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Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#1 - 2014-03-12 11:38:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Alica Wildfire
After a pause to being a pod pilot and caring about family and clan issues, first thing I see is the destruction of my Rifter.

"What is this ****? Why have you changed the construction of the Rifter? Where's the tracking bonus?", I demanded shortly after my return to my workplace. "I was just two years gone and everything I believed in is in turmoil. The whole lowsec is in the grasping hand of the Slavers, my Hurricane vomited it's modules, my Firetail is worth nothing on the market anymore, the Amarr are laughing at us. Everybody got a technological boost and you think to switch the tracking device against more falloff will help?"

I shot him. "Who was that idiot?", I demanded. "He was from the authorities. Republic Fleet and that." "Call his new clone." "Miss General, that was no pod pilot. He was a mere human." I stared at the mess. "Maybe better like this. He deserved to die for this. Now anybody else explain me what happend to my blueprints?!"

"Mam, eh", a young Sebiestor technician tried to explain. "We worked on the designs during your absence for childbirth." "So?" "And this is what we have for you." "Falloff for the Rifter? Are you mad?" "To fit him better into his role, Mam." "Role? The laughing stock of the fleet or what?" "No, Mam, the tackler-brawler you loved so…" "What?! What the **** is this?! The Amarrian lasers build up their main damage between 3 and 6 km. This is where the Rifter must not be flown. Didn't I teach you flying the Rifter?" "Yes, Mam." "And with the falloff you come to which range?" "Around 5 kilometers from the target, Mam." "In the death zone of Amarrian lasers. That's just terrific. Who had that idea?" The young Sebiestor was pointing to the guy with his brain to the wall. I shot another time. "So maybe we can safe this fuckup. Try to fit some artillerys on it." "Mam, there's not enough grid for three artillery, a thruster and a long point. And the long point sucks away all the energy in a few seconds."

I stared at it. "Okay. Forget it. Make an official announcement that I'm personally taking back any Rifter from the market for the price of it's minerals. I didn't do this fuckup, but I will try to safe what is left from Minmatar. Make an official announcement. I buy all Rifters for their mineral value from market. Any amounts. And I will replace it with Slashers. The Slasher is working?"

The Sebiestor was a bit ashamed. "It has no grid but it's a fine vessel. We got some additional slots in it." "Okay. Make it so. Are there any ships left for Minmatar that actually work?" "The Breacher?", a young Vherokior said. A boy from the tribes, that I freed from the shackles a few years ago. "You are kidding? That's ******* missiles. We Minmatar don't use Missiles." "We must, Mam. There's not much left. The Hurricane… we can't fit it anymore. It's useless." I stared at him. "Still we have the Cyclone. That's a trusty ship." "Mam", the young Sebiestor said with a low voice. "That's a missile boat now." "A MISSILE BOAT! WHAT IN HELL ARE YOU DOING TO MY SHIPS?!"

I had to sit down. "Spiced wine. I need spiced wine. With Sebiestor tears in it." I got a mug of it and took a long swallow. "What else is left of our fleet." "Mam, good news. The Vigil got it's second launcher." "Fine. I demanded it from Republic Fleet four years ago. Finally they delivered. What else?" My team was looking at each other. "The Burst and the Scythe, Mam?", the voice was very thin. "You mean the Fleet Issues?" "No, mam." "That are ******* mining vessels. No sane Minmatar is setting foot in one of these." "They got shield repair upgrades. And and and we finally fixed the Reaper." "Does it stand a chance against the damn Velator." Silence. "Okay. So what do you have for plans for my Rifter? Show me. Let's safe the day."

The Sebiestor took a step forward and lay a notepad with a plan on my desk. "This here will safe the Republic." "Let's see. Ah! You stripped the Rifer of it's useless bonus modules and put an Energy Transfer bonus into it and", I studied the plan, "great! The long missed remote tracking bonus. That's an awesome idea. We do that. Maybe it's worth something after that. Can only get better from this point. Dismissed."

I drank my spiced wine until I slipped from my chair and fell unconscious under the table.

