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The itemID of a blueprint should not change. If you just buy one from the market and it's still in it's packaged state then it may change when you finally do something with it. After that though it should not change. At least not to my knowledge.

As a heads up, I hope later in August (I am gone for the month of July on vacation) to put out an API endpoint that will just list all blueprints and their PE/TE/runs.

I think you would make a lot of people very happy. I think people started asking for something like that when the API first came out.

OK, admittedly when I first read this post I was a bit... upset and decided not to respond. The first couple of things I thought about saying would give our community/PR teams a heart attack. :P

After thinking some more I realized there was something I could say that should probably not anger anyone, and that would be the following:

I cannot undo things in the past, all I and the rest of CCP can do is work on doing better in the future.

I would however like to point a few things out to you:

If you follow this thread there has been a, relatively speaking, very large amount of work done on the EVE API and public CREST as of late.

On top of actual work the amount of discussion between players and devs on what you guys need from us and what we can do is pretty darn high.

We said at FanFest we would ensure there were new APIs to support the revamp of all the industry features. While Crius is not even out yet you can find all of the following things on Sisi right now:
EVE API:

• Added corp/Facilities
** Returns a list of all outpost and POS industrial facilities your corporation owns
** Cache time is 1 hour

• Added corp/IndustryJobsHistory
** Returns a list of up to 1k (will look at tweaking in the future) running or completed jobs for your corporation
** Cache time is 6 hours

• Added char/IndustryJobsHistory
** Returns a list of up to 1k (will look at tweaking in the future) running or completed jobs for your character
** Cache time is 6 hours

• Updated corp/IndustryJobs
** Returns a list of up to 1k (will look at tweaking in the future) running jobs for your corporation
** Cache time is 15 minutes

• Updated char/IndustryJobs
** Returns a list of up to 1k (will look at tweaking in the future) running jobs for your character
** Cache time is 15 minutes

• Fixed cache timers on the corp/Medals and api/ApiCalls endpoints

Public CREST:

• Added market/Prices
** Returns a list of all items that have an average market price or adjusted market price and what their average or adjusted market price is.
** Average price is the same price you see when you select an item in your inventory.
** Adjusted price is what the industry formulas use.

• Added industry/facilities
** Lists all public facilities within New Eden

• Added industry/specialities
** Lists all specialities that can be associated with teams and what groups they modify

• Added industry/specialities/specialityID
** Details what groups a specific speciality modifies

• Added industry/teams
** Lists all teams in active use in the known universe (not WH systems)

• Added industry/systems
** Lists the cost index of installing jobs in the known universe (not WH systems)

• Added the CREST root to public CREST
** Simply going to https://public-crest-sisi.eveonline.com/ will now return the CREST root

On top of all that at FanFest we said we would get the developer license agreement out for review, not that it would be in effect but that we would let you see it's current state. That promise was kept several weeks later with this thread.

At FanFest we said we would open up the SSO to a limited number of sites for a trial. That has been done. You can see the sign-up thread here and there will actually be a dev blog out later today with an update on that.

CCP Nullarbor is working on a dev blog right now to go over not just all the API changes for Crius but also some of the calculations and formulas that you will need for industry.

Counting the SSO dev blog out today that means I will have had 3 third party developer focused dev blogs out in the last 30 days.

I could go on listing things but my point in all of this is the following: We at CCP cannot change the past but we can change the future. I would ask that when you are judging us on things you look at our recent actions, which I think speak for themselves. We have been incredibly active with third party developers getting you what you need. Our backlog for things to do/fix has been prioritized based on conversations with you guys. On top of that and most importantly we have been following through on our promises and we have been explaining ourselves pretty well.

So there, I said it in the most polite way I could think of. If your opinion is unchanged... well I will just stop talking because I don't know what else to say.

You do a great job FoxFour. :-) Looking forward to the BPO API. Till then, i will work with my own solution.

Back to topic: Solved my problem and have a table with all my blueprints and the me/pe values now.

Will check all the CREST stuff now for future things. :-)

Enjoy your time off; you've been very busy lately and need the time to recharge.

Can you (or someone else) comment on what steps CCP is taking so that when the inevitable post-install problems in Crius are discovered we aren't all hamstrung until your return? Traditionally* CCP takes August off, so veteran players look at late July releases with a fair bit of dread.

MDD
* Maybe this is changing, too.

Good to know. Thanks for taking the time to ensure that someone can work on "your stuff" while you're gone.

I've gone pretty far astray (and hopefully I'll stop the derail with this post), but you might pass the word to a producer that a DevBlog about how personnel are distributed/assigned and how coverage is handled might be interesting. Not saying that should be the entirety of the DevBlog, but since CCP has switched from 2 expansions per year to releases every 6 weeks (roughly), someone might want to iterate on that change, how things went well, unexpected challenges, and whatnot.

/derail

MDD

However true that might be, I am part of CCP, and I am only allowed to do what I do because of CCP's policies. I specifically mentioned CCP Nullarbor doing things in my response but really should have included a few more points about CCP Tuxford's work, and the work of several other devs.

My response was not because my name was mentioned, but because CCP is working on improving what we deliver to third parties.

All of that aside, I am a CCP employee and part of the EVE development team.

My post was not meant to really come off as a "hey look, you are wrong stop being wrong" but more of a "hey, see we are doing things and we are improving I hope your opinion changes with that"

Thank you and I will. :)

Guuuuys give this thread back to me... :D

No, feel free to discuss this special API topic here, as long as you stay friendly and constructive. :-)