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Best Ship for Transporting BPO thru High

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Volar Kang
Kang Industrial
#1 - 2014-03-20 16:27:17 UTC
In my mind, using an interceptor would be the best, one fitted with maneuver/speed mods. You would warp before anyone could lock you and following you in anything else but an interceptor would be pointless. I dont have any experience in this area so any help would be appreciated. I am assuming tanked ships like a BS would be too slow and if someone scanned your cargo they could follow you and get some friends together to gank you.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#2 - 2014-03-20 16:31:40 UTC
I would recommend while transporting and important items use scouts to go ahead of u scan the area got through systems which no one was killed there for some time and move in fleet with logi to heal u up just in case.
Batelle
Filthy Peasants
#3 - 2014-03-20 16:48:49 UTC
ceptor covops or hell even a t1 frig will be sufficient 99% of the time. T3 can be both tanky and fast, and is not subject to random explosions quite as easily as frigs or even a blockade runner.

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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#4 - 2014-03-20 17:05:24 UTC
The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you.

Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down.

Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped.
Dr Cedric
Independent Miners Corporation
Care Factor
#5 - 2014-03-20 17:32:13 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you.

Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down.

Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped.


The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons.

Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you!

Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :)

Cedric

Notorious Fellon
#6 - 2014-03-20 17:33:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Notorious Fellon
I use blockade runners for said task.

No one knows what you have, and it would take a bit of luck, several points and a bit of skill to even catch one.

Fit it with DCU2, WCS (a couple if possible), the rest in tank.

When I have expensive cargo I scout mine with a second account in a logi.

Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.

Vartan Sarkisian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-03-20 17:54:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Vartan Sarkisian
Interceptor with warp core stabs and nanos in the lows, or a cov ops like a bomber again with warp corp stabs and nanos.

But depends what your carrying, if it is just regular BPOs of not much value you prob wont get ganked, if its a T2 BPO, then I think one of the above.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-03-20 18:00:07 UTC
If the blueprint isn't too valuable, a Gnosis works surprisingly well too.
You can get almost 200k EHP against Antimatter out of it and still have a decent align time.

But if the BPO is worth more than a billion, people might gank you anyway, so something stealthy will be better.

You can also double-wrap the BPO to be unscannable. (Ask a freighter pilot for how to do that). Although a double-wrapped package in a shuttle will definitely be suspicious, so maybe double-wrap it, use a freighter and pretend to be just a run-of-the-mill Red Frog alt doing a regular freight run, not worth to be ganked.
Ginger Barbarella
#9 - 2014-03-20 18:14:16 UTC
1. Don't advertise that you'll be hauling BPOs anywhere; use an alt not at way with anyone
2. Judge just how valuable the BPO is: high end T2 BPOs or valuable researched T1 BPOs (like Retriever), use a fast ship, fast align, rigged to get off gate fast.
3. Don't auto-pilot. I know, still have to say it tho.
4. Don't use a ship that'll attract attention (like a Leopard)

Just pay attention, don't AP, and don't screw around and you'll be fine.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#10 - 2014-03-20 18:23:00 UTC
I'd use a hyperion with a bit of buffer if the bpo was valuable enough, or a proteus with the warp speed sub, cov ops sub, and a decent buffer.

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#11 - 2014-03-20 18:25:16 UTC
Chemoas is pretty much the ideal ship for this task, but a normal covops will work if you don't have 100b lying around

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Batelle
Filthy Peasants
#12 - 2014-03-20 18:51:18 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:

Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down.


t3s have bigger tanks, warp faster, more agile, warp cloaked, can go to nullsec easy, same cost.

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350125GO
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#13 - 2014-03-20 18:53:51 UTC
I think this depends more on where you're transporting from and the route you're transporting through.

A cov ops is usually best bet, put an I-Stab on it so it aligns faster if you want and always cloak.

blockade runner is more secure and has option to cloak but slower align.

However, to my initial point, let's say you are trying to move the print out of Jita 4-4. Undocking from station puts you at great risk, even if you have an undock BM set up. One bit of lag and you're cov ops or intie is subject to insta-pop from anyone who scanned you.

If it's a rather valuable print, do it at off-peak times.

Don't transport in a shuttle. They get scanned all the time looking for idiots with prints or PLEX in them.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.

Volar Kang
Kang Industrial
#14 - 2014-03-20 19:08:02 UTC
As far as the cloakers go, after you enter a system and while still cloaked, you double click space to start moving and then hit your cloak right after that in order to cloak before being targeted correct?
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#15 - 2014-03-20 19:20:26 UTC
Real Clones transport their T2 BPO's in shuttles using auto pilot.

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....

God's Apples
Wilderness
#16 - 2014-03-20 19:35:46 UTC
Is nobody aware that covops haulers can't be cargo scanned? Warping cloaked really isn't difficult and using docking and instaundock bookmarks really isn't that hard.

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#17 - 2014-03-20 21:41:14 UTC
Volar Kang wrote:
As far as the cloakers go, after you enter a system and while still cloaked, you double click space to start moving and then hit your cloak right after that in order to cloak before being targeted correct?


With a cloak warper you hit warp, and then cloak.
With a non cloak warper, you hit align, cloak, mwd, and then at end of cycle decloak and warp.

Don't really want to hang about the gate long otherwise you'll get decloaked if there is someone there, nor do you want to be cloaked in a non cloak warper without the mwd running because you'll barely have moved from where you were seen.





Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#18 - 2014-03-20 21:43:57 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
Is nobody aware that covops haulers can't be cargo scanned? Warping cloaked really isn't difficult and using docking and instaundock bookmarks really isn't that hard.


I have lost an align fitted covops to insta lock, whilst attempting to warp to an insta. In that particular case a blockade runner would also have exploded, where a proteus would have docked.

Leokokim
New Order Outreach Division
CODE.
#19 - 2014-03-20 23:25:42 UTC
One of the best ways to transport shiny stuff (not only trough highsec) are T3s.

I'd use a nanoed, stabbed, nullified cloaky buffer tengu like e.g. this:
Quote:
[Tengu, Travel]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Warp Core Stabilizer II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier


But make sure you watch out and fly active.

And don't fly them with negative sec status and lose it to faction police in jita like ... uhm ... a friend of mine did.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#20 - 2014-03-20 23:31:59 UTC

The most risk free method is....

Red Frog.

Setup a contract to your destination. Set the collateral above the cost of your BPO, and let someone else take all the risks for only a few million isk.


Second Best option is a covert ship. Covert t3's are nice because they have solid tanks. Covert Ops are nice because they align fast and warp fast.

Good luck with your move.
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