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Just an FYI on Christmas

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Ayx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-12-12 17:58:47 UTC
The 'x days' until Christmas actually begins on Christmas day, not before. Seems CCP has fallen for the same 'get it done early so you can get it over with' mentality as with all other big corporations.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#2 - 2013-12-12 18:00:52 UTC
Are you mixing up the 12 days of xmas (which count the days until the visitation of the wise men) with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Lads
Batelle
Filthy Peasants
#3 - 2013-12-12 18:03:26 UTC
yup, Christmas day to Epiphany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Days_of_Christmas

What has CCP done/said that's prompted this?

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#4 - 2013-12-12 18:06:34 UTC
Batelle wrote:
yup, Christmas day to Epiphany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Days_of_Christmas

What has CCP done/said that's prompted this?



Yule lads advent calendar <------ seems to be confusing people
Na Und
Galactronics
#5 - 2013-12-12 18:13:18 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Batelle wrote:
yup, Christmas day to Epiphany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Days_of_Christmas

What has CCP done/said that's prompted this?



Yule lads advent calendar <------ seems to be confusing people


It confused me, and I like to think that I'm not easily confused. I just wanted to confirm how to redeem any gifts.

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Tweek Etimua
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-12 18:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweek Etimua
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#7 - 2013-12-12 19:00:43 UTC
^ Avatar looks like a Yule Lad. Well done!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2013-12-12 19:00:51 UTC
Just an FYI on Christmas traditions: they're not universal. So…
Rhivre wrote:
Are you mixing up the 12 days of xmas (which count the days until the visitation of the wise men) with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Lads
…this.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-12-12 19:57:34 UTC
... now accepting all donations of carbon, charon and coal. Merry Yuletide Cool

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CCP Doom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2013-12-12 20:44:55 UTC

In Iceland Christmas is celebrated with presents and dinner on the evening of December 24, the same as the rest of the Nordics and other European countries.

Christmas Day itself is a day of recovery and for family and friends Smile

SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
#11 - 2013-12-12 20:53:21 UTC
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Additionally, the Yule Lads are often depicted with the Yule Cat, a beast that, according to folklore, eats children who don't receive new clothes for Christmas.



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Casanunda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-12-12 21:42:44 UTC
Ayx Shewma wrote:
The 'x days' until Christmas actually begins on Christmas day, not before. Seems CCP has fallen for the same 'get it done early so you can get it over with' mentality as with all other big corporations.

Until is the operative word, if it began on Christmas day, then the word until wouldn't have been used.

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#13 - 2013-12-12 21:44:53 UTC
The festival known as Christmas in English is called Jul/Jól/Joulu in the Nordic countries (but then we've only been considered Christian for the about last 1000 years).

Even the various Christian denominations that celebrate it use that name (there's some smaller groups of Christians that refuse to celebrate it at all since there's no solid foundation for it in the good book and they consider it a pure pagan and/or commercial enterprise).

As for the exact date it seems that Santa (or his local cultural avatar) takes care of the Nordics first (possibly because we're close neighbours). So he visits us on the eve of the 24:th, then he hits the road and sorts out the rest of the world on the 25:th.

People more into a scientific explanation could argue that all festivals at that time of year (including new years) should be centred on winter solstice. And that all the different dates are down to errors in calculating a proper calender.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Seven Koskanaiken
Guerillas in the Mist
Outlanders United
#14 - 2013-12-12 21:55:05 UTC
What are we getting for Imbolc?
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#15 - 2013-12-12 22:35:23 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
What are we getting for Imbolc?


An Imbolc cord?
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-12-12 23:23:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Lors Dornick wrote:
Even the various Christian denominations that celebrate it use that name (there's some smaller groups of Christians that refuse to celebrate it at all since there's no solid foundation for it in the good book and they consider it a pure pagan and/or commercial enterprise).

The point of Christmas is to keep you from celebrating Epiphany because putting more emphasis on Epiphany might give people dangerous ideas... the biblical account ("this is my beloved son...") sounds too much like an adoption story for comfort.

Christmas emphasizes Jesus' divine sonship from birth and thus acts as a counterweight to Epiphany. Additionally,
many Eastern Churches celebrate Christmas and Epiphany on the same day (which ensures that Christmas gets the spotlight) while the Western Churches chose to reinterpret Epiphany to bring it more in line with Christmas (the epiphany at Jesus' baptism is pushed into the background or omitted entirely, instead an epiphany to the wise men is construed and celebrated).

Christmas is the price you pay for getting the idea of a pre-existent son of God into people's heads.

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#17 - 2013-12-12 23:38:36 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
Even the various Christian denominations that celebrate it use that name (there's some smaller groups of Christians that refuse to celebrate it at all since there's no solid foundation for it in the good book and they consider it a pure pagan and/or commercial enterprise).

The point of Christmas is to keep you from celebrating Epiphany because putting more emphasis on Epiphany might give people dangerous ideas... the biblical account ("this is my beloved son...") sounds too much like an adoption story for comfort.

Christmas emphasizes Jesus' divine sonship from birth and thus acts as a counterweight to Epiphany. Additionally,
many Eastern Churches celebrate Christmas and Epiphany on the same day (which ensures that Christmas gets the spotlight) while the Western Churches chose to reinterpret Epiphany to bring it more in line with Christmas (the epiphany at Jesus' baptism is pushed into the background or omitted entirely, instead an epiphany to the wise men is construed and celebrated).

Christmas is the price you pay for getting the idea of a pre-existent son of God into people's heads.

There's also the slight cynical idea that since there's wasn't any obvious date to celebrate the birth of Christ the church of that time (300 AD ish) decided that putting it at the same time as several pagan festivals was a good idea.

They didn't have to tell people to stop having a party, they just tweaked the reason.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#18 - 2013-12-13 00:00:37 UTC
So... yeah...

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2013-12-13 00:28:03 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
There's also the slight cynical idea that since there's wasn't any obvious date to celebrate the birth of Christ the church of that time (300 AD ish) decided that putting it at the same time as several pagan festivals was a good idea.

They didn't have to tell people to stop having a party, they just tweaked the reason.

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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
#20 - 2013-12-13 00:39:53 UTC
Wonder if it is possible to recieve the yule lad gifts retroactively for a week back or so?

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