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Dev Blog: Welcome to developers.testeveonline.com

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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-10-06 12:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
The new developer site is now live and running! If you're a third party developer then you'll want to keep an eye on this site in the future. Read all about it here.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2014-10-06 12:46:31 UTC
As a note, the developers license is placeholder while on Sisi. We will have that when we go to TQ.

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2014-10-06 13:23:03 UTC
nom nom nom! Looking forward to checking this stuff out when I don't have to work!

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2014-10-06 13:47:28 UTC
When logging into the developers site if you get told your account is not valid please check you have verified your email address, even if you think you have please double check.

To check if your email address is verified please go to: https://secure.eveonline.com/AccountManMenu.aspx

You should see a green check mark by your email address. If you do NOT see that, go here: https://secure.eveonline.com/EditAccountInfo.aspx and click the Verify e-mail address button.

Then try logging into the developers site again.

If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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Bloemkoolsaus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-10-06 14:01:48 UTC
I was starting to get excited!!

But then;
CCP FoxFour wrote:
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?


I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Smile

Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us!
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2014-10-06 14:03:48 UTC
Bloemkoolsaus wrote:
I was starting to get excited!!

But then;
CCP FoxFour wrote:
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?


I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Smile

Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us!


This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :(

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Darkblad
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-10-06 14:08:46 UTC
EMT Holding
EMT Holding Corporation
#8 - 2014-10-06 14:32:55 UTC  |  Edited by: EMT Holding
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Bloemkoolsaus wrote:
I was starting to get excited!!

But then;
CCP FoxFour wrote:
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?


I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Smile

Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us!


This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :(

Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development?

EDIT: I did have a credit card assigned to my account but since I started paying with PLEX, that information was removed as I "cancelled" the recurring payment. Are you now indicating that I have to add this information back on for a month and leave it just to see whatever is hidden behind your application management page?
Fireborn ETF
Ida Tech
#9 - 2014-10-06 14:58:40 UTC

Great work guys! Big smile


Can we maybe have Callback URL setting as a list of allowed callback URLs, so we can use different callbacks for different oauth token request scenarios?


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CCP raRaRa
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2014-10-06 15:13:43 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=developers.testeveonline.com

Sad Panda Bear


No need for sad panda!

I went to CCP Tier's desk and this is what I found on his screen:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/9ksED2g.png[/img]

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2014-10-06 15:16:07 UTC
Fireborn ETF wrote:

Great work guys! Big smile


Can we maybe have Callback URL setting as a list of allowed callback URLs, so we can use different callbacks for different oauth token request scenarios?




Unfortunately no, if you really do need multiple callback URLs you will need to create multiple client IDs.

There are other options however. We do NOT strip out extra URL parameters. So you could include an extra parameter to indicate a proper redirection. The state parameter is also available.

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2014-10-06 15:16:56 UTC
EMT Holding wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Bloemkoolsaus wrote:
I was starting to get excited!!

But then;
CCP FoxFour wrote:
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?


I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Smile

Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us!


This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :(

Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development?

EDIT: I did have a credit card assigned to my account but since I started paying with PLEX, that information was removed as I "cancelled" the recurring payment. Are you now indicating that I have to add this information back on for a month and leave it just to see whatever is hidden behind your application management page?


Having used a credit card in the past should be all you need. Even having just bought a PLEX instead of subscription should be enough.

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#13 - 2014-10-06 15:56:16 UTC
EMT Holding wrote:

Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development?

I think that the reason is quite simple.

If the account you're using has a transaction with a credit card then they can claim that they at least have a theoretical legal ability to know who you are.

Which in turn makes life much easier for the Devs in their conversation with the legal team.

At least that's my somewhat qualified guess ;)

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Jezza McWaffle
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#14 - 2014-10-06 15:57:57 UTC
Why is a credit card required instead of a debit card or alternative form of online payment like Paypal? Its a stupid idea.

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Althalus Stenory
Flying Blacksmiths
#15 - 2014-10-06 16:09:33 UTC
this... rocks ? Oh god, there are no words to say it with enough strength lol :D :D :D
*excited*

Thanks !

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#16 - 2014-10-06 16:20:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Lors Dornick
Jezza McWaffle wrote:
Why is a credit card required instead of a debit card or alternative form of online payment like Paypal? Its a stupid idea.

Debit could work, but not paypal since it's not trackable.

edit: 'legally trackable'

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Kossaw
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
#17 - 2014-10-06 16:22:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kossaw
CCP FoxFour wrote:
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?


Great, I happen to have a credit card and yes I've paid you with it ...

But I fail to say ANY valid reason why you should demand that I have one so that I can use this site. Not everyone has a credit card, and there are some pretty valid reasons for not having one. Already on day one somebody has hit this issue.

Please explain.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#18 - 2014-10-06 16:30:58 UTC
umm... Whee!

Smile

https://github.com/fuzzysteve/eve-sso-auth

May be of interest to people.

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#19 - 2014-10-06 16:31:12 UTC
Kossaw wrote:


But I fail to say ANY valid reason why you should demand that I have one so that I can use this site.

It's very simple.
They want to know who you are before your get full access.
Linking an account to a credit card is the easiest way to do this.

And if they want to have this information out, without having to develop a more complex solution, this is the way.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

EMT Holding
EMT Holding Corporation
#20 - 2014-10-06 16:31:24 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
EMT Holding wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Bloemkoolsaus wrote:
I was starting to get excited!!

But then;
CCP FoxFour wrote:
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?


I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Smile

Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us!


This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :(

Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development?

EDIT: I did have a credit card assigned to my account but since I started paying with PLEX, that information was removed as I "cancelled" the recurring payment. Are you now indicating that I have to add this information back on for a month and leave it just to see whatever is hidden behind your application management page?


Having used a credit card in the past should be all you need. Even having just bought a PLEX instead of subscription should be enough.

Turns out the account I was trying to use it on has never had a credit card tied to it. Activated with a GTC and then always "paid" with PLEX. Tried another account that does have a CC linked and that worked fine.

As Kossaw said though, I fail to see any good reason why you're demanding the use of a credit card before being allowed access to whatever dev tools you'll hide behind it.
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