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Serpentis Burner Fit - No Bling/No Alts

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Lex Lynn
Bob's Unicorns of Destruction
#1 - 2014-08-27 05:02:24 UTC
[Daredevil, Serpentis Burner]

2x Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S

1x 1MN Afterburner II
2x 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Prototype Armor Thermic Hardner
1x Small Ancillary Armor Repairer - Nanite Repair Paste

2x Small Anti-Kinetic Pump II
1x Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Nanite Repair Paste
Void S

- Overheat everything
-Approach and web immediately
-Profit

Thanks to Commander Maxter for the initial fit/theory crafting.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#2 - 2014-08-27 15:25:34 UTC
For the love of god get fleeting webs
Lex Lynn
Bob's Unicorns of Destruction
#3 - 2014-08-27 22:15:28 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
For the love of god get fleeting webs

Upgrade as you see fit :)
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-08-27 23:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
This fit illustrates the problem with burner missions atm. These missions are impossible to do with 3/4th of AFs, all faction, and 5/6th of pirate frigates, assuming maxed out skills and faction mods. Yet, it's easy as pie with Daredevil due to web bonus and high blaster dps.

Deadspace rep with infinite cap is impossible to balance. They should have used buffer as a balancing factor instead.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-08-28 00:14:44 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
This fit illustrates the problem with burner missions atm. These missions are impossible to do with 3/4th of AFs, all faction, and 5/6th of pirate frigates, assuming maxed out skills and faction mods. Yet, it's easy as pie with Daredevil due to web bonus and high blaster dps.

Deadspace rep with infinite cap is impossible to balance. They should have used buffer as a balancing factor instead.



Well to be fair they were expecting people to fleet up much of the time.
Vlad Vladimir Vladinovsky
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-08-29 14:45:59 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
This fit illustrates the problem with burner missions atm. These missions are impossible to do with 3/4th of AFs, all faction, and 5/6th of pirate frigates, assuming maxed out skills and faction mods. Yet, it's easy as pie with Daredevil due to web bonus and high blaster dps.

Deadspace rep with infinite cap is impossible to balance. They should have used buffer as a balancing factor instead.



Well to be fair they were expecting people to fleet up much of the time.

I thought these missions were for 1v1, the LP and isk output of these missions combined with the bounty isn't worth it when trying to run multiple people for an EWAR immune NPC that has every advantage over a player
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-08-29 21:09:09 UTC
Vlad Vladimir Vladinovsky wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
This fit illustrates the problem with burner missions atm. These missions are impossible to do with 3/4th of AFs, all faction, and 5/6th of pirate frigates, assuming maxed out skills and faction mods. Yet, it's easy as pie with Daredevil due to web bonus and high blaster dps.

Deadspace rep with infinite cap is impossible to balance. They should have used buffer as a balancing factor instead.



Well to be fair they were expecting people to fleet up much of the time.

I thought these missions were for 1v1, the LP and isk output of these missions combined with the bounty isn't worth it when trying to run multiple people for an EWAR immune NPC that has every advantage over a player

Exactly, it was presented as a 1v1 mock PvP mission against an NPC. Unfortunately that NPC has max skill stats using top of the line bling equipment, is basically EWAR immune and has unlimited amount of Cap and Munitions.

Now if the intention of this mission was to introduce PvE players to PvP then it definitely failed.

Ugh



DMC
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#8 - 2014-08-29 22:16:15 UTC

I think these burner missions are a good step in the right direction.

Most PvE makes you think ships are super easy to destroy. As such, going into PvP you get unpleasantly surprised at the resilience of player ships. Perhaps burner missions are purposely reversing that stereotype!
Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2014-08-29 22:48:53 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Now if the intention of this mission was to introduce PvE players to PvP then it definitely failed


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Lugalzagezi666
#10 - 2014-08-30 05:59:43 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

I think these burner missions are a good step in the right direction.

Definitely. They learn mission runners that the most efficient way to destroy solo enemy ship is to blob it with 2 or more accounts.
LolLol
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#11 - 2014-08-30 06:05:12 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

I think these burner missions are a good step in the right direction.

Most PvE makes you think ships are super easy to destroy. As such, going into PvP you get unpleasantly surprised at the resilience of player ships. Perhaps burner missions are purposely reversing that stereotype!



eh, it encourages gimmick fits even more than missions already did. honestly my lv4 battleships are closer to pvp fit than any anti-burner frig I EVER fit will be. They remind me of when I was a newb, and read the mission survival guide and changed my hardeners depending on who I was up against....

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Ravay Kanjus
Infinity Blue
#12 - 2014-08-30 12:30:42 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
when I was a newb, and read the mission survival guide and changed my hardeners depending on who I was up against....


You're supposed to change your hardeners depending on the mission you get if it's PVE. If you're fitting omni tanks in missions where the NPCs don't deal omni, you're still being a newb.
infra52x
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-09-01 21:56:48 UTC
Ravay Kanjus wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
when I was a newb, and read the mission survival guide and changed my hardeners depending on who I was up against....


You're supposed to change your hardeners depending on the mission you get if it's PVE. If you're fitting omni tanks in missions where the NPCs don't deal omni, you're still being a newb.



Ya, your spot on, we are all "supposed to" fly around with a gaping resist hole that screams gank me ! If the guy wants to omni tank and not be arsed to have to change out hardeners it's his business. No need to be calling him a noob .. You probably fly your Tengu with zero em resist too I bet... I may have to run a locator and shake the dust off my nado..
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#14 - 2014-09-02 04:47:24 UTC
no bling? The ship is worth almost as much as 1/2 a battleship for just the hull. You can bling any assault frig to taste for the cost of a daredevil... post title is a misnomer...
snake03
#15 - 2014-09-02 10:18:33 UTC
Ravay Kanjus wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
when I was a newb, and read the mission survival guide and changed my hardeners depending on who I was up against....


You're supposed to change your hardeners depending on the mission you get if it's PVE. If you're fitting omni tanks in missions where the NPCs don't deal omni, you're still being a newb.



Hmm, angel burner is hitting me with em rockets and fusion ammo, so much for your theory.

I'm just a modern day caveman in search of a bigger club.

gomlee
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-09-04 02:47:16 UTC
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

I think these burner missions are a good step in the right direction.

Definitely. They learn mission runners that the most efficient way to destroy solo enemy ship is to blob it with 2 or more accounts.
LolLol

Lol
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-09-04 09:20:04 UTC
Ravay Kanjus wrote:
You're supposed to change your hardeners depending on the mission you get if it's PVE. If you're fitting omni tanks in missions where the NPCs don't deal omni, you're still being a newb.


what? say again?

i fit omni tank so i dont have to bother switching hardners...