Intergalactic Summit

I should probably heed this advice myself to be honest, but with the events and information that has become available, I have been seeing people grasping at straws to try and connect them. I would like to mention the scientific axium: correlation does not equal causation, and like to share the related bit of wisdom to not try to hard to connect things together lest you start seeing patterns that don't actually exist.

Here's what we know of:

A couple of months ago a number of sleeper (or at least sleeper occupied/controlled, if not sleeper constructed) facilities have begun appearing and they seem to house a variety of materials. They also seem to have been damaged by some unknown force which has made them visible when they were previously cloaked.

As of today, sleeper ships have begun appearing in known space. So far the only actions they have taken have been to warp from point to point in a system and perform scans. These ships also appear to have shields while the sleepers found in their own space lack shields and are protected solely by armor

A number of other unidentified structures have shown up across known space. They appear to be cloaked in some fashion but the cloak is imperfect and they have become valid targets for warp in, but actual observation remains limited and no details have been gleaned yet.

A number of weeks ago an object, now dubbed Caroline's Star appeared in space visible across new Eden which suggest FTL implications, and the location has been triangulated to the UUA-F4 region, but no further data has been gleaned about it. it MAY resemble a similar anomaly that appeared a few years ago.

A member of the Sisters of Eve has come forward to reveal the location of a colonized system known as Thera that seems to have suffered an accident. it is claimed the SoE have wormhole generation capabilities, but Caroline's star has been interfering with them, but claims have not been corroborated. The nature of what has happened is still being sorted, but we do know that a number of planets have been shattered and three stations destroyed. The SoE also seem to be carying out some research related to Sleepers and talocan.


Some of these events may be linked, but not necessarily, and the research SoE has been doing in Thera may or may not be related to whatever incident happened there. We can surmise all we want, but without facts, we can;t prove much of anything.

I vote we do the exact oppsite of this.... with extreme prejudice.

I'll take the middle road. I'm willing to coexist peacefully, as long as they are too.

Ah, Amarrians. We violated their borders and everyone was fine with it. Now they finally noticed us and violated our borders and everyone looses their mind.

As long as they don't shoot civilians, I'm fine with them. Perhaps we will be finally able to establish a contact and share some knowledge.

I think perhaps the point is that we, not just Amarrians, but all capsuleers already invaded their sovereign space and even attacked them. For them now to come into our space seems more of a reaction than premeditated aggression.

-Eran

Some strange double-standards there. Also, I wouldn't consider scanning things, as if searching for something lost, to be that frightening especially considering how many thousands of sleeper drones we've destroyed and sites and relics we've brought back to K-space. People are beginning to realize the Sleepers aren't as mindless as they assumed, and perhaps that's the most frightening thing about it, perhaps our actions do have consequences.

-Eran

For me, this are Scouts scanning all our infrastructure for strategic informations in preparation of an initial strike against humanity, maybe an invasion, maybe just checking witch targets are worth drestroying and obliterate them all in one strike.
I've found some of them scanning a Customs Office in Branch the employees told me they allready scanned the planetary colony. I destroyed them just to make sure, they don't collect more strategic data.

We should remember the Sleeper Messege we received and what might follow...

Sleeper Message

They don't have any peacyfully attempts. This is an revenge campain!

And what makes me as scared as it gets, they don't even try to hide themselves!
This is not the behavior of someone fighting an enemy who could fight back.
This is the behavior of someone who says "now its my turn and there is nothing you can do about it"

The empires can't defend themselves from Nations incursions, how should they against an enemy like the sleepers?
Have you ever fight against some of them?
Your shields are melting in their fire, your amor ripped apard from their pure destructive power and it feels like your ships structure does not exist.
We on the other side can't realy harm their amor without the help of capitalships as support.

And now remember what the message says:


We just faced their children!
I prepare for the worst and you should do so too.

Always have enough guns for when shite hits the fan, Sleeper or no, this is a dangerous cluster. Even if there are no Sleepers here, there are still other capsuleers, and by my reckoning, us capsuleers are far worse than anything W-space can throw at us.

And you are taking that message seriously? No matter how I look at it it looked like some University thespian trying to garner some publicity about some film or poetry about Sleepers or whatnot.

Way I see it, they are studying us, rather than having contempt against us. For the Sleepers, we must be some kind of alien lifeform that they know very little about. Remember that we had not encountered functioning members of the Sleeper civilization (all we had till then were unoccupied ruins mostly floating around in Matari space) until that fateful day after the Seyllin Incident. We know so very little about them, and they, most likely, also know so little about us.

Now the question is why are they studying us? Academic curiosity? Or something more sinister? It is too early to judge, especially considering how little we know about these Sleeper Circadian Sleepers and the installations they service. All we know is that these installations are certainly for reconnaissance and that they are gathering materials and, from the looks of it, fabricating their version of our tech, based on their understanding, and that many of their known-space installations are capable of generating wormholes of their own. Other than that? We do not know! And it should be our business to know, before we start deciding whether to destroy them, or not.

I will repeat myself. The best thing to do currently is to investigate, get our facts straight, THEN we decide whether to wardec the Sleepers or not. On the subject of arming ourselves, go ahead. It will be stupid not to. This is New Eden after all. The stars are unfriendly.