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Eve needs new space with a twist....I present Eve Deepspace Regions

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JimmySquirts
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-11-03 01:32:18 UTC
No, it's not more wormholes or different ways to get to wormholes...

Nor is it more space connecting what we have now to "unreachable" jovian space.

Nope nothing like that....

We need new space with qualitatively different rules for exploration and development and potential for rewards.

What new rules you might ask?

1) No outposts can be constructed.

2) No NPC stations

3) No jump bridges

4) No sovereignty

5) No readily available ice products.

6 ) No anchorable bubbles


Just space....rich and full of the most bountiful set of resources in New Eden. Nowhere near the jump freighter-able, outpost infested, jump bridge traversed space we now have to deal with in balancing null sec. The best ores, rats, moon goo, and anomalies naturally occurring.....ready to be exploited by true adventurers with a willingness to work and meet the logistical challenge that truly existing in the deepest, darkness of space.

These regions would be called "Deepspace" regions, hidden from human eyes for the ages but available now for exploration by the few, the chosen, the courageous!
babymuncho
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-11-03 01:33:23 UTC
first
SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-03 01:37:49 UTC
I read your whole post.

my answer still doesn't change.

get into wormholes, its the new endgame.

I like your concept though.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#4 - 2011-11-03 01:42:20 UTC
So its just like WH but not? idgi



CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

JimmySquirts
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-03 01:45:03 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
I read your whole post.

my answer still doesn't change.

get into wormholes, its the new endgame.

I like your concept though.


I've actually done two 6 month tours of duty in wormholes. It's devolved into strange little tactical games of collapse my wormhole before the calvary can get there. Don't get me wrong, wormholes can be fun, but it's not become the true bastion for exploration and adventure. Logistics are only marginally more difficult than in regular null sec.

I'm an old school player. I basked in the sense of accomplishment hauling gneiss from one point in quierious ten jumps to a refinery before dreadnoughts and jump drives were a twinkle in anyone's eyes.

Eve Deepspace Regions is just a game concept that is the natural extension of that idea.
Amro One
One.
#6 - 2011-11-03 01:46:38 UTC
I did not know bots can make post.

Seems like a mining bot.
JimmySquirts
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-11-03 01:58:36 UTC
I don't really like bots. Miners, bot or not, would have a difficult task in front of them in my conceptualization of Eve Deepspace Regions.
ASadOldGit
School of Applied Knowledge
#8 - 2011-11-03 02:00:42 UTC
I do like the idea of "wilder" untamed systems, perhaps binary or trinary systems, or even right smack in the middle of a stellar nursary, with proto-stars forming around you.
Perhaps even something with no warp-to points, no planets or moons, just a big 200-300 AU sphere of anoms you have to scan down - something you can truly get lost in.Blink

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2011-11-03 02:01:28 UTC
I read that post and something moved.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Klask Atriund
Kindred Rising
#10 - 2011-11-03 02:04:21 UTC
ASadOldGit wrote:
I do like the idea of "wilder" untamed systems, perhaps binary or trinary systems, or even right smack in the middle of a stellar nursary, with proto-stars forming around you.
Perhaps even something with no warp-to points, no planets or moons, just a big 200-300 AU sphere of anoms you have to scan down - something you can truly get lost in.Blink



I think this really is the next step for 'space' in EVE. Where all of the 'space' is actually used.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#11 - 2011-11-03 02:06:18 UTC
ASadOldGit wrote:
I do like the idea of "wilder" untamed systems, perhaps binary or trinary systems, or even right smack in the middle of a stellar nursary, with proto-stars forming around you.
Perhaps even something with no warp-to points, no planets or moons, just a big 200-300 AU sphere of anoms you have to scan down - something you can truly get lost in.Blink



This is actually something that I've been thinking of as well. Having in a sense just a massive plot of space where there are no celestials to warp to. You have to rely on scanning to find objects, anomalies, sigs, etc in order to move. Like stepping stones.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

JimmySquirts
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-11-03 02:06:32 UTC
ASadOldGit wrote:
I do like the idea of "wilder" untamed systems, perhaps binary or trinary systems, or even right smack in the middle of a stellar nursary, with proto-stars forming around you.
Perhaps even something with no warp-to points, no planets or moons, just a big 200-300 AU sphere of anoms you have to scan down - something you can truly get lost in.Blink



