reward or something. i would much rather talk to people that work for the company instead. ive had way better luck in constructive play conversations.

im not against if people just wanna PVP and wreck stuff the whole time.. but you kind of need more of other players not worrying about killing someone so much to the point where they login a capital alt just to win for bragging rights on a test server.

cant find anyone that wants to try out PVE either to test a bunch of things out or to try item dupings or other loop holes tricks and nits learned from other games and so on then to report to HELP out besides the obvious to everyone bug.

ill just give up, i think ill join the herd and wait till its to late. no lagg in a billion ship fight is awesome though. lets just worry about that right. so bitter, this could be so much better and get actual new people to stay more than a day once a month.


The SP Mechanic implemented through mastesting is CCP PRIMARY INCENTIVE to keep players masstesting. If there was any other way to accelerate the rate at witch players gained SP the primary issue would become how to incentive-ize the attendance of masstests. Those tests also ask players to bring a good MIX of ships as to give data on the performance of various ships in the environment (ie 6 beam laser boats did 9 times the damage to the control tower compared to 6 railgun boats).

The masstests are CCP's primary data collection babies, trying to give incentive to any other use of the server would probably be a poor choice on their part.

Conversations happen all the time in the Release & Feedback threads, try checking them out.

I'm sure you also tried to describe finding exploits on the server, something like that should be preformed with caution as exploiting is exploiting regardless of what server you are on and may not be dealt with as kindly as you would think.

So long story short, CCP's Goal is masstest attendance and feature/re-balance/change feedback, it doesn't seem maintaining a long term populous is on their list of things to do with this server.

TL:DR
Server is for CCP's Goals
You are a Guest
Things have been like this for a long time and it has changed a bit, but not much because it seems to work.
Cadre Arareb
The Cadre Arareb Foundation
#14 - 2015-03-26 02:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Cadre Arareb
" the server scale is huge and its sad not many people play on it."

Singularity (Sisi) might be a large group of computers similar to any server you play on, but the setup that runs Sisi cannot be compared to the Major setup that runs Tranquility.

Sisi is a relatively weak system compared to its older brother. It does act similar to TQ in the fact it clusters systems together, but can only handle a limited people. The server operates healthy at about 100-150 people. It can begin to slow down or TiDi if that number is exceeded. This is the reason that the server population is capped at around 500 people. For much more could cause serious issues. Creating an environment in which people who play TQ can just come to another world in which they don't have to work for something would just cause Sisi to join the other test servers in VIP Mode. On the bright side, You would never have to worry about testing again :D

The supers will rise again!

msu320
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-27 23:10:19 UTC
Skill point training will not be altered on Singularity.

The test server is intended to see how Tranquility might look with a certain patch out.

The desire for new players is so that the upcoming changes to the new player experience can be tested.
ekimju
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-03-27 23:33:04 UTC
this thread was suppose to be closed, i already got to talk to some of the ccp members about it. thanks for all your guys input though. 50/50 seems to be the argument.
surper power
The Coup House
#17 - 2015-03-28 13:08:59 UTC
A horrible thought just appeared, they are getting ready to significantly change supers, which means they will need to be tested. The dark days are returning with fighter supers and large gun Titans. Beware....