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-12 11:57:18 UTC
Well if you don't want to use a Breacher, I guess I can use them instead. Or a Slasher. In fact, I might start adopting the Rifter with the planned changes just to chuckle at probably being better in its use than most Matari who seem more adopt weeping about it than actually using it.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-03-12 12:13:27 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Well if you don't want to use a Breacher, I guess I can use them instead. Or a Slasher. In fact, I might start adopting the Rifter with the planned changes just to chuckle at probably being better in its use than most Matari who seem more adopt weeping about it than actually using it.


The OP is satire Veik.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-03-12 12:28:18 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Well if you don't want to use a Breacher, I guess I can use them instead. Or a Slasher. In fact, I might start adopting the Rifter with the planned changes just to chuckle at probably being better in its use than most Matari who seem more adopt weeping about it than actually using it.


The OP is satire Veik.


Seems written like standard pattern Matari complaints regarding the status of RF third-party hulls to me. Even when, I find, those complaints are unwarranted.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#5 - 2014-03-12 12:47:36 UTC
RIFTER HAS FALLOFF

SQUIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#6 - 2014-03-12 12:48:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Alica Wildfire
In fact I fully understand what the Republic Fleet tried to do.

They improved the Slasher that much that it now competes with the Rifter. And to safe the trusty hull from being absolete they tried to change it's role.

As an engineer I understand that. But it's like madness, how it is done.

I have been sitting in the trusty Rifter a lot more than most pilots in the history of New Eden I guess. I loved that vessel. And I know of it's weaknesses and strengths. Just yesterday I was fighting several duels, where I respected the wish of my opponents not to destroy their ships. Which I find hilarious, but they were young pilots, I'm a veteran so it's their call. I have destroyed enough ships to let it go. Don't need any more prove on my killboard.

I'm a bit rusty now with my skills, but I know that ship.

There is some problem with this design. First of all you can only survive in a Rifter if you keep away from the killing zone of a laser. And the primary historic task for the Rifter is to counter the Slavers vessels. It's a bad idea to fit shield tanks against Slavers, either from the ability to easily punch through our shields and try to exploit the main weakness of lasers means bad tracking. For this you have to keep your signature small -no shield extenders- and keep away from the optimal damage range of lasers, which is somewhere around four kilometers.

You might try to get them from longer range. But while we Minmatar have really problem to deal serious damage with our projectile weapons on twenty kilometers, the Amarr have no problem doing that. They never had. And to try to fight it out on that range is certain death for a Minmatar ship, especially if tanked shield.

If you try to do, you need a long point on your vessel, which will have problems to run through. Okay, it's all possible. Minmatar spirit will always prevail. But… I'm just saying. The idea lacks a bit of finesse.

If you try to do the same with the Slasher what you were able to do with the Rifter, you fail on the working tank. You can't get a good armor tank on the Slasher. You can certainly try but it will be much worse than on a Rifter.

If I want a vessel that is punching out maximal damage on range, I would always chose the Breacher before a Rifter now. So the role the Republic Fleet has assigned to my vessel isn't helping much. The tracking bonus was essential to infighting. You can't replace it.

And I wonder what happened to my militia. Electus Matari disbanded, the systems are all in Amarrian hands. Yeah, I understand the change to the Rifter, but it's now not the same vessel anymore. It only bears the famous name. That's all. And I wondered, if there are traitors in the ranks of the Republic Fleet. Who what to give us Matari the last stab into the back for the big Reclaiming of our space.

There are dark times ahead. I just hope some tribe will rise and start an assault. Like they did a few years ago. Slave trading has risen in Matar space. Back in my times slaves were not available on the local markets. This changed. I was away for two years and everything is new.

I feel alienated. Where is Electus Matari? Where is Ushra Khan? Only thing I see it patrolling Amarrians in our hisec, killing off Minmatar haulers. All I see are pirates that started an extortion racket about Custom Office in whole Minmatar space. An investment that could be easily nullified. But nobody does.

I visited the Minmatar Militia board, where the kills used to be tracked in the war. It was not available anymore on neocom. I visited the Amarrian Militia board and it was almost unused. With just a couple of destroyed Minmatar fighters a week, where have been hundreds before.