That is inline with the "vision" I have. Eve that is varied, wild, and untamed. And definitely "no jump drives allowed."
Average Joseph
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-11-03 02:07:03 UTC
How about "Virtual Space" based on captured Sleeper technology? It offers the possibility of reliable arena-style matches, and could allow for rulesets that are "gameplay-friendly" rather than "sandbox-friendly" or dictated by the game fiction. Then all the people playing EVE for "the wrong reasons" can have their own place and leave the rest of New Eden to the wolves.
JimmySquirts
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-11-03 02:13:39 UTC
Also, think of no "big ships" for players beyond the battleship, but that is not to say that Eve Deepspace regions would be devoid of those. The npcs out to kill players would have the biggest and baddest ships. Imagine if the game engine would allow them to simulate the act of sensing when a player encampment (read pos) goes up and then the npc mobilizes al la incursions to interdict the player presence. I want Deepspace to exist in an "organic" sense that is hostile to players!! It senses where you are at and complicates your life.
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#15 - 2011-11-03 02:15:29 UTC
ASadOldGit wrote:
I do like the idea of "wilder" untamed systems, perhaps binary or trinary systems, or even right smack in the middle of a stellar nursary, with proto-stars forming around you.
Perhaps even something with no warp-to points, no planets or moons, just a big 200-300 AU sphere of anoms you have to scan down - something you can truly get lost in.Blink



I like this idea

The pie is a tautology

LacLongQuan
Jitrawa Incorporated
#16 - 2011-11-03 02:33:01 UTC
JimmySquirts wrote:

6 ) No anchorable bubbles

carebears???
Caldari Acolyte
Shark Enterprises
#17 - 2011-11-03 03:03:02 UTC
JimmySquirts wrote:
No, it's not more wormholes or different ways to get to wormholes...

Nor is it more space connecting what we have now to "unreachable" jovian space.

Nope nothing like that....

We need new space with qualitatively different rules for exploration and development and potential for rewards.

What new rules you might ask?

1) No outposts can be constructed.

2) No NPC stations

3) No jump bridges

4) No sovereignty

5) No readily available ice products.

6 ) No anchorable bubbles


Just space....rich and full of the most bountiful set of resources in New Eden. Nowhere near the jump freighter-able, outpost infested, jump bridge traversed space we now have to deal with in balancing null sec. The best ores, rats, moon goo, and anomalies naturally occurring.....ready to be exploited by true adventurers with a willingness to work and meet the logistical challenge that truly existing in the deepest, darkness of space.

These regions would be called "Deepspace" regions, hidden from human eyes for the ages but available now for exploration by the few, the chosen, the courageous!


What your proposing sounds like Extra-Galactic Space since Eve is a Galaxy in its own right, which is an interesting concept. Maybe Globular Clusters which can only be accessed by special portals. These portals could only be scanned down by max skilled probers. The easter eggs in these Globular Clusters would have to be something special like Jovian Technologies or something close to it.
Disfocate
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-11-03 03:19:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Disfocate
I really like this idea. As to no bubbles, i think the purpose behind that is the space isn't meant to be held by anyone.

Only thing i would add, No bounties on those super rats. They are outside of concord's area of influence, so why should they care enough to PAY you to pop those guys? Make the rewards in the drops/salvage..like sleepers. you don't get back with the loot, you don't get paid. simple as that.
ASadOldGit
School of Applied Knowledge
#19 - 2011-11-03 03:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ASadOldGit
Caldari Acolyte wrote:

What your proposing sounds like Extra-Galactic Space since Eve is a Galaxy in its own right, which is an interesting concept. Maybe Globular Clusters which can only be accessed by special portals. These portals could only be scanned down by max skilled probers. The easter eggs in these Globular Clusters would have to be something special like Jovian Technologies or something close to it.


Although I'm out of touch with the lore of New Eden, I get the impression EVE could only be a tiny fraction of a galaxy.
New Eden is only a few dozen light years across, yet even a small galaxy is a good 50,000 LY's across.

Also, a globular cluster would be a bit too big to just jump in to, considering they could have a good 100,000 stars in them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globular_cluster) - that's more stars than the whole of k-space. Admittedly, the view would be stunning, if the artists could render them properly. Smile

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Caldari Acolyte
Shark Enterprises
#20 - 2011-11-03 03:46:38 UTC
ASadOldGit wrote:
Caldari Acolyte wrote:

What your proposing sounds like Extra-Galactic Space since Eve is a Galaxy in its own right, which is an interesting concept. Maybe Globular Clusters which can only be accessed by special portals. These portals could only be scanned down by max skilled probers. The easter eggs in these Globular Clusters would have to be something special like Jovian Technologies or something close to it.


Although I'm out of touch with the lore of New Eden, I get the impression EVE could only be a tiny fraction of a galaxy.
New Eden is only a few dozen light years across, yet even a small galaxy is a good 50,000 LY's across.

Also, a globular cluster would be a bit too big to just jump in to, considering they could have a good 100,000 stars in them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globular_cluster) - that's more stars than the whole of k-space. Admittedly, the view would be stunning, if the artists could render them properly. Smile


Yes, well, the Eve Galaxy is a vastly scaled down version of the real thing. In regards to navigating in truely uncharted space, a prober could drop beacons as a reference as he maps out the uncharted space, New profession maybe ,Stellar Cartographer?
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