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Remove covops cloaks from T3

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#1 - 2014-05-02 12:12:01 UTC
This will fix them.

Try and prove me wrong.
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2014-05-02 12:13:32 UTC
Or just make Covops cloak and nullified mutually exclusive.

but really, go to features and ideas with this.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3 - 2014-05-02 12:15:06 UTC
They're honestly fine, cov ops is a way to force a fight.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2014-05-02 12:15:08 UTC
You sir, just fixed and won Eve at the same time.

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Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-05-02 12:16:54 UTC
As cheap as cloaky nullified T3s are, in the Interceptor age, they kind of slide down the scale of offensiveness (especially once off-grid boosting gets dealt with, and their effectiveness as booster ships get hammered).
Solecist Project
#6 - 2014-05-02 12:19:16 UTC
Still eight days to Evasive Manuvering V.

And I always put cloaks on my interceptor when going to low or null.
Saved my ass a lot of times.

Just too bad it's no covops.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ryann Padecain
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-05-02 12:22:34 UTC
Wormholes
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2014-05-02 13:02:20 UTC
Ryann Padecain wrote:
Wormholes


This isn't a matter of location - it's a matter of another broken-from-release jesus feature that still hasn't been adequately addressed since it was launched.

There are supposed to be penalties to using cloaks, but I don't see how any cruiser, even a terribly fit tengu like one I just made in pyfa - with 371dps and 70k ehp, could be called bad. It might be a bad tengu, but it still warps cloaked and has more EHP than a HAC which is a specialist combat ship as compared to this king of all trades T3 debacle.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2014-05-02 13:04:34 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong.

No. Ditto.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#10 - 2014-05-02 13:08:36 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong.

No. Ditto.


It will fix them by demanding they play on a power level relative to the time it takes to fly them combined with their potential load outs. They're very forgiving ships in terms of fitting mistakes compared to other vessels in 1v1 scenarios thanks to overly generous stats and slots.

And don't cite costs to me - t3's aren't that expensive any more. A faction battleship costs more, does less and dies faster. This **** isn't logical.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2014-05-02 13:10:30 UTC
We can remove cov ops cloaks as soon as we remove warp stabs from the game.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2014-05-02 13:12:41 UTC
Fix what?
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#13 - 2014-05-02 13:14:49 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
We can remove cov ops cloaks as soon as we remove warp stabs from the game.


That's not an argument

covops cloaks don't **** your scan res and lock range.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#14 - 2014-05-02 13:22:12 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong.

No. Ditto.


It will fix them by demanding they play on a power level relative to the time it takes to fly them combined with their potential load outs. They're very forgiving ships in terms of fitting mistakes compared to other vessels in 1v1 scenarios thanks to overly generous stats and slots.

And don't cite costs to me - t3's aren't that expensive any more. A faction battleship costs more, does less and dies faster. This **** isn't logical.


While we are on the subject of cost... did you forget we also lose SP when they go boom?

If I lose SP for flying a ship... give me some perks to motivate me to use it...
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#15 - 2014-05-02 13:24:24 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
We can remove cov ops cloaks as soon as we remove warp stabs from the game.


That's not an argument

covops cloaks don't **** your scan res and lock range.


No, instead you simply can't attack at all while you have one active.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-05-02 13:25:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessica Duranin
It seems someone just got killed by a cloaky T3... Roll

EDIT: *Checks Calebs Killboard... * We have a winner! Big smile
Jai Centarium
Anqara Expeditions
#17 - 2014-05-02 13:27:43 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
SNIP

And I always put cloaks on my interceptor when going to low or null.


Why?

The current iteration of interceptors are almost uncatchable. Yes, there are a few fits that will be able to instalock a few other fits, but by and large, interceptors can pick and choose the location of the engagement, not the other way around. They're a great tool for introducing a bit of chaos to normally quiet systems because of that, and because they're

Fitting a cloak on your interceptor makes very little sense, unless you're afk cloaking.

Certified purveyor of the High Life.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#18 - 2014-05-02 13:56:11 UTC
Remove strategy from strategic cruisers.
Bael Malefic
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-05-02 14:05:02 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
This will fix them.

Try and prove me wrong.


No, try and prove you are right.

The fact one killed you does not make it wrong.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#20 - 2014-05-02 14:09:34 UTC
Well it would save me the trouble of training for one since being able to use a covert ops cloak and use a T3 cruiser as a super duper exploration ship is the only reason I want one.
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