What happened to my people? It's not an accusation. I am just worried. I'm just asking. What the **** happened here?

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#7 - 2014-03-12 13:04:20 UTC
Oh great! An opportunity for me to witter about Minmatar frigates and drugs, my favourite things...

The Rifter is one of the most sublime and versatile pieces of machinery ever devised and I'm looking forward to putting this new configuration through its paces!

I'm pondering which booster combination to take with it - previously I'd take a shot of Drop to get the most out of the inherent tracking, with a shot of Exile to compliment my SAAR. Drop would still compliment the autocannons and help the artillery spin a little quicker on my long-range config, but maybe a dash of Sooth to maximize on the inherent falloff would be better. I'm sure I'll have a wonderful time finding out Blink

Slasher is a ship that I'm really well suited to, yet I don't fly it as much as the Rifter. That's aesthetics for you!
I prefer the light-armour config with a range-disrupting TD at scram-range. It's a bit too fragile for my liking to take it in close and personal.
Again, Drop and Exile is the cocktail of choice.

Breacher - ah, I love this ship. I even have a vest-top with "Breacher Babe" across the chest (it's a great ice-breaker).
Rokkits, MASB and lots of speed. Blue Pill to squeeze the MASB, Crash to give your rokkits more, um, crash!

The Republic don't do many things right, but I can't fault them for designing these ships that make up my stable.

And finally, I couldn't make a post without mentioning...

Katanga Caravan manufactures, sells and delivers all of the booster products mentioned in Synth and Standard variants, ideal for all capsuleers fighting in the CEWPA warzones and trade-hub duelists. Contact me for details.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#8 - 2014-03-12 13:08:24 UTC
Decent rifter pilots have known to fight in deep falloff for a long, long time, vs most other frigs. You close orbit vs Amarrian stuffs, and of course, cruisers and up.

Now we're better at no 1, no worse at no 2 (you wont be going THAT fast, and autos still track great) and you have both speed and a web to help vs anything which may, for whatever reason, try tracking games on you.

It is a win/win.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-03-12 13:10:02 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

Seems written like standard pattern Matari complaints regarding the status of RF third-party hulls to me. Even when, I find, those complaints are unwarranted.


No, you are being trolled. Pretty much everyone, Matari or not, is happy with the changes to the Rifter.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#10 - 2014-03-12 13:14:25 UTC
Yay! Drugs! Do you deliver a 'first taste' packet for the interested client? I'm at the moment sitting at Rens, trying to get the wreckage of my stuff streamlined again, after my old corporation collapsed during my absence. RIP Federal Investigation Agency.

To fly Minmatar ships on drugs must be an awesome experience and now that I'm not pregnant anymore, which was one of the reasons why I dropped service for starters, I'm interested to catch up with all the fun that I missed. Yeah, capsuleers can get pregnant. But in my experience they usually get podded before they can give live to their child.

And after the second unwilling abortion through Amarrian hands I resigned for a vacation, to give birth to my child. Which was a lot less painful than getting shredded by lasers, though.

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#11 - 2014-03-12 13:15:08 UTC
Alica Wildfire wrote:

What happened to my people? It's not an accusation. I am just worried. I'm just asking. What the **** happened here?


Just premonitions of the Republic's inevitable downfall. After Shakor's bachannalian warmongering which knows no limits, what else is to expect other than a harsh hangover?

Yes, yes, you'll say, he's an Angel boogeyman and is thus just spreading some kind of anti-Republican propaganda... but, you said it yourself, there is a problem. If you choose to ignore it, even better for us.

So go right ahead. We can always use new people leaving the wreck that the Republic is.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-03-12 13:15:11 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

Seems written like standard pattern Matari complaints regarding the status of RF third-party hulls to me. Even when, I find, those complaints are unwarranted.


No, you are being trolled. Pretty much everyone, Matari or not, is happy with the changes to the Rifter.


You forget that I am a tube-born Deteis where humour and meta-context was not deemed efficient in my genetic allocation quotas.


Kurilaivonen|Concern
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#13 - 2014-03-12 13:17:43 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

Seems written like standard pattern Matari complaints regarding the status of RF third-party hulls to me. Even when, I find, those complaints are unwarranted.


No, you are being trolled. Pretty much everyone, Matari or not, is happy with the changes to the Rifter.


You forget that I am a tube-born Deteis where humour and meta-context was not deemed efficient in my genetic allocation quotas.




I'm pretty sure no one has forgotten that, no.

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-03-12 13:27:06 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

Seems written like standard pattern Matari complaints regarding the status of RF third-party hulls to me. Even when, I find, those complaints are unwarranted.


No, you are being trolled. Pretty much everyone, Matari or not, is happy with the changes to the Rifter.


You forget that I am a tube-born Deteis where humour and meta-context was not deemed efficient in my genetic allocation quotas.




I'm pretty sure no one has forgotten that, no.


Good. Because I'm not sure I will ever grasp this concept of... "trolling" for humorous or comedic effect that so many here and elsewhere seem so fond of.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#15 - 2014-03-12 13:59:24 UTC
Alica Wildfire wrote:
Yay! Drugs! Do you deliver a 'first taste' packet for the interested client? I'm at the moment sitting at Rens, trying to get the wreckage of my stuff streamlined again, after my old corporation collapsed during my absence. RIP Federal Investigation Agency.

To fly Minmatar ships on drugs must be an awesome experience and now that I'm not pregnant anymore, which was one of the reasons why I dropped service for starters, I'm interested to catch up with all the fun that I missed. Yeah, capsuleers can get pregnant. But in my experience they usually get podded before they can give live to their child.

And after the second unwilling abortion through Amarrian hands I resigned for a vacation, to give birth to my child. Which was a lot less painful than getting shredded by lasers, though.


Of course, a free hit for first-time customers is a tradition as old as the drug-trade itself.

All I ask is for a little patience in sorting an order out for you - I'm currently on leave in the Wildlands but I'll be returning to our caravanserai in the backwaters of the Republic next week.

And yes, flying those ships on drugs is a rush like no other Big smile

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master
Skye Nico
#16 - 2014-03-12 15:43:44 UTC
Novel idea: if you don't like changes to the ships you fly . . . fly other ships.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#17 - 2014-03-12 16:56:52 UTC
Now, now there's no reason to be mean and petty towards Pilot Wildfire. She's always been one of my favorite posters and I wondered what happened to her. If I'd been gone for a couple of years and returned to find as many changes I'd be upset and confused as well.

Welcome back to space, Sister. Good luck in getting up to speed with all the changes. Give me a call sometime and we can have a drink and chat about what's new.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Skye Nico
#18 - 2014-03-12 17:07:15 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Now, now there's no reason to be mean and petty towards Pilot Wildfire. She's always been one of my favorite posters and I wondered what happened to her. If I'd been gone for a couple of years and returned to find as many changes I'd be upset and confused as well.

Welcome back to space, Sister. Good luck in getting up to speed with all the changes. Give me a call sometime and we can have a drink and chat about what's new.


Were you referring to me? I hardly think suggesting that someone find new ships to fly could be considered petty or mean.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#19 - 2014-03-12 17:30:00 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

Good. Because I'm not sure I will ever grasp this concept of... "trolling" for humorous or comedic effect that so many here and elsewhere seem so fond of.


Keywords to note there. She's a troll, just not a funny one.

Katrina Oniseki
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-03-12 17:56:40 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

Good. Because I'm not sure I will ever grasp this concept of... "trolling" for humorous or comedic effect that so many here and elsewhere seem so fond of.


Keywords to note there. She's a troll, just not a funny one.


Well, I'm sure some of the Matari here had a chuckle at my expense due to Ms. Wildfire's satire. Although I'm mature enough not to take the imagined wounds to my pride too seriously, nor, to level allegations of, "trolling", due to my present inability to grasp Matari wit or humour.

A handicap, I sometimes feel in being too serious and focused on my duties and tasks.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